US Presidential Campaign 2008

**barbaro** · 06-03-2008, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by chinthee

Originally Posted by KID

a clinton/clinton ticket

Very funny, but I'll bet it would beat McCain hands down! Of course, that would be a great motive for Bill to knock off the bitch though to become Pres. again. Not sure if that's allowed.

He could be VP. I believe he could be President in the event of the Executive being unable to perform his/her duties, or dying.

But this won't happen.

**chinthee** · 06-03-2008, 09:17 AM

^Yes, I think you're right, but he couldn't then serve another term as an elected President. So, he'd have to knock her off early in the first term.

**chinthee** · 06-03-2008, 09:24 AM

Republican McCain trails Clinton and Obama: poll

1 hour, 17 minutes ago WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain trails Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in hypothetical matchups, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released on Wednesday.

Illinois Sen. Obama leads McCain by 12 percentage points -- 52 percent to 40 percent; New York Sen. Clinton leads McCain by 6 points -- 50 percent to 44 percent, the poll found.

Republican McCain trails Clinton and Obama: poll - Yahoo! News

**KID** · 06-03-2008, 09:30 AM

has a former prez ever been v.p.???-- dont think so but???

any official links about the rules??

**chinthee** · 06-03-2008, 09:33 AM

I think it is hypothetically possible. If Clinton gets the nomination and polls show her too close to McCain, I don't think it's out of the question that in order to win the Democratic party would encourage this. I think it would assure a victory for her. I know now it's not even under discussion, but let's wait....

*Keep in mind that this could just be the ultimate tactic for winning the Presidency. I don't think Bill would ever serve as VP for long. He'd probably go 6 months, then would be re-assigned as some special envoy, and she would appoint someone else. The ultimate end game winning strategy. I should be paid for this stuff.

**KID** · 06-03-2008, 09:36 AM

i think the clinton/ obama scenerio is a very real posability

**chinthee** · 06-03-2008, 09:38 AM

^Obama would be smart to take the VP position, and he doesn't seem to suffer from the same kind of foolish pride she has. It would set him up for bigger things later.

I think a more serious risk is that if this fight goes all the way to the floor of the convention, there will be so much blood letting that it may be a seriously weakened ticket.

**barbaro** · 06-03-2008, 09:41 AM

I agree with KID and CT.

Obama is young.

They are both close to each other in delegates and polls. They are basically close to McCain in the polls (although polls shift weekly and monthly).

But together, I think an HRC/Obama ticket would be hard to beat.

**KID** · 06-03-2008, 09:49 AM

concure with you both--- hilary up front and obama to keep her in check

I just dont think obama is ready and hilary is as gungho as they come but I think the partnership would appeal to the voters

**good2bhappy** · 06-03-2008, 09:54 AM

Interesting article on the BBC re' this subject

**barbaro** · 06-03-2008, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by KID

concure with you both--- hilary up front and obama to keep her in check

I just dont think obama is ready and hilary is as gungho as they come but I think the partnership would appeal to the voters

The VP plays second fiddle, and basically does nothing. The VP attends some cermonies, but stays in the background. The VP is briefed on what's going on in the world and nation to stay on top of things, but that's about it.

I think an HRC/Obama combo would be very strong.

**Boon Mee** · 07-03-2008, 02:24 AM

Bush/McCain Caption Contest:

"8 More Years!

heh...

**chinthee** · 09-03-2008, 01:04 PM

Obama wins in Wyoming, adds 7 delegates

By MEAD GRUVER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 46 minutes ago

CASPER, Wyo. - Sen. Barack Obama captured the Wyoming Democratic caucuses Saturday, seizing a bit of momentum in the close, hard-fought race with rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for the party's presidential nomination.

Obama has also shown strength in the Mountain West, winning Idaho, Utah, Colorado and now Wyoming. The two split Nevada, with Clinton winning the popular vote and Obama more delegates.
Obama wins in Wyoming, adds 7 delegates - Yahoo! News

**Norton** · 09-03-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

Obama wins in Wyoming, adds 7 delegates

All delegates are important at this point and a win is a win but Wyoming will go nearly 100% Republican in the Presidential race.

**chinthee** · 09-03-2008, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by chinthee

Obama wins in Wyoming, adds 7 delegates

All delegates are important at this point and a win is a win but Wyoming will go nearly 100% Republican in the Presidential race.

Yes, I think that's also true for most of the Rocky Mountain states. The issue here is Obama winning the Democratic nomination. He will have his work cut out for him winning the general election in the Rockies, but then, again, the Rockies don't really matter that much because not much population there.

**Jet Gorgon** · 09-03-2008, 10:42 PM

True. Cowboys and cowgirls always vote Republican, coz none of them ever expect a handout.

**barbaro** · 10-03-2008, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

True. Cowboys and cowgirls always vote Republican, coz none of them ever expect a handout.

What is your definition of a "handout."

Is the Boeing corporation included?

**Jet Gorgon** · 10-03-2008, 01:24 AM

^ Um, no. Why are you picking on Boeing? Boeing is based in Seattle, technically not cowboy country. If you are noting that Boeing gets govt help, hey, let's take a look at all the handouts Airbus has been getting from the EU. Boeing is a key employer that not only builds passenger planes but defense aircraft for the US armed forces. Under US law, military equipment cannot be purchased from foreign sources, so Boeing makes alot of money from defense contracts.

**Hootad Binky** · 10-03-2008, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Under US law, military equipment cannot be purchased from foreign sources, so Boeing makes alot of money from defense contracts.

Is that right?

Airbus CEO rejects US controversy over tanker contract

1 day ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The boss of Airbus on Friday moved to tamp down a US controversy sparked when the Pentagon awarded a refueling tanker mega-contract to the European aviation giant, citing the growing globalization of the aerospace sector.

In a telephone interview with AFP, Chief Executive Officer Tom Enders did not rule out the planned plant in Mobile, Alabama one day manufacturing equipment other than the tankers committed to the air force and A330 cargo jets.

But Enders rejected criticism from some US lawmakers that awarding the 35-billion-dollar contract to the cross-Atlantic consortium of European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company (EADS) --of which Airbus is a subsidiary -- and Northrop Grumman instead of US manufacturer Boeing Company would mean the loss of US jobs.

"That is ridiculous," he said, indicating that EADS and Northrop Grumann "will invest roughly 600 million dollars all in all into these facilities" in the proposed plant site in Mobile, where Enders was celebrating the deal with colleagues.

AFP: Airbus CEO rejects US controversy over tanker contract

**chinthee** · 10-03-2008, 09:19 AM

The Clintons are up to new tricks:

Clintons push a Hillary/Obama ticket

By Thomas Ferraro 26 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hillary and Bill Clinton are again teaming up on Barack Obama -- this time saying the first-term U.S. lawmaker, whom they have derided as inexperienced, would be a strong running mate on a Democratic presidential ticket headed by the former first lady.

In talking up a joint ticket, the Clintons may be seeking the upper hand, attempting to put her in consideration for the top of the ticket when she so far has failed to win the votes necessary to assure that she would face Republican presidential candidate John McCain in the November election.

The maneuver may also be aimed at countering an image in voters' minds of Obama as presidential material and at helping restore an aura of inevitability as the party's nominee that Clinton had early in the campaign but lost.

"It may be the first time in history that the person who is running number two would offer the person running number one the number two position," Daschle told "Meet the Press."

Clintons push a Hillary/Obama ticket - Yahoo! News

**Norton** · 10-03-2008, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by chinthee

"It may be the first time in history that the person who is running number two would offer the person running number one the number two position,"

This is truly the most amazing part of the whole thing. Again the arrogant attitude the Clinton's have as the defacto winners is an indication of how out of touch they are with the electorate. An attitude they had from the beginning and a lesson they should have learned after the thumping they have taken. The only way Hillary can get the nomination is by manipulating the super delegate vote. If they do the Dem voters will be mighty pissed off and the general election will be lost for sure.

**chinthee** · 10-03-2008, 09:32 AM

Another quote from the article:

she needs to be careful. If this talk of him on the ticket is seen as a cynical maneuver, it could backfire and hurt her," Goldford said.

I hope her supporters wake up soon and realize what a manipulative, power hungry person she is. I think this is the one quality that these types of tricks will expose.

**GooMaiRoo** · 10-03-2008, 10:48 AM

Let me see if I've got this straight: Hillary Clinton has been running ads suggesting that Barak Obama is incapable of handling 3am 'red phone' emergencies in the White House because of his inexperience. And now she's offering him the vice presidency, where he will be one heartbeat away from answering the same red phone. Hillary's a power-crazed woman who's getting very desperate.

**Norton** · 10-03-2008, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by floorpotato

Hillary Clinton has been running ads suggesting that Barak Obama is incapable of handling 3am 'red phone' emergencies in the White House because of his inexperience.

My guess is Hillary had many 3AM calls from secret service guys watching over Bill. "Ma'am, the President is in a whorehouse and won't leave. What do you suggest we do." Hillary, "Throw some cold water on him and bring him home. Use the back door."

**Jet Gorgon** · 10-03-2008, 11:21 AM

Running scared, IMO.

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