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    The Americans say it will take 60 days to build the pier. It's not clear if that 60 days start after they arrive in Gaza. So hungry Palestinians will have to wait at least 2 months for the food. Charities have said those suffering in Gaza cannot wait that long.

    Meanwhile, an aid ship laden with some 200 tonnes of food is expected to set sail from a port in Larnaca, Cyprus on Sunday afternoon, Cypriot media report. The ship, Open Arms, belongs to the Spanish charity of the same name, and the food on board has been provided by US charity World Central Kitchen.

    It is unclear how any aid delivered by sea would get safely to shore before the US pier is built. Gaza has no functioning port and its surrounding waters are too shallow for large vessels.

    However Oscar Camps, the founder of Open Arms, told the Associated Press that at the destination point - which remains a secret - a team from the World Central Kitchen has been building a pier to receive the aid.

    US military ship heading to Gaza to build port - BBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    It's not clear if that 60 days start after they arrive in Gaza. So hungry Palestinians will have to wait at least 2 months for the food.
    There will be far fewer waiting in 60+ days. Biden's political move to build a pier was a very weak attempt to pacify those demanding an immediate Isreali cease fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Biden's political move to build a pier was a very weak attempt to pacify those demanding an immediate Isreali cease fire.
    Yeah

    We all believe and forgive him, cause we are a bit dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    We all believe and forgive him, cause we are a bit dumb.
    Speak for yourself. I am so tired of years of US support no matter what they do. The entire lot of politicians fear losing their jobs if they piss off the powerful Jewish lobby in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
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    We all believe and forgive him, cause we are a bit dumb.
    Speak for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    The entire lot of politicians fear losing their jobs if they piss off the powerful Jewish lobby in the US.
    This is the case, yep.

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    FOREIGN COUNTRY


    ANALYSIS: Deep crisis in relations between Biden and Netanyahu


    The relationship between Israel and the United States was once called "unbreakable." But the war in Gaza has caused US President Joe Biden problems.



    US President Joe Biden is welcomed with open arms by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when he visited Israel last October. (Photo: © EVELYN HOCKSTEIN, Ritzau Scanpix)
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    ANALYSE Dyb krise i forholdet mellem Biden og Netanyahu | Udland | DR

    First, in a telling moment, a camera captures the US president immediately after his State of the Union speech in the House of Representatives almost whispering to a Democratic politician that it's time for a "come-to-Jesus meeting" with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    When Joe Biden realizes that a camera microphone is picking up his words, he stops but also says, 'Good, good!'

    Only a week later, Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader of the Senate, rises in the second chamber of Congress and thunders at the Israeli leader. In his speech, he also criticized Israel's warfare in Gaza and its right-wing government. He called on Israel to hold elections to replace Netanyahu as leader.

    The two incidents are the latest – and clearest – examples of the ever-growing crisis in the normally close relationship between the United States and Israel. A relationship that successive US presidents have called "unbreakable".




    Both Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer are lifelong supporters of Israel.

    It's part of Joe Biden's political DNA, and Chuck Schumer is the highest-ranking Jewish politician in the United States. To see him criticize the Israeli government in this way is, as one commentator wrote, like watching "an elephant fly." Joe Biden subsequently calls the speech 'good'

    READ ALSO:Despite warnings from Biden, Netanyahu is 'determined' on an offensive in Rafah

    Has been Israel's most loyal ally


    During his visit to Israel immediately after Hamas's October 7 terror attacks, Joe Biden pledged his rock-solid support for Israel. He described himself as a "Zionist" and embraced Netanyahu, with whom he has otherwise had a complicated relationship.

    He understood the shock, pain and anger of Israelis, he said, but warned Netanyahu and Israelis not to be swallowed up by the anger.





    President Joe Biden gave a speech in Israel following the Hamas terror attack on October 7, 2023. REUTERS/Evelyn Hockstein (Photo: © EVELYN HOCKSTEIN, Ritzau Scanpix)

    Since then, the Biden administration has been Israel's most loyal ally.

    It has supported Israel's war against Hamas with emergency shipments of weapons, prevented criticism of Israel in the UN Security Council, and set the stage for an additional $100 billion in aid (in addition to the small $24 billion the U.S. already gives to Israel annually, which normally covers a quarter of the country's defense budget).

    Biden's difficult balancing act


    But with the rising civilian death toll and the growing humanitarian disaster in Gaza, Biden has seen his warning and other U.S. advice and calls ignored by Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government.

    He has seen frustration and anger at Israel's actions in Gaza and his own seemingly unwavering support spread, especially among young people and minorities, but also in his democratic base.

    In a critical election year, he has been interrupted during speeches. He has been met by protesters, by protest votes during several primaries, and by internal criticism from employees of his own administration.






    In New York at the beginning of the year, the activist group Jewish Voice for Peace protested Joe Biden's ongoing support for Israel in the war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. (Photo: © Spencer Platt, Ritzau Scanpix)
    Biden's unwavering support has cost him dearly. Yet Netanyahu has played high stakes -- and continued not to listen.

    READ ALSO:Tonight's primaries show war in Gaza seeping into US politics: Protest votes send a clear message to Biden
    And slowly, according to critics far too slowly, Joe Biden's embrace of Benjamin Netanyahu has stiffened. In an interview with MSNBC a few days after his "come-to-Jesus" remark, Joe Biden said outright that Netanyahu "hurt Israel."

    Rarely, as the Wall Street Journal writes, has there been a moment when an American president has been more closely linked to Israel and at the same time in such deep conflict with its leader.

    But that is precisely Biden's new strategy: on the one hand, to distance himself from Benjamin Netanyahu and his actions in Gaza and, on the other, to continue supporting Israel in its war against Hamas. A difficult balancing act.






    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wasn't exactly thrilled with Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer's statements. (Photo: © RONEN ZVULUN, Ritzau Scanpix)
    Benjamin Netanyahu, for his part, has strongly criticized both Joe Biden's and Chuck Schumer's statements. He has called Schumer's call for Israeli elections an inappropriate interference in the internal affairs of another democratic country.

    On Monday, Joe Biden and Benjamin Netanyahu spoke for the first time in a month, and Axios reports that Joe Biden told the Israeli prime minister that he was not trying to undermine him politically. The conversation should have cleared the air slightly.

    But more clashes lie ahead, and as the war in Gaza drags on, the gap between the governments in Washington and Jerusalem only seems to deepen.



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    Biden's dilemma if he maintains support for the extreme Zionists he may lose the liberal reform jews pictured above and the muslim vote in swing states like Michigan and Wisconsin , if I can deduce this with a distant knowledge of American demographics you can be certain the GOP and Trumpanzees will be looking at the granular data right down to precinct level.The outcome may be POTUS Trump2 the REVENGE.
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    Many attachments of the lable, "genocide", to the NaGaStan and Israel current leaders.

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    The UN ceasefire demand obliges: 'Western authority is at stake'
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    FN'''s krav om vabenhvile forpligter: '''Vestens autoritet er pa spil''' | Udland | DR


    On Monday, the UN Security Council adopted a resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. And according to Ole Waever, professor of international politics, the Security Council's decision requires that the West is prepared to enforce the resolution.

    - In other international contexts, we would like to be able to use arguments about the rules-based order with which we have to hit other people over the head when international rules are not complied with. Therefore, it will be a boomerang against the authority of the West if we do not put pressure on Israel.

    The United States did not vote for the resolution, yet Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu criticized the Americans for turning their backs on their consistent line on Israel. The United States chose not to exercise its right of veto in the Security Council and has thus allowed the resolution to be voted through. And that is an obligation on the Americans, Waever said.

    The United States is also committed to taking the next step.




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    The text of the resolution.

    United Nations Security Council Resolution 2728, adopted on 25 March 2024.

    "The Security Council,

    Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations,

    Recalling all of its relevant resolutions on the situation in the Middle East, including the Palestinian question,

    Reiterating its demand that all parties comply with their obligations under international law, including international humanitarian law and international human rights law, and in this regard deploring all attacks against civilians and civilian objects, as well as all violence and hostilities against civilians, and all acts of terrorism, and recalling that the taking of hostages is prohibited under international law,

    Expressing deep concern about the catastrophic humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip,

    Acknowledging the ongoing diplomatic efforts by Egypt, Qatar and the United States, aimed at reaching a cessation of hostilities, releasing the hostages and increasing the provision and distribution of humanitarian aid,

    1. Demands an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan respected by all parties leading to a lasting sustainable ceasefire, and also demands the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, as well as ensuring humanitarian access to address their medical and other humanitarian needs, and further demands that the parties comply with their obligations under international law in relation to all persons they detain;

    2. Emphasizes the urgent need to expand the flow of humanitarian assistance to and reinforce the protection of civilians in the entire Gaza Strip and reiterates its demand for the lifting of all barriers to the provision of humanitarian assistance at scale, in line with international humanitarian law as well as resolutions 2712 (2023) and 2720 (2023);

    3. Decides to remain actively seized of the matter."

    United Nations Security Council Resolution 2728 - Wikipedia

    NaGaStan will go against the resolution, fail to deliver, Israel likewise?

    Probably.

    What do our other TD members predict?

    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    So hungry Palestinians will have to wait at least 2 months for the food. Charities have said those suffering in Gaza cannot wait that long.
    Oh for fuck’s sake, you are a gullible lemming. No one is starving in Gaza, it is a complete lie. It is just amazing the lies being pumped through mainstream media and how the lemmings swallow it all.

    This guy had to pay $10US to buy an airdropped MRE from HAMAS...

    https://twitter.com/imshin/status/1773277094035726751

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    This clown reviews an MRE he also bought from HAMAS...

    https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1769065852878323764

    Gazans have a normal weight; some are chubby!...

    https://twitter.com/KaiEgw/status/1771045805836681447

    Laughable how so many here are getting clowned.

    Nice to see how clean and fashionable they are since they supposedly have no food and no clean water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Oh for fuck’s sake, you are a gullible lemming. No one is starving in Gaza, it is a complete lie.

    JHC, bsnub.

    He really did waste his time on you, didn't he.

    For a bloke living comfortably you have so much hatred it's unreal.

    All the ingredients for a second phase of humanitarian disaster are in place in Gaza.

    But you've got your team, and that's that.

    Man, you may have travelled but you clearly haven't been anywhere.
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    bsnub slags Hamas and he lives in a tunnel under his basement

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    No one is starving in Gaza, it is a complete lie.
    WTF...

    ...because snubby knows more than the UN or the WHO about life in Gaza right now...

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    He is amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Speak for yourself. I am so tired of years of US support no matter what they do. The entire lot of politicians fear losing their jobs if they piss off the powerful Jewish lobby in the US.
    It's interesting that you say that Norton. yourself being ex military and being outside the country for so long as as a veteran expat. I don't think the US needs to get the blame for every fucking thing that happens worldwide infact I will go so far as to say most non-thinking folk are highly influenced by media. Sky news etc. It's fucking diabolical

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLD View Post
    I don't think the US needs to get the blame for every fucking thing that happens worldwide
    Ofcourse not

    Only what they deserve



    Quote Originally Posted by BLD View Post
    I will go so far as to say most non-thinking folk are highly influenced by media. Sky news etc. It's fucking diabolical
    No shit ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    WTF...

    ...because snubby knows more than the UN or the WHO about life in Gaza right now...
    Snubby knows more than anyone else because someone somewhere in the Twittersphere posted something that fits his nutty narrative.

    Unless, of course, snubby is actually on the ground in Gaza!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    For a bloke living comfortably you have so much hatred it's unreal.
    Hatred? WTF are you on about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    ...because snubby knows more than the UN or the WHO about life in Gaza right now...
    Another moron who buys UN propaganda. Do you realize that the October 7 terrorist were also UNRWA? What a bunch of brain-dead lemmings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Snubby knows more than anyone else because someone somewhere in the Twittersphere posted something that fits his nutty narrative.
    Oh do fuck off. You lot just spout propaganda straight from HAMAS/pali authority and UNRWA. Try a modicum of independent thinking.

    Go out in the streets and screech with the rest of the lemmings.

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    ^ Well, there's certainly abundant misinformation doing the rounds on the internet, however, I think you are the one being taken in by it.

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    its about time for some good news, and taxexile is very pleased to announce that 2 more ragheaded scum murderers have been vapourised by the fine soldiers of the IDF.


    Israeli drone strike kills two Palestinian terrorists.
    Islamic Jihad commander killed in attack on a car in Jenin in the northern West Bank

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    Israeli drone strike kills two Palestinian terrorists
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    Two Palestinians, who the Israeli military said posed a “threat” to its soldiers, were killed by an air strike in the occupied West Bank, the Palestinian Authority said early Thursday.

    Israel’s military said shortly after midnight that it was carrying out an operation in the Palestinian refugee camp of Nur Shams, which adjoins the town of Tulkarm in the northwest of the West Bank.

    “During the operation, an aircraft struck two terrorists who posed an immediate threat to the forces,” the Israeli army said in a brief message.

    The Palestinian Authority’s health ministry also said two people had been killed by Israeli fire in the Nur Shams camp and that their bodies had been transferred to a hospital in Tulkarm.

    On Wednesday, three Palestinians, including an Islamic Jihad commander, were killed in an Israeli strike on a car in Jenin, a stronghold of Palestinian armed factions in the northern West Bank.



    Two Palestinians, who the Israeli military said posed a “threat” to its soldiers, were killed by an air strike in the occupied West Bank, the Palestinian Authority said early Thursday.

    Israel’s military said shortly after midnight that it was carrying out an operation in the Palestinian refugee camp of Nur Shams, which adjoins the town of Tulkarm in the northwest of the West Bank.

    “During the operation, an aircraft struck two terrorists who posed an immediate threat to the forces,” the Israeli army said in a brief message.

    The Palestinian Authority’s health ministry also said two people had been killed by Israeli fire in the Nur Shams camp and that their bodies had been transferred to a hospital in Tulkarm.

    On Wednesday, three Palestinians, including an Islamic Jihad commander, were killed in an Israeli strike on a car in Jenin, a stronghold of Palestinian armed factions in the northern West Bank.

    Violence intensifies in West Bank
    Several hundred people, including young men firing automatic rifles into the air, took part in the funerals of the three men in a refugee camp next to Jenin on Wednesday evening, according to AFP journalists.

    Violence has intensified in the West Bank, occupied by Israel since 1967, since the start of the war in Gaza that was triggered by the unprecedented Hamas attacks on Israel on Oct 7.

    According to the Palestinian Authority, at least 430 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli soldiers or settlers in the West Bank since the war began and thousands more have been arrested.

    World News - The Telegraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    During the operation, an aircraft struck two terrorists who posed an immediate threat to the forces,” the Israeli army said in a brief message.
    But were they:

    1. Charged with terrorism ?
    2. Placed in custody ?
    3. Sent to trial before 12 of their peers ?
    4. Did a jury find them guilty ?
    5. Did the court judge announce an appropriate verdict ?
    6. Have one ear cut off ?

    Before or after being determined that they were, "posing an immediate threat to the Israeli army"?

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