Thread: US Presidential Campaign 2008

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Running scared, IMO.

Yep very much like many reptiles do when scared shiteless. Puff up real big and hope your opponent runs away.

I don't think a Hillary/Obama ticket will work, no matter who is VP.
It's common knowledge they hate each other.

Obama/Edwards would be interesting.

Obama/Edwards/Hillary- all bluddy lawyers!

Originally Posted by sabang

Obama/Edwards/Hillary- all bluddy lawyers!

Yes. Most of the Senate and I presume a large portion of Congress are lawyers.

As for the elections, we'll have to wait and see. FL and Michigan is becoming another reason for me to believe, that this election, as is the country, is a little messed up.

Originally Posted by Norton

the arrogant attitude the Clinton's have as the defacto winners is an indication of how out of touch they are with the electorate

And the electorate in this case are hyper-sensitive party Democrats, who would be the first to stampede at the whiff of dictatorial rhetoric.

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

And the electorate in this case are hyper-sensitive party Democrats, who would be the first to stampede at the whiff of dictatorial rhetoric.

The war drums can already be heard in the distance. Some senior Dems saying if the Super delegates don't go with the majority vote they will quit the party.

obama say's today that the hrc/obama ticket is out of the question and that he is currently in the lead so who is hilary to offer him the VP position !!!!

McCain will win.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

McCain will win.

It will be interesting to once again watch the Democratic Party self destruct, this time over this fight on the floor of the Convention. It puts all the power in the hands of these "super delegates" who will be jockeying for whatever they can get in their own self interests and of their constituencies.

Looks like a



waiting to happen.

^ Yep. It just depends on how many voters will go to the polls, I think. If only McCain said "OK, enough is enough, start troop withdrawals and let Iraq fend for itself" he'd get way more broad-spectrum support. IMO, Hilde and Bambi are like American Idol starlets that will just be manipulated if they win. Sad day. Build a bunker now and put your funds in the Bahamas.

The super delegates would be mad to go against the popular vote. Obama wins. Who will be his vice president is the question now.

^Agreed. It would spell ruin for the dems.

^ agreed, people seem to be choosing because of color and gender instead of with the concept of who would make the best prez.

I pesonally dont like either dem. canidate and really only liked ron paul as far as the rep. go !!!!

Hilary better win blue-collar Pennsylvania, like she did Ohio now that Obama's won yet again.

Obama coasts to victory in Miss. primary


By DAVID ESPO and CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writers 21 minutes ago

JACKSON, Miss. - Barack Obama coasted to victory in Mississippi's Democratic primary Tuesday, latest in a string of racially polarized presidential contests across the Deep South and a final tune-up before next month's high-stakes race with Hillary Rodham Clinton in Pennsylvania.

"We've been very measured in terms of how we talk about Senator Clinton," he said. "I've been careful to say that I think Senator Clinton is a capable person and that should she win the nomination, obviously, I would support her. I'm not sure we've been getting that same approach from the Clinton campaign," he said in on CNN.

Obama coasts to victory in Miss. primary - Yahoo! News

He also won more delegates in Texas than Clinton after winning the Texan caucus.

can someone explain to me the difference between caucus and a primary and why Texas has both and not one or the other?

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Obama isn't a light weight he reminds me of another man with charisma Bill Clinton. If America could elect a black president it would be a challenge to the world wide anti -Americanism which, whether Americans choose to ignore it or not, has had a huge impact on both Americas soft and hard power.

Agreed^ but Geraldine Ferraro thinks otherwise:

Ferraro Remarks on Obama Decried

WASHINGTON (AP) — The first female vice presidential candidate and a fundraiser for Hillary Rodham Clinton suggested Democrat Barack Obama only achieved his status in the presidential campaign because he's black. The Obama campaign called on Clinton Tuesday to denounce the comments.

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," Geraldine Ferraro told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Calif., in an interview published last Friday. "And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

That's her opinion. And how many have been in a political situation because they were a WASP, or otherwise.

He has many qualities that appeal to the masses: articulate, good orator, positive message, young, good looking, and his policies do have appeal.

Ferraro was a horrible choice for VP.

Race will be injected more over the next 8 months.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

He also won more delegates in Texas than Clinton after winning the Texan caucus.

can someone explain to me the difference between caucus and a primary and why Texas has both and not one or the other?

A caucus is a precinct (Congressional area?) meeting of people who argue forth their candidate and give reasons why. (But their minds are already made up beforehand.)

I believe caucuses are smaller and involve more grassroot organization.


A primary is when people go to a poll and vote on a ballot.

I believe caucuses are closed: you have to register as a (D) or an (R) to attend and vote.

A primary can be open (anybody can vote) or closed (you have to register for a party).

Texas has both. This is the called the "Texas two-step." I don't know why they have both.

Originally Posted by Milkman

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," Geraldine Ferraro told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Calif."

Ferraro was a horrible choice for VP.
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This campaign race is funnier than Comedy Central.

^Hilary publicly stated she didn't support those comments, but there may be a more sinister side to this:

I just watched Anderson Cooper 360 and they featured analysis of the Ferraro comment as well as others by "Surrogates" of Clinton and the Clinton campaign. There is speculation that the Clinton campaign is intentionally having Surrogates make these inflammatory type statements, and then having Hilary publically state she doesn't support them.

All in an effort to undermine the support for Obama, play on deep racial divides and polarize her large white vote even more against him.

Exit polls done recently confirm that her supporters are more fervent than ever. 70+% of them would never consider Obama for President. That sends a signal to the Superdelegates that if Obama wins the nomination, many of the Clinton supporters won't vote democratic, thereby ensuring a McCain win.

Very clever tactics, and very underhanded.