I wish Pete Hegseth would try not to look like a practicing drunk.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
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I wish Pete Hegseth would try not to look like a practicing drunk.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
Anyone is better than the conservatives or labour who have run this country into the ground.
want to know why the population of the uk is firmly behind the reform party, and the government of the moment is running very very scared.
then read on.
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Britain’s politicians are terrified of a revolt. Free speech crackdowns won’t save them
Frantic police raids over social media posts hardly speak of a country at ease with itself and its politics
Sam Ashworth-Hayes
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11 May 2025 5:30pm BST
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...g?imwidth=1920
Julian Foulkes next to his "Brexity" bookcase
A Soviet and an American meet in a bar. After a while, the conversation turns to the Cold War, and the American loudly insists that democracy is the superior system: “If I were to stand outside the White House and yell ‘Nixon is an idiot’, nothing would happen to me,” he says. The Russian shrugs. “So what? If I stand outside the Kremlin and yell ‘Nixon is an idiot’, nothing happens to me either.”
Trying to discuss free speech in Britain is like having this conversation over and over again.
When J D Vance, the US vice-president, criticised the UK’s repeated “infringements on free speech”, Keir Starmer felt compelled to contradict him, insisting “we’ve had free speech for a very long time”. This is simply untrue.
This week, The Telegraph unearthed another reminder that the British state considers monitoring social media to be one of its most important functions. Julian Foulkes, a retired special constable, dared to criticise the pro-Palestine marches in London. His post was viewed 26 times in total. Unfortunately, one of those views came from a Metropolitan Police unit specialising in extremism.
Two days after sending the post, six officers with batons and pepper spray arrested Mr Foulkes at his home, handcuffed him, searched his property for Right-wing material – rifling through his wife’s underwear while criticising his “Brexity” bookshelves – threw him in a jail cell for eight hours, then released him to accept a caution.
This is not appropriate behaviour in a democracy where the political system is supposed to allow for dissenting views and criticism of the Government. It is, however, very in keeping with Britain’s unique understanding of how free speech works, and the state’s approach to managing its population.
Take the CPS decision earlier this year to charge Hamit Coskun with harassing the “religious institution of Islam” after he burned a copy of the Koran outside the Turkish consulate. When Robert Jenrick attacked the Crown Prosecution Service on social media, the charges were rapidly revised to charge him with disorderly behaviour instead.
But changing the name given to an action doesn’t change its substance. The CPS was caught out in what was effectively an attempt to enforce Islamic blasphemy laws, and as a result has attempted to settle on an alternative charge which will have the same effect without the same incendiary wording.
Complaints about “two-tier” policing of actions and speech sting our politicians because they are plainly true. When West Yorkshire Police sit in on a meeting in a mosque as a headteacher, mother and imam beg the “community” not to carry out the death threats sent to a child who scuffed a Koran, then record the scuffing as a “hate incident”, when the Batley grammar school teacher is in hiding for his own protection while those who threaten him walk free, when police officers and councillors in Rotherham and beyond insist that rape gangs preying on children need to be covered up to protect “community cohesion”, the state is showing you how it carries out its function of keeping the peace.
As Britain has become more diverse, the state has reordered itself around this new reality. Nation states, homogeneous and governed as such, slot neatly into cultural and institutional frameworks that allow for luxuries such as policing by consent of a singular community. The incentives given by this model are perverse.
If you set out with the goal of minimising the risk of conflict between groups, then you will tend to police those who are easily policed, rather than those who infringe on the rights of others. Peaceful pro-Israel protesters are arrested for holding signs stating the official position of the British state – that Hamas is a terrorist organisation – for their own “safety”. The same police force will tie itself in knots attempting to explain why calls for “jihad” at a Hizb ut-Tahrir protest are fine.
Your rights, in other words, are directly related to the perceived threat your group poses. If you are largely peaceful, you will face the full force of the law as it attempts to avoid clashes between groups. If police officers are worried that a riot will result from confrontation, an offender will likely walk free. And the wider war on free speech results from the same dynamic.
There is a complacent idea that restricting speech for political ends is the sort of thing that happens in dictatorships, the act of rulers who fear that common knowledge of dissent might lead to revolt.
Now think, briefly, about how Britain restricts speech around migration, around diversity, around “community relations”.
Britain’s ruling classes did not make Britain diverse with the consent of the governed. They did it despite repeated demonstrations that the population wanted nothing to do with half-baked dreams of an American-style melting pot.
They suppressed discussion of issues of integration, covered up crimes and scandals, buried data, and insisted over and over again that the project was working, terrified of what might happen if they were proven wrong.
This was very rarely explicitly stated. Politicians have generally managed to elide cracking down on harsh words with fighting violence by talking in vague terms about instigators or tensions; they have pretended that granting a state-enforced veto on speech to the sensibilities of one group or another is simply the act of a decent, kind society rather than a state running scared of the tensions it has allowed to grow.
Prof David Betz at King’s College London has warned us how this might end. Our country is already splintered, factionalised, polarised and economically moribund, the perfect conditions for civil conflict. And politicians who raged at Elon Musk for suggesting this was a possibility now behave as if the slightest spark will light the tinder.
That is not the behaviour of an elite confident in the stability of the country they have built. Read between the lines of the speeches on diversity as strength, and migration as lifeblood, and the message is clear: they are terrified of what might happen, and have no idea how to fix things. Clamping down on free speech is their last roll of the dice. If that fails, what next?
the reform party at the moment have no chance of forming a government, but they have perfectly crystallised the dissatisfaction felt by the majority of brits at the direction the country has taken. reform are moving forcing the government to take note, and to review the direction they seek to take the country.
after immigration, comes the bankrupting idiocy of net zero, and after that comes dealing with the epidemic of low level crime that infects every town and city in the country, aided by a police force and justice system that ignore it as they persecute the users of social media and those who dare upset certain "communities".
we have been taken for fools for long enough. and reform are very successfully voicing that discontent.
now back to my very brexity bookcase.
I think you'll find that 14 years of a Conservative government did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonecollector
Which is why Labour are now fixing the mess they've been left.
What idiotic bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonecollector
Look at who was in power for 14 of the last 15 years.
As a District Councillor I receive a taxable allowance of approx £450 a month. I'm sure I could claim expenses but it's not worth the bother. You get more for being a shadow portfolio holder or chairing a committee (overview and scrutiny, in the case of the opposition). Alas the shadow roles are doled out by the shadow leader (who also receives and enhanced allowance) to friends and supporters, irrespective of merit. A back bench County Councillor receives c £20,000 pa. But it's almost a full time job. Again, there's extra allowances for chairing committees and portfolio holders. The system is so corrupted that many roles are again doled out to supporters and those who will not rock the boat. Reform promise to rock the boat, but most of them struggle to find the harbour.....
Exactly (as I said above).Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
These Tory twats are the ones to blame.
Yet there are people out there who want to elect Tories on steroids and the wankers who gave us the never-ending nightmare that is Brexit.
Police say they are investigating after a fire at UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer's house in north London in the early hours of the morning.
A cordon was put in place outside the Kentish Town property, with firefighters and police officers present.
The London Fire Brigade said it had been called to a "small fire" at 01:11 BST and it was under control 20 minutes later.
Sir Keir - who now lives at his official residence in Downing Street - is understood to still own the property.
Police investigate fire at Starmer’s house - BBC News
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Julian Foulkes, a retired special constable, dared to criticise the pro-Palestine marches in London. His post was viewed 26 times in total. Unfortunately, one of those views came from a Metropolitan Police unit specialising in extremism.
Two days after sending the post, six officers with batons and pepper spray arrested Mr Foulkes at his home, handcuffed him, searched his property for Right-wing material – rifling through his wife’s underwear while criticising his “Brexity” bookshelves – threw him in a jail cell for eight hours, then released him to accept a caution.
Yes, the "certain community" in question appears to have been the Jewish community. :chitown:Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
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Responding to a user who had defended participation in a pro-Palestinian demonstration, Mr Foulkes posted: “One step away from storming Heathrow looking for Jewish arrivals…”
He later told the Telegraph that his intention had been to highlight the risks of antisemitic escalation. Kent Police interpreted it as a potential antisemitic threat.
Police apologise to pensioner after arresting him for tweeting about antisemitism - The Jewish Chronicle - The Jewish Chronicle
:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostandfound
As a new party starting out, they will accept anyone who will stand without a prior history of local government workings or proper politics.
As they grow there will be defections and weedling out of the morons and eventually in three years time we will have a center right party elected.
But to be fair the damage to the UK has already irreversibly been done.
Yes, as those with functioning brains pointed out at the time, bojo and BREXIT were idiotic moves and Truss was even worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
dave spart
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Yes, as those with functioning brains pointed out at the time, bojo and BREXIT were idiotic moves and Truss was even worse.
nothing whatsoever wrong with brexit, the fault was that the uk was never able to take advantage of the opportunities it provided, and a lot of that was down to fierce opposition in parliament, the lords, the civil service and last but certainly not least, the fuckers in the eu itself. the eu is becoming a lost cause and we are well out of it.
but that was the past cyrille, and now it is about time you moved on, stopped sounding like one of those boring weekend warrior student activists, and put that silly mantra of yours (bojo, truss, tory scum, right wing extremists, 14 years, racists, all their fault, brexit, etc.etc.etc.) back in its box and concentrated on the shit show starmer is presiding over right now. they have been in office for a year and done fuck all, other than make the country less prosperous, less law abiding, less democratic and less attractive to inward investment.
and regarding the eu you deluded old fart, trump, for all his sins, is about to hammer another well deserved nail into the eu's waiting coffin.
Does that mean farange is in the clear?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
What is obvious is even though your plan is unfolding across the Atlantic and is being proven to be an utter sh1tshow no matter the denials , you are just your average bunch of old racist white men
:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
Bus pass not active yet, tax?
Can't get a much needed new frame for your Enoch portrait?
:rofl:
Mr. Trump wouldn't know how to use a hammer. He's nearly as dumb as Prince Harry.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
Funny, that's what the conservatives said. How do some of you not see they are two of the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by hallelujah
Bus pass not active yet, tax? 555
Old Enoch then
BadEnoch now
Enoch Powel I saw him speak a great orator from King Edward VI school even if you disagreed with his remedies. It was adjacent to the Ted Heath's Bexley constituency in1970 I think, the then PMs constituency and Wilson and various 60 politician's with my family.
A very different pre net world with very deferential interviews, old men insuiyts and dockers heckling bit lik ethe darts of a football match all an education for a young shaver.wilson Brown Thorpe Heath saw them all, Although I opposed her Thatcher was also a fair orator but Michael heseltine was notorious for "finding the clitoris of Tory party".
The phrase "finding the clitoris of the Conservative Party" is a metaphorical expression attributed to Michael Heseltine, a former Conservative politician. It's used to describe someone who understands how to appeal to and resonate with the core, most influential parts of the Conservative Party's base. It essentially means they know how to connect with the party's values, motivations, and priorities to gain traction and influence
Nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonecollector
You'll need more than that if you're posting about the last 35 years.
You'll also need something about how they both went wrong.
I haven't seen anything from you that suggests you're up for it.
I'm not saying you can't do that of course.
But 14 years of tories +1 year of Labour?
Get to it.
I'm looking forward to it.
No, honestly.
What about "New Labour " and Phony Bliar, things can only get better:)Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
Is it me or is Labour suddenly being (or pretending to be) the anti-immigration party?
They are pandering to the Reform voters and getting it wrong again. Legal migration is not the issue!Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Reform voters want all the boats stopped and all the the military age boat men deported!
It's that simple....
Labour only get into power by landslides when the electorate get pissed of with the Tories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
Same old, rinse and repeat.
I'm sure GB News would tell you to foam at the mouth about someone else, even if they did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
They are pandering to the "Red Wall", that voted Cons before turing Liebour in the last election and if polls are to be believed look like voting reform in the next, its dog whistle politocs. Not one party has a cohertent strategy for the country covering ket issues like energy, food security, water, defence or transport, in fact none of these useless fuker has for decades and the country is in a mess and exposed to any and all global events as a result. I see no change in this situation and it'll get worse as the percentage of idolent voters get a gretaer say in the vote and these useless politicians pander to then to keep in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
In short we is fuked
I'll have to check out this GB News you keep wittering on about, it must be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Joe's obviously way too dim to tackle it.
But c'mon Bonecollector.
You can do it.
Explain how this shit show is down to anyone other than the tories.
Take your time.
35 years of British politics as you see it.
:chitown:
Ok Ciz let's kick off with..Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
WMD & several hundred Britsh Service personnel killed and several thousand injured in Iraq and Afghanistan with Blairs "war on terror"...
^^What, you're just going to list things?
My god but you are one dim bulb, aren't you.
How different your life would be if your first language was of a standard where you could actually analyse things.
Instead you're just left with lists, videos and getting pissed.
Oh well.
:sad:
DOLT | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary
HAHAHAHAHAHA good one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
:smileylaughing:
Yeah, in addition to his other 'challenges' he's also given to straight out lying.
airhead
berk
birdbrain
blithering idiot
blockhead
dunce
dunderhead
eejit
fathead
:D
Reform UK councillors refuse diversity training
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Image caption,Reform UK councillors attended their first meeting of West Northamptonshire Council on FridayArticle information
- Author,Nadia Lincoln
- Role,BBC News, Northamptonshire
- 19 May 2025, 05:50 BST
A Reform UK council leader has confirmed that his group will not take part in diversity or climate training as part of their new roles as elected officials.
Mark Arnull, a Reform UK councillor, was appointed as the leader of West Northamptonshire Council on Wednesday.
He told the Local Democracy Reporting Service: "As it stands, I will stand with the policy and the councillors on the Reform group will not be attending the training."
Kier Starmers a wanker...
http://youtu.be/Gy4T7rzKuwU?si=lrEyKpNUpbXm9mXq
Again, 'commiunicating' via yt videos.
He can't adequately communicate in his first language.
'Kier Starmers (:rolleyes:) a wanker' is his limit.
'Reform'
Yikes.
Back to the Golden Age of troglodytes.
What's wrong with YT videos? Are you as ancient as Chalkie the fierce teacher in the Giles cartoons?
cyrille is definitely more jimmy edwards in "whacko" than chalkie.Quote:
Originally Posted by 39TG
https://media.gettyimages.com/id/269...Yz_RbdnnPCtZ0=
https://media.gettyimages.com/id/314...7vySkOIp_Ecck=
'17 years in a Hua Hin Condo' by Archie Goldberg
A gripping tale of one man's struggles with his bisexuality, whilst extracting gold fillings to 'even things up'.
cyrilles been triggered !!!
racist anti semitic tropes and sneering insinuation from teak doors mr. lefty woke.
its 6 of the best for you cyrille.
It doesn't take much , any excuse to get his cane out .:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
Six of the best...
" You will gobble my Far Left Woke ideology " whack!
" Starmer is God! " Whack!
" You will post a picture " Whack!
" How dear you spell I am a cvnt incorrectly " Whack!
" Everyone who disagrees is Far Right" Whack!
" only I can stick the pages together in my Mills and Boon book collection " Whack!
:smileylaughing:
english nationalism looks like a casting call for brokeback britain