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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    Pathetic is the only word to describe the intellectual level of the radical left on this board. Well, close-minded would be another word actually, and then again maybe thick would also be approporaite, and also, well you get the idea.
    Make up your mind. Only word or many words!

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    ^^Your continued dribbling is rather at odds with the self-professed intellectual/academic that you pretend to be, AA.

    One of the main tenants of your complaints against Chomsky is that he doesn't follow 'accepted academic research practises'. It turns out that you yourself don't follow this notional and arbitrary standard that you've set, that you base all your criticsms of Chomsky on the works of others. This makes you both a hypocrite and intellectually dishonest. Tedious too.

    Now go on, repeat yourself again. I'm sure you've managed to at least convince yourself by now...

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    ^

    More of the same off-topic nonsense

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    ^"Off-topic" because I was discussing Chomsky and your repeated failure to live up to the standards you yourself set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn View Post
    ^

    More of the same off-topic nonsense
    Is this on topic?

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    ^

    "Is this on topic?"

    No

    ^ Even more off topic nonsense

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    You're being very childish AA, but then you know this don't you.

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    AA I am only quoting you!

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    ^ and ^^

    More attempts to make this thread about me (you guys seem quite fascinated by me, why?)

    Back to the topic.

    Did or didn't Chomsky lie when he claimed a CIA report claimed US bombings killed 600,000 people in Cambodia?

    A simple yes or no question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    You're being very childish AA, but then you know this don't you.
    Unfortunately, I suspect he doesn't....

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    ^

    Yet another voice added to the off-topic discussion

    Come on Chomskities, answer the question.

    Did or didn't Chomsky lie when he claimed a CIA report claimed US bombings killed 600,000 people in Cambodia?

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    AA, can you stop moaning like a girl,

    stop playing victim, you have not shown any evidence, only trashy links with questionable sources (CIA included)

    it's public knowledge that Americans bombing Cambodia was helping the Khmer rouge,

    You seem to be the only one denying that fact,

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    American and South Vietnamese assaults in Cambodia, a country whose neutrality the U.S. claimed to respect, caused massive, unconscionable death and destruction. The Finnish Inquiry Commission referred to the number of deaths as genocidal. According to the Commission, 600,000 Cambodians died out of a population of 7 million and another 2 million people became refugees. Carlyle Thayer, an Australian Indochina specialist, estimated the number of dead at 500,000 of which 50,000 to 60,000 were executions. The CIA estimated that 600,000 had died.

    President Richard NIxon, Henry Kissinger, and the Bombing of Cambodia excerpted from the book Lying for Empire How to Commit War Crimes With A Straight Face by David Model Common Courage Press, 2005, paper

    If you want further comment, you'll need to track down the original CIA report AA, and for that matter source AND reference Chomsky's original quote, so we can compare the two.

    But,as you can see from the above book excerpt-
    A Finnish commission also estimated the deaths at 600,000 plus an Australian expert arrived at 500K.
    This book also says the CIA estimate was 600,000, and it is not a Chomsky book.

    but this all rather trivial methinks, as both casualty estimates were then eclipsed by the subsequent Khmer Rouge- which the bombing radically increased popular support for, as the then Lon Nol government in Cambodia was considered 'pro-US'. The important thing, from the public interest perspective, is that it was principled dissidents like Chomsky and a few others who brought these atrocities to the attention of the public, whilst faced with a barrage of denial from the Nixon administration. They were proved right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    Did or didn't Chomsky lie when he claimed a CIA report claimed US bombings killed 600,000 people in Cambodia? A simple yes or no question.
    No is my answer

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    ^

    Please explain your answer.

    "No" WOW!!!!!!!!!! What an articulate response, Did you expect that piece of logic to change anyone's opinion?

    God, the left on this site are completely lacking in intellectual capacity.

    Sabang

    I see you refuse to answer the question or address the evidence presented, instead you insist on attempting to change the subject and make it an argument about Chomsky's conclusion which can neither be proven nor disproven. However, Chomsky's lies can be proven and you refuse to address the issue. Posting leftist propaganda without a single citation does nothing to further your position. Leftists all have the same story, and frankly nearly all of it is based on lies and falsehoods they learned from Chomsky.

    Carry on. Keep filtering out any information that does not fit into your simplistic worldview, if ignorance is bliss, you must be one happy Muthafricker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    A simple yes or no question.
    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    Please explain your answer.
    Moron

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    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Another articulate response. You must be the pride of the left.

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    Can you read
    I am quoting you again!

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    AA, are you real ? please make it so

    I am assuming you are American, right ?

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    ^

    More and more attempts to change the topic from Chomsky's lies to me. Same old strategy of the left, fuel hatred instead of debating evidence.

    The story of the 20th century is the story of socialism versus freedom. Freedom won, why is that so hard for the leftists to accept. Why do the leftists continue to follow a failed philosophy and its leader despite the overwhelming evidence that their ideology which their leader advocates does not work?

    Obviously socialism is dead, freedom is our future. Why are these silly Chomiskities still holding on to the idea tyranny leads to happiness and improvements in our lives?

    One thing we can learn from the Chomskyites, communists, Khmer Rouge and all others with similar political ideology, never underestimate the stupidity of some members of mankind.

    What do you call the followers of a proven liar and fraud?

    I call them stupid.

    What do you call the followers of someone who lives a luxurious capitalist lifestyle while proclaiming the evil of the lifestyle he lives?

    I call them stupid

    What do you call the followers of a man who has supported the most brutal regimes of the last 50 years?

    I call them stupid

    What do you call the followers of an ideology that has failed everywhere it has been tried?

    I call them stupid.

    What do you call the followers of an individual who believes the country he lives in is the most evil place on earth but makes not attempts to move to places where regimes he supports reign?

    I call them stupid

    Chomskyites, you prove that no matter how far the human race has progressed, there are still an abundance of stupid genes in the human gene pool.


    Chomskyites (stupidities) carry on, there is no way your logic will ever convert anyone but the truly stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    never underestimate the stupidity of some members of mankind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    A simple yes or no question.
    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    Please explain your answer.
    Absolutely. Time to look in the mirror

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    never underestimate the stupidity of some members of mankind.
    I think you are the living proof of that, so yes you are correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    However, Chomsky's lies can be proven
    But you have yet to prove one, indeed you just backpedal (as yet another Blog 'Fact' dissolves), and your angst is hilarious. My evidence comes from published books, and more than one- yours from a Right wing internet Blog, entitled '200 Lies by Chomsky'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    you must be one happy Muthafricker
    Indeed I am. People like you make me realise how fortunate I am.

    I know it's a waste of time, but just to add to the ajarn amusement value, care to quote from one Primary source? A cursory check revealed the Finnish government and an Aussie expert both in line with these findings that you and your Blog dispute, and furthermore another independent source has said the CIA estimate was at 600K deaths too.

    Being the objective scholar that you are , presumably your academic talents will make it simple for you to quote from one, single Primary source? Or is Right wing scholarship these days a question of quoting from an unpublished right wing Blog?
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    Sorry, but having been described as having a non-violent, non-combative stand against capitalism....how on earth would any of his sociological goals be attained?

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    'Noam Chomsky is a major scholarly resource. Not to have read him is to court genuine ignorance.' Nation

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