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    Kamala Harris Concession Speech: ‘We Must Accept the Results’ of Election



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    , encouraging peaceful transfer of power

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    Markets close at record highs as Trump is reelected

    US stocks rocketed higher Wednesday following a decisive and consequential victory for former President Donald Trump in Tuesday’s US presidential election.

    The massive rally kicked off in premarket trading and continued through the morning and afternoon trading sessions. The Dow soared by 1,507 points, or 3.57%, to close at a new record high. It’s the first time the blue-chip index has gained more than 1,000 points in a single day since November 2022.

    The S&P 500 and Nasdaq also reached new highs, with the S&P surging by 2.5% and the tech-heavy index closing 2.95% higher. The US dollar had its best day in two years and Treasury yields also rose.

    Markets were mostly juiced by the fact that the election was decided relatively quickly. The election — and the widely held belief that Trump and his allies could contest the result in courts — has served as a cloud over the US economy and stock market in recent months. Markets, in particular, crave certainty, and the clear path forward will allow companies to adjust their business and hiring plans.

    “There’s clarity: We’re not going to see another January 6th event. The market is breathing a huge sigh of relief on that,” said Michael Block, chief operating officer at AgentSmyth. “The mainstream consensus was that we weren’t going to know. And we know.”

    But stocks may also be reacting to Trump’s victory, in particular. Trump flipped several swing states from President Joe Biden’s 2020 victory, and Republicans also took control of the Senate. Several key House races remain undecided. A so-called red wave could usher in an era of deregulation and other pro-business laws and policies that investors believe could benefit the stock market.

    “There is this huge perception of business friendly, tax-friendly regime coming into place, especially with them winning the Senate,” said Block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
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    That lack of interest in politics shows.



    He refused to back Harris because there was no Orville, apparently.




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    I note the Dems have started the inquest already and Kamala is of course front and centre

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    I note the Dems have started the inquest already and Kamala is of course front and centre
    Of course she is, all the other Democrat snouts in the trough will be diving for cover, whining "I told you so."

    Reading the post-match pundits there were three or four consistent themes, not stuff that I was reading in the press recently, just basic reasons why the Dems were always going to lose. Seems obvious now:

    Cost of living. People feel poorer now than they did under Trump. No point talking about abortion and the constitution to people whose top priority is to feed the family.
    Immigration. Lots of demographics are worried about illegals and that includes Latinos and Hispanics who migrated legally. Kamala had that job and she had nothing to show for it.
    Politicians. People are sick of them. Trump is not one.
    War. I have Trump supporting friends who bang on about this. No wars on Trump's watch.

    Not saying I agree. This is what voters are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    I note the Dems have started the inquest already and Kamala is of course front and centre
    It would be a bit weird if they hadn't and she wasn"t.

    Personally, I don't believe they will ever arrive at a conclusion that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    Of course she is, all the other Democrat snouts in the trough will be diving for cover, whining "I told you so."

    Reading the post-match pundits there were three or four consistent themes, not stuff that I was reading in the press recently, just basic reasons why the Dems were always going to lose. Seems obvious now:

    Cost of living. People feel poorer now than they did under Trump. No point talking about abortion and the constitution to people whose top priority is to feed the family.
    Immigration. Lots of demographics are worried about illegals and that includes Latinos and Hispanics who migrated legally. Kamala had that job and she had nothing to show for it.
    Politicians. People are sick of them. Trump is not one.
    War. I have Trump supporting friends who bang on about this. No wars on Trump's watch.

    Not saying I agree. This is what voters are saying.
    I think rightly or wrongly a large swathe of Democrat voters and independents blamed Biden for the poor economy, and she's just got that paint splashed all over her.

    Pretty well all of what you said goes down to money:

    They see money going to immigrants and ask "why not Americans"?

    They see money going to Ukraine and ask "why not Americans"?

    It was an easy message for the Republicans to exploit, and they did it wholeheartedly.

    Watching US TV in the last few weeks, Republican ads have basically been ramming home that message that people would be worse off under Democratic rule.

    Or as GWB once said, "It's the economy, stupid".

    It's pointless saying the US economy recovered quicker than any from Covid, or that the markets are at record highs, because a minority are the ones that benefit from that.

    However, none of those 15m Democrats that couldn't be arsed to vote have a right to moan about what happens for the next four years - they let it happen.
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    Maybe she's just a cock sucking sycophancy........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    Maybe she's just a cock sucking sycophancy........
    Well 70 million odd retards spent a lot of time saying that, so it must be true then.


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    Willie Brown, a serial womanizer and corrupt but oh yeah, she went with him for his looks and charm.

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    The economy and immigration won it for Trump.

    Post Covid, the economy and inflation was not her remit and most of the recovery was down to how it was dealt with, on a global basis.

    For immigration, Biden found it too difficult, so he gave it to Harris. Her solution was to try and reduce it at source, and she had sor success with it, but was bound by current regulations. I put that down as a score draw for her.

    The rest is about Biden and she knew she was o dodgy ground, trying to choose a different way. Again a score draw, not undermining a highly respected sitting president (assuming the party would allow it) is a vry big ask.

    In hindsight,itseasy to see that she lacked knowledge and experience in some ares, but sh didn’t get any help from Biden or the party.

    For me,she was a danger of becoming a whining harpy over women’s rights. That’s down to her. She is right of course, but went too long and too deep on it. As a woman she felt strongly about it, and as a bloke, I found it annoying.

    I truth, Biden and her party lost it for her. On a political level she might have won it. Against an authitarian liar sucking up to masculinity and felon qualms,Trumpwo it.

    I put some of that down to ingrained differences between the USAand the UK.

    It will be very interesting to see what Trump does now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    Willie Brown, a serial womanizer and corrupt but oh yeah, she went with him for his looks and charm.
    Many of us enjoy Willy , wether as Dr King or Pool Boy , questioning Harris' historical choices seems misogynist , a guy who has many partners is seen as a player etc

    None of which undoes teh Dems poor choices in not removing Biden 2 years ago choosing a centrist acceptable to the swing voters which need not be a white man as Obama proved, but PC black qnd Asian and female adn tarred with Biden legacy was obviously the wrong move.

    Once the dust settles like UK they need to rethink the coalition place the identity stuff on the back boiler and unite around a strong leader to face Vance or similar in 2028, The GOP has found the clitoris of the rencks over immigration the Dems need to get the nutlock on the economy , tax the very top to raise minimum wage, offer free universal health care oh and better wait until elected better gun control.

    However it's not my land and the American folks ahve made their bed it's going to be a rough night for thise in economy or on the streets.

    I imagine Musk and the guys at Goldman and Morgan will sleep soundly on their Egyptian cotton sheets with only a nubile trophy to weigh them down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    The economy and immigration won it for Trump.
    Pretty well that, plus everyone over 30 getting pissed off with the pronouns and shit.

    As for the pro-Gaza mob, not voting for her was basically a vote for Benny.

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    Last edited by snakeeyes; 07-11-2024 at 09:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    I think Harris will obtain the nomination from sheer inertia .
    However the swing voters in the swing staes may well accept one of but perhaps all three of

    First Indian origin President
    First "first husband" being jewish
    First Woman President

    none of wish bother me , but I have no vote

    Not sure the Democratic National Committe will agree but all 3 facors and the current polls suggest like Biden she can be beaten by Trump.
    The MAGA crowd are aleardy being racist about Usha Vance Trump's VP choice's spise , they will really et rip into a Californian liberal probably why Newson bowed out.


    I fear she will be chosen and lose in November, through no lack of talent nor integrity unlike the lying twice impeached racist rapist who backed the Jan 6th attempted coup.
    If it was obvious to me a little unimportant siimpleton foreigner 12000km like me away how come the Dens couldn't see common sense ?

    Woman ok
    Indian Ok
    African American ok
    Biden record possibly surmoutable

    All 4 a disaster and inflicting the felon on America

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Or as GWB once said, "It's the economy, stupid".
    That's a James Carville quote. Still true though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I think rightly or wrongly a large swathe of Democrat voters and independents blamed Biden for the poor economy, and she's just got that paint splashed all over her.

    Pretty well all of what you said goes down to money:

    They see money going to immigrants and ask "why not Americans"?

    They see money going to Ukraine and ask "why not Americans"?

    It was an easy message for the Republicans to exploit, and they did it wholeheartedly.

    Watching US TV in the last few weeks, Republican ads have basically been ramming home that message that people would be worse off under Democratic rule.

    Or as GWB once said, "It's the economy, stupid".

    It's pointless saying the US economy recovered quicker than any from Covid, or that the markets are at record highs, because a minority are the ones that benefit from that.

    However, none of those 15m Democrats that couldn't be arsed to vote have a right to moan about what happens for the next four years - they let it happen.
    Bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Bullshit.
    I'm going to have to assume you're one of them then, since you seem so triggered about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm going to have to assume you're one of them then, since you seem so triggered about it.

    Grow up son. You are smarter than that. Not triggered half as much as you are.

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    Trump talked about things people either cared about or were scared about. I think it is important to remember many voted for Biden because he wasn't Trump. Biden was clearly unfit to take on a second term and somehow his ego got the better of him. He then foisted a DEI unpopular vice President onto the people who clearly did not want her. She was never Presidential material. Biden can take a large portion of the blame as well as senior members of the Democrats. The political class has been on the nose for much of blue collar America and Trump benefited by not being seen, rightly or wrongly, as a member of the political class. There were other reasons of course such as the domestic economy in America and people feeling they had gone backwards under the Biden/Harris administration. Then there was the push back against the leftist agenda whilst for some it was just a case of her being a non white woman. Add to that she is of Indian descent. A race that suffers prejudice, I would argue in many countries around the world where they have migrated.

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