Thread: October 7th

Originally Posted by DrWilly

And what consequences will the US face?

Their clearly inherent stupidity and addiction to violence is its own punishment. The civil war that is already under way between The Stupid and The Banal is just the cabaret.

Israel is fighting on the frontline of the free world. Thank us later

One year on from October 7, the West’s enemies are counting on Jerusalem’s allies to give up

Eylon Levy

07 October 2024 10:00am BST


Israel is doing the West’s dirty work Spencer Colby/The Canadian Press

“We want you to win.” That is what then British prime minister Rishi Sunak told Israelis just days after the October 7 massacre. He was not alone. Shocked by Hamas’ atrocities, world leaders lined up to support Israel’s goal of bringing Hamas down and the hostages home. They understood what was at stake: an Iranian-backed jihadi regime could not be left free to repeat those attacks “again and again,” as it vowed.

One year later, Israelis want to know: does the free world still want us to win, or has it changed its mind? Because a year after Hamas burned Israeli families alive, the stakes are even higher. Israel is not only fighting Hamas; it is fighting for its life against the Iranian regime and its proxy armies on seven fronts. And as we fight for our survival, we know that we are fighting on the frontlines of the free world, against the enemies of the free world, and making the world safer for you.

We don’t need your thanks. We do need you to hold your nerve.

On October 7, Hamas pulled the trigger of a regional war. It slaughtered 1,200 people and seized over 250 hostages, including babies. The next day, its Lebanese ally Hezbollah saw what it did and opened a second front; it has rained over 10,000 missiles and drones on Israel, forcing tens of thousands of Israelis out of their homes. Then their Yemeni allies, the Houthi pirates, joined the feeding frenzy and started firing ballistic missiles and drones, seizing control of the Red Sea. Iran’s proxy armies in Syria and Iraq have killed Israelis with their own drones, and West Bank terrorists are trying to resume suicide bombings. The Iranian regime has targeted us with two of the biggest ballistic missile attacks in world history.

The October 7 War is existential for Israel – and for the free world. To secure our survival, we need to remove the threat of the terrorist armies on our borders, hellbent on our destruction. Israel cannot accept a ceasefire that leaves these terrorist armies free and emboldened to intensify their religious war to annihilate us. But it is also existential for the free world, whose future depends on the fate of three democracies, at risk of extinction by aggressive neighbors: Ukraine at the hands of Russia, Taiwan at the hands of China, and Israel at the hands of Iran.

Those threats are interlinked, because Russia, China, and Iran are trying to undermine the global order and destabilize Western countries from within.

At stake is whether the enemies of the free world conclude that it won’t stand up for itself, and will throw its allies under a bus when the going gets tough. Because the Iranian regime and its proxies understand the critical importance of Israel to the West’s security, perhaps more than some Western leaders do. They want to weaken us to weaken you; they want to hurt us to hurt you.

This is not a war Israel started, wanted, or even expected. But it is a war that we must win, because we want to live. Much of the West wants this war to go away, but the war cannot go away until the threats go away. And we cannot wish them away.

We cannot accept a return to October 6 2023, with Iran’s terrorist armies waiting for a moment of weakness on our borders. Obviously we want a diplomatic resolution, but what is the diplomatic off-ramp from a seven-front war against us, by terrorist armies threatening more October 7 massacres until Israel is destroyed? Right now, “deescalation” is simply another word for appeasement, a policy to give Tehran’s terrorist proxies a chance to catch their breath when Israel has them on their knees.

Israel is doing the world’s dirty work. It does not want your sympathy; it demands your respect. It is single-handedly taking out the world’s most wanted terrorists with bounties on their heads. It is dismantling the Iranian regime’s proxy armies and disrupting their supply routes. It is conducting espionage operations far beyond Q’s wildest ambitions. It is showing the world what it means to have a spine and stand up for yourself, your survival, and your country. To withstand unimaginable pressure to do what you’ve got to do to keep your family safe.

In Israel we all dream of peace, but we know peace is impossible while we are surrounded by enemies that openly seek our annihilation. A ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power, hostages in Gaza, and Hezbollah threatening a bigger October 7 from Lebanon would only set the clock ticking to the next war.

And have no doubt, if Israel does not win the October 7 War, there will be a next time, and it will be worse, and it will be worse because the enemies of the West will conclude that it will keep saving them from the wars that they start.

The Iranian regime and its proxy armies are counting on Western states to abandon a major ally and leave themselves exposed. They want you to bottle it. Don’t.

and for those blinkered folk frothing at the mouth about the lebanese and gazan casualties, ask yourselves this, a question yet to be asked by any news reporter or media outlet ever.

why are civilians, women and children not allowed to shelter in the tunnels used to shelter the fighters and their arms.

the iranian supported terrorist mafias are using the people they purport to represent and defend and as human sacrifices in order to influence western opinion.

this is more than jew v. muslim, its a fight between 2 opposing ideologies, and westerners infected with woke and self loathing hatred of their counties (including more than a few teak door muppets) are cheering on the side that will eventually enslave you, your womenfolk and your children should they succeed.

Trouble is that people like you are too stupid to realise that all this is does is breed the next generation of hateful terrorists.

Originally Posted by taxexile

this is more than jew v. muslim, its a fight between 2 opposing ideologies, and westerners infected with woke and self loathing hatred of their counties (including more than a few teak door muppets) are cheering on the side that will eventually enslave you, your womenfolk and your children should they succeed.

What nonsense. And you claim others swallow propaganda.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Trouble is that people like you are too stupid to realise that all this is does is breed the next generation of hateful terrorists.

Absolutely it is. Israel is breeding more freedom fighters.

The ultra-nationalist Israeli government is clearly out of control and needs reining in. It's time for sanctions that include a complete arms embargo. These sanctions need to be severe enough that it forces Israel into accepting a two state solution with Palestine created as a single united area rather than split into two separate areas.

Pressure needs to be applied in a similar manner to that used against South Africa to ensure the two state solution and stability in the area.

The Zionists are not some special super race, they are just nationalists that are acting on a par with Hitler and Putin. This nationalist government needs to be removed and replaced with one more tolerant and understanding of all its citizens.

are we there yurt?

Originally Posted by Troy

The ultra-nationalist Israeli government is clearly out of control and needs reining in. It's time for sanctions that include a complete arms embargo. These sanctions need to be severe enough that it forces Israel into accepting a two state solution with Palestine created as a single united area rather than split into two separate areas.

Pressure needs to be applied in a similar manner to that used against South Africa to ensure the two state solution and stability in the area.

The Zionists are not some special super race, they are just nationalists that are acting on a par with Hitler and Putin. This nationalist government needs to be removed and replaced with one more tolerant and understanding of all its citizens.

I'd recommend anyone who wants to understand the motivation for this carnage to watch the documentary in the link below.

The glee exhibited by the terrorists is quite sickening.


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That film was on UK tv the other night. It's a hard watch.

I am surprised that the israelis have managed to show the restraint they have done after women, children and babies were subjected to that rape and gore fest.

.... and again, it begs the question as to why in the year long bombardment of gaza, and now lebanon, in order to destroy hamas and hezbollah, use of the vast tunnel network built with stolen aid money from the west, has been denied to the women and children and they have been left above ground as human sacrifices to die and to be filmed by the worlds media as evidence of supposed war crimes by the israelis, who according to the geneva convention have every right to go after an enemy that places itself and its weapons amongst innocent civilians.

got to love the raghead mind eh?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Only a fucking idiot would be influenced by that propagandising Waffen IDF bullshit.

Where is the narrative with sound track and video evidence of the 6,800 innocent civilian Palestinians butchered by the Zionist pigs in Palestine and the West Bank between 2008 and 2023? Where are the newsreels and documentary evidence of the 42,000 innocent Palestinians slaughtered in Gaza by the Waffen IDF including over 17,000 women and children whose bodies were eviscerated by flying shrapnel, crushed by falling masonry or whose brains were blown out of their skulls by the IDF bomb blasts?

Well you donÂ’t see it because the Israeli thugs have targeted most of the journalists killing over 128 of them in order to prevent the truth of the slaughter from emerging from the rubble of Gaza.

Christ, the Jewish propaganda is sickening in the face of the carnage meted out by the Zionist psychopaths whose torture and brutality of Palestinian men illegally held in captivity is legendary.

The fucking Zionists have had it coming to them since 1948, this is just another page in their descent into savagery, a lesson they learned from their Nazi mentors in Warsaw.

October 7 was simply the Hamas freedom fighters reciprocating.

From the River to the Sea!

Yes, those brave "freedom fighters" tossing hand grenades into a room full of unarmed civilians.

They're so fucking brave.

You wanker.

Originally Posted by pickel

You clearly don't understand what an Ashkenazi Jew is, that's quite obvious.

Wrong again, you are just a horseshit peddling antisemite.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Despite the rhetoric of the Israeli Waffen IDF and the Russo dominated Knesset

Oh look another lathered, frothing at the mouth moronic terrorist supporter pushing propaganda. Blah, Blah, Blah you utter moron.

Originally Posted by Troy

Indeed, this could be the beginning of the end of Israel that we are witnessing.

What planet are you idiots living on? You have clearly gone insane, Israel just decapitated Hezbollah and is currently clipping HAMAS. Your terrorist buddies are taking it up the arse in a big way, you clowns. Israel is stronger than ever. Troy, once again and for evermore wrong as fuck. What a clown.

Wow...this thread has got it all.

More of your stupid crap, Karen.

Who is the silly cvunt censoring the thread?

It’s a fucking TD debate, you dribbling moron, not a fucking chat on Mumsnet.

there is a big difference, you decrepit lump, between the informed comment added by most here and the rabid, racist and hateful bilge you are spewing out on a regular basis.

that jewess that laughed at your cheesy limp dick all those years ago has really affected you hasnt it.

Apparently about 10% of the world's ashkenizim live in Israel. Compared with about 80% Sephardic pretty fucked up folks all of them.

Originally Posted by bsnub

More of your stupid crap, Karen.

Just ignore the twat snubby

Originally Posted by taxexile

there is a big difference, you decrepit lump, between the informed comment added by most here and the rabid, racist and hateful bilge you are spewing out on a regular basis.

that jewess that laughed at your cheesy limp dick all those years ago has really affected you hasnt it.

There was nothing rabid, racist or hateful about my comment which was factually accurate and in accord with established historical fact. That it was couched in robust terms does not detract from its veracity or relevance.

The thing is, Israelis get a free ride out of some vestigial guilt over the Holocaust which has fuckall to do with Arabs, Islamists or their culture. Allowing them to slaughter whomsoever arouses their psychopathic biblical neuroses is perhaps the greatest of all ironies in the light of the Palestinian genocide.

Censoring my view is a fucking disgrace and the final straw.

I shall post no more.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I shall post no more.

shown the door by a cabal of filthy jew lovers??
toys out of pram time???
a flounce????

or simply rendered speechless by your own toxic hubris?

... you big girls blouse!

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'd recommend anyone who wants to understand the motivation for this carnage to watch the documentary in the link below.

That victim card was used up a long time ago. It is no excuse for the continued and wanton killing of civilians in Gaza and the West Bank.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Israel just decapitated Hezbollah and is currently clipping HAMAS

Israel has decapitated the heads of Palestinian organisations many times, only for them to regenerate, stronger and more organised, not the mortal Medusa but her sisters, Sethno and Euryale. The cycle will continue for as long as there is nationalism within Israel, which of course is the nature of the Zionist cult.

As long as there is an Israel supported in a disproportionate way, and given disproportionate means to exercise power, there will be tension in the region.

You can laugh all you like, make fun all you like, but the cycle will continue as long as there is no enforced change in the region.

The Zionists have had their day. They have failed to integrate within the region and have caused nothing but trouble to the native people. It's time for change, to impose sanctions and to force these nationalists, that think they are so superior, to be humiliated into accepting a two state solution.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

There was nothing rabid, racist or hateful about my comment which was factually accurate and in accord with established historical fact. That it was couched in robust terms does not detract from its veracity or relevance.

The thing is, Israelis get a free ride out of some vestigial guilt over the Holocaust which has fuckall to do with Arabs, Islamists or their culture. Allowing them to slaughter whomsoever arouses their psychopathic biblical neuroses is perhaps the greatest of all ironies in the light of the Palestinian genocide.

Censoring my view is a fucking disgrace and the final straw.

I shall post no more.

Fucking baby.

The strong views here , from those safe at home will be even more intense from those experiencing it directly.

With 2 sides on the ground seeking a one state solution it behoves the external powers to work for a compromise.

The Dayton Accords, Belfast agrement and end of aprtheid show what is possible.

IMHO there are in my view towo sides in conflicts

1 Those who seek peace and reconciliation
2 Those who support violence as means to resolve differences or profit from death and arms sales

Originally Posted by Troy

That victim card was used up a long time ago. It is no excuse for the continued and wanton killing of civilians in Gaza and the West Bank.

Have you watched it?