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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    You have republicans saying they would much much rather they were facing Clinton in the election. why then, don't democrats take the longer term view and all vote Obama??
    Might be because most Dems think either can win easily over any Republican. A very bad presumption I would think. The race for the Democratic nomination will continue and the Dems will have to be careful not to self destruct by Barak and Hillary committing party suicide.

    Either way the outcome of super Tuesday comes out it looks like the Dems will be battling to the last State. Obama will have an edge here I believe. He will have won the most states even though Hillary won the big ones and he won in states he was expected to lose. At the moment he has much more money in reserve than Hillary and will be able to raise far more than her in the future. Reason, most of Barak's supporters are small contributors and Hillary's are large ones coming mostly from lobbyists who have already contributed the max allowed by law.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_dog View Post
    O Winfery is on board she really is one of the most powerful people in America.

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    ^That's not as funny as it sounds. For the lower middle class who watches that daytime TV crap, she has tremendous influence, and that's a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    You have republicans saying they would much much rather they were facing Clinton in the election.
    This is because A LOT of people really hate Hillary. We loved Bill, but that Hillary bitch can get really annoying. And she is. I'm for Obama all the way, but I'd rather vote for McCain than Hillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durianfan
    I'd rather vote for McCain than Hillary
    Hillary is a far distance behind Obama on the likability scale and given they really have no significant difference on the issues I believe this is what will tip the nomination to Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durianfan
    I'm for Obama all the way,

    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    I believe this is what will tip the nomination to Obama.
    as well as my endorsement.


    cnn analysts are saying the most notable thing to come out of super tuesday is that barak has benefited far more than expected from Edwards departure from the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    barak has benefited far more than expected from Edwards departure from the race.
    I think his wins in the states polls showed Edwards doing well are testament to this view.

    CNN just projected Obama winner in Missouri. This is a key state! Again delegates will be split fairly even.

    At the moment Hillary is slightly ahead in delegates but the popular vote is a virtual dead heat. Hillary 5.6M vs Obama 5.5M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    as well as my endorsement.
    News Flash:

    CNN has reported the Welsh have made a long awaited and very important endorsement to Sen. Obama. Their spokesman Chaingmai Noon speaking from Obama headquarters in Northern Thailand has promised to "Bring all the vast resources at my disposal to the support of a guy we Welsh think to be the nicest candidate in the race." Obama's support of same sex and interspecies marriage were key factors in the Welsh endorsement.
    Last edited by Norton; 06-02-2008 at 02:19 PM.

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    Obama has Big Mo at the mo. Hillary's goose is cooked.

    My other choice, Romney, seems to have crumbled. I don't much care for McCain, so will likely vote for Obama.

    Oprah Winfrey is a bloviating windbag addressing a generation of fat, mindless housewives sitting on their sofas eating bonbons. She's reality TV's Harlequin Romance -- on and on and on about love and diets and makeup and fashion and blah blah blah. Hardly a powerhouse outside her studio.

    Sure she's loaded, but a gnat on the political scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    ^That's not as funny as it sounds. For the lower middle class who watches that daytime TV crap, she has tremendous influence, and that's a lot of people.
    Grrr. I noted before that her fan base, which is HUGE, is angry that she is supporting a black rather than a woman. That's why she's been quiet of late. But, she carries alot of slugging power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Obama has Big Mo at the mo. Hillary's goose is cooked.

    My other choice, Romney, seems to have crumbled. I don't much care for McCain, so will likely vote for Obama.
    Me agrees that Romney will depart withing 6 weeks at the latest and McCain will be the (R) nominee.

    Oprah Winfrey is a bloviating windbag addressing a generation of fat, mindless housewives sitting on their sofas eating bonbons. She's reality TV's Harlequin Romance -- on and on and on about love and diets and makeup and fashion and blah blah blah. Hardly a powerhouse outside her studio.

    Sure she's loaded, but a gnat on the political scene.

    I agree with you, tex. I have nothing against Oprah, but she is an entertainer.

    An entertainer, rock star, or actor will never influence my vote. I think even the most uninformed Americans would not be swayed by an entertainer. Hope not at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Oprah Winfrey is a bloviating windbag addressing a generation of fat, mindless housewives sitting on their sofas eating bonbons.
    Ummm...Looks like a lot of votes for Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Me agrees that Romney will depart withing 6 weeks at the latest and McCain will be the (R) nominee.
    Agree. Looks like McCain is the Republican guy. Romney took one hell of a beating. As of now if McCain has any opposition I would say Huckabee is closer than Romney. Will McCain ask Huckabee to join him as VP? I'm guessing no but sure would go a long way to getting McCain some of the hard core Republican conservative vote he really needs in a Presidential run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Me agrees that Romney will depart withing 6 weeks at the latest and McCain will be the (R) nominee.
    Agree. Looks like McCain is the Republican guy. Romney took one hell of a beating. As of now if McCain has any opposition I would say Huckabee is closer than Romney.
    I just read that McCain's voters went to Huckabee to hurt Romney in West Virginia. (cnn.com) Intersting move.

    Will McCain ask Huckabee to join him as VP? I'm guessing no but sure would go a long way to getting McCain some of the hard core Republican conservative vote he really needs in a Presidential run.
    I don't know if McCain will pick Huckabee for VP, but you have a good point.

    I think McCain will pick a conservative that will appeal to the disgruntled conservative that loathe McCain so much.

    Huckabee got his southern Bible Belt states.

    He is third in the delegate count as of now, and I don't think he has legs.

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    it is naive to dismiss the cultural and political influence of oprah winfrey.

    yes her core demographic is middle aged women--but let's not forget that women make up more than half of the population, and by and large, they vote.

    the winfrey endorsement is particularly powerful this year because obama is running against a female candidate....the endorsement gives women with feminist inclinations "permission" to vote against one of their own. many of those women who have negative feelings against clinton (for whatever reason) now won't feel guilty about not voting for her.

    IMO oprah winfrey is definitely one of the most powerful people in america...if not the world. and this opinion is not simply based on the fact that she outrageously wealthy. it is undeniable that women buy what she tells them to buy, and it's becoming quite apparent that many of them are voting like she tells them to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    I think McCain will pick a conservative that will appeal to the disgruntled conservative that loathe McCain so much.
    Agree. He needs a conservative but has to be very careful he doesn't lose the moderates as I believe he would if he picked Huckabee.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    He is third in the delegate count as of now, and I don't think he has legs.
    No he has shot his wad so to speak and has no real chance of catching McCain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    the winfrey endorsement is particularly powerful this year because obama is running against a female candidate
    This is clearly a very important issue for Obama. So far women have overwhelmingly (est. at 80% to 20%) voted for Hillary over Obama. If Oprah's influence can swing this to around 60% to 40% Obama will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    the winfrey endorsement is particularly powerful this year because obama is running against a female candidate
    This is clearly a very important issue for Obama. So far women have overwhelmingly (est. at 80% to 20%) voted for Hillary over Obama. If Opra's influence can swing this to around 60% to 40% Obama will win.
    Yeah, that'll give new meaning to the term "swing vote." Opra does seem to be on a mission for her boy. Wonder what she wants out of it? Secretary of the Treasury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    After watching the latest speeches, i have decided to endorse Obama too.


    have to say that the choices are better for the Dems than Edwards and kerry.
    Does your endorsement speak for the Black Welsh Mountain Sheep Association also?


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    I think that after watching all the bullshit on TV today that just about anyone of them would be just perfect as they all promising the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    IMO oprah winfrey is definitely one of the most powerful people in america...if not the world.
    Say no more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Say no more!
    since you took the above from the fourth paragraph of my post, i'll have to assume you agree with what came before it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Oprah Winfrey is a bloviating windbag addressing a generation of fat, mindless housewives sitting on their sofas eating bonbons. She's reality TV's Harlequin Romance -- on and on and on about love and diets and makeup and fashion and blah blah blah. Hardly a powerhouse outside her studio. Sure she's loaded, but a gnat on the political scene.
    but how do you define 'power' texpat? and who do you think wields more of it (and will continue to do so for years to come) over the lives of american women than oprah winfrey?

    tens of thousands of american women showed up for obama rallies a few months ago....who else is going to get women to come out for a politician like that?

    and it's not just in the US....oprah has tremendous direct influence on women all over the world...and there's very few people who can say the same.
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    A lot of women can't connect with Hillary, because she is hard bitch and a power woman, with more balls than most men, hence she is intimidating even for women,

    Let's hope God make McCain win, a turkey like that will make election history,

    I wonder how Powel is feeling these days, he must feel betrayed, that dumb boyscout got completely owned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    I wonder how Powel is feeling these days, he must feel betrayed, that dumb boyscout got completely owned
    one of the saddest final acts in the history of american politics.

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    Ok from WSJ

    Clinton won California, a big victory after trading states with Obama. The Illinois senator won Connecticut and a close Missouri race, among others. Clinton was victorious in much of the Northeast, plus Arkansas and some neighbors

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