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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    if it meant the bias that ad revenue introduces is removed then yes I would
    Yeah right

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    Interestingly, there are already lawsuits in the wind because when it generates code from the large swathe of examples it's found in its searches, it is occasionally churning out elements of proprietary product.
    Something that's going to tested in court several times I fancy.
    This isn't something as subjective as whether or not Robin Thicke plagiarised a backing track.
    The next post may be brought to you by my little bitch Spamdreth

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    There are ad-free search engines. No-one uses them because they're nowhere near at the Google level.
    And there remains the rub.
    Cable was a far superior service, it provided enough value so that people paid for it and it prevailed.
    My Crystal ball is on the blink and I don't know how Chat GDP will play out,
    But as I said, If people decide there is enough value to justify paying for it , then we will. Or they might find a way to monetize it without a paid subscription, as I said Google does not do for altruistic reasons. How go you think they make their billions .
    You pay for it with something greater than a monthly subscription fee, you pay for it with your identity information.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    With this current crop of what might be called invasive technology, some might envision a variety of legalities that will certainly creep up......all of which will lead governments to act with their stamps of over lording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    You pay for it with something greater than a monthly subscription fee, you pay for it with your identity information.
    Yep, if you are not paying for the product, you are the product.

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    ^

    Well spotted

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    90% of online content could be ‘generated by AI by 2025,’ expert says

    Generative AI, like OpenAI's ChatGPT, could completely revamp how digital content is developed, said Nina Schick, adviser, speaker, and A.I. thought leader told Yahoo Finance Live (video above).


    "I think we might reach 90% of online content generated by AI by 2025, so this technology is exponential," she said. "I believe that the majority of digital content is going to start to be produced by AI. You see ChatGPT... but there are a whole plethora of other platforms and applications that are coming up."


    The surge of interest in OpenAI's DALL-E and ChatGPT has facilitated a wide-ranging public discussion about AI and its expanding role in our world, particularly generative AI.


    "ChatGPT has really captured the public imagination in an extremely compelling way, but I think in a few months' time, ChatGPT is just going to be seen as another tool powered by this new form of AI, known as generative AI," she said.


    It's important to understand what exactly generative AI is – and what it isn't.


    "What generative AI can do, essentially, is create new things that would have thus far been seen as unique to human intelligence or creativity," she said. "Generative AI can create across all media, so text, video, audio, pictures – every digital medium can be powered by generative AI. So, I think these valuations that you're seeing for OpenAI are actually going to go up and you're going to start to see even more generative AI companies which have universal applications across many industries in 2023."


    This is all still really new, as applications for generative AI have "only really [been] coming to the fore in the last 24 to 6 months," added Schick.


    'The pace of acceleration is so incredible'


    The generative AI space is set to get far more competitive in the next year, Schick said, who expects to see companies like Google parent Alphabet (GOOG, GOOGL), Microsoft (MSFT), and Apple (AAPL) do "a lot more" in the space.


    Though much has been said about the extent to which ChatGPT may or may not present an existential threat to Google's search dominance, Schick said she expects to see Google compete rather than wither.


    "There's been a lot of debate about whether OpenAI is an existential threat to Google – the fact that Microsoft is an investor in OpenAI, the fact that ChatGPT is going to be integrated into Bing, if that's going to challenge the dominance of Google," said Schick. "Although that's a fantastic story, there's no doubt Google is developing its own generative AI tools with the amount of data that they have, the amount of data they have."


    Though it's complicated, the extent to which ChatGPT in its current form is a viable Google competitor, there's little doubt of the possibilities. Meanwhile, Microsoft already has invested $1 billion in OpenAI, and there's talk of further investment from the enterprise tech giant, which owns search engine Bing. The company is reportedly looking to invest another $10 billion in OpenAI.


    Ultimately, look for the generative AI space to start changing fast.


    "The pace of acceleration is so incredible that these tools – which are shocking and awing us at the beginning of 2023 – are going to seem quite quaint by the end of the year because the capabilities are just going to increase so powerfully," Schick said.

    90% of online content could be ‘generated by AI by 2025,’ expert says

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Yep, if you are not paying for the product, you are the product.
    well said!1 I like it , don't mind if I use it some time.
    Green owed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    And there remains the rub.
    Cable was a far superior service, it provided enough value so that people paid for it and it prevailed.
    It prevailed because people had no choice.

    And by the way, it's riddled with ads now AND you still pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    90% of online content could be ‘generated by AI by 2025,’ expert says
    The big problem I've got with that is that, if it's based on all the content already out there, it's still going to be mostly a pile of shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It prevailed because people had no choice.
    That's absolutely not true, people had the choice of the over the air channels, many still do.
    To save you the trouble,
    you might say " Yea but if they wanted the specialty and premium channels..."
    and then I will reply " with that logic the same applies to open AI. People might not have a choice if they want the enhanced services open AI will provide.
    Then you will say , "Yea but google might provide the same services" and I will reply
    "Then google will become open AI"
    Then you might call be an Idiot, I might challenge you to Key like pie fight at 4 meters"
    And the world will go to hell in a handbasket
    You don't want the world to go to hell in a handbasket , do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    That's absolutely not true, people had the choice of the over the air channels, many still do.
    70% of broadcasters' budgets go on sport. If you are a fan of a particular sport and it goes to cable, you have no choice to but to follow if you still want to watch it.

    Murdoch showed this as a business model with both BSkyB and Fox.

    Yet all of his channels are now riddled with ads.

    Now that I've explained that, it's something completely different to what is under discussion here and I'm not quite sure why you are still banging on about it.

    Watching cable TV is not the same as using something like ChatGPT to do your job (or someone else's).

    Granted I'm not actually working, so I have no need to for a subscription AI, and I wouldn't bother paying for one unless there is a Wow moment in the technology that makes it worth doing.

    Were I still working, I'd definitely have gotten the company to subscribe to what is available (if it goes to a subscription model) as it is obviously a hugely useful tool in many fields, certainly my own. My former team are already onto this and I know my former CIO has his eyes on it, primarily because I tipped him off

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm not quite sure
    No, but you've never let that stop you in the past!

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    One has to wonder how 'his team' have managed to get by without him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    No, but you've never let that stop you in the past!
    Perhaps you can explain the condundrum.

    But I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    One has to wonder how 'his team' have managed to get by without him.
    Simple sybille; with the money they've saved they've hired four new staff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Watching cable TV is not the same as using something like ChatGPT to do your job (or someone else's).

    Granted I'm not actually working, so I have no need to for a subscription AI, and I wouldn't bother paying for one unless there is a Wow moment in the technology that makes it worth doing.
    You have no need for it right now. I don't also.
    I can find all the porn I need on Google LOL
    But the time will come (I think) that there might be things you need on Open AI, perhaps better porn LOL

    Early days on Chat GPT, let's see how the technology plays out.
    Personally, and most experts I read think that it would make the Google business model absolute.

    I personally find it disturbing. This is not an AI behind an air gap, this would be AI out on the wild.
    What can go wrong with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    You have no need for it right now. I don't also.
    I can find all the porn I need on Google LOL
    But the time will come (I think) that there might be things you need on Open AI, perhaps better porn LOL

    Not quite sure how you get there so quickly...


    Early days on Chat GPT, let's see how the technology plays out.
    Personally, and most experts I read think that it would make the Google business model absolute.
    Then most people don't understand that Google is throwing money and resources at this.

    I personally find it disturbing. This is not an AI behind an air gap, this would be AI out on the wild.
    What can go wrong with that?
    Oh I don't know...

    ChatGPT is going to take over the world-terminator_2_judgment_day-833219341-large-jpg



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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Not quite sure how you get there so quickly...




    Then most people don't understand that Google is throwing money and resources at this.



    Oh I don't know...
    O I get it. No doubt they are throwing everything they can at this.
    "Google Engineer Claims AI Chatbot Is Sentient "
    Google Engineer Claims AI Chatbot Is Sentient: Why That Matters - Scientific American

    So obviously they have been working on it.
    My bad, I did not explain properly When I said that it will end google , I meant the current technology and business model
    I am sure Alphabet Inc. will exist in some capacity, and might even thrive , they certainly have the recourse's.
    But to do so in the current capacity as internet search facilitator, If they cant fight them they might have to join them . So Open AI or Chat GPS might be then known as Google 2.0 . But a rose by any other name.........

    PS: I get the joke LOL, I simply took out the picture from your reply to make the exchange easier.
    Last edited by Buckaroo Banzai; 16-01-2023 at 05:49 PM.

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    Ain't the term artificial intelligence ​a bit of a true contradictory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Ain't the term artificial intelligence ​a bit of a true contradictory?
    Would you like to explain why you think that?

    I can always do with a good laugh.

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    He might have read a few of his own posts, and concluded that intelligence was never real in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    He might have read a few of his own posts, and concluded that intelligence was never real in the first place.
    But his posts are less artificial intelligence and more natural stupidity.

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    NOW Google will be getting worried.

    Apparently a chunk of Microsoft's investment is providing the server infrastructure to run it. It costs $300,000 a day to run what is currently a free demo.

    Microsoft will supposedly own 49% of OpenAI.

    Jan 16 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O) on Monday said it is widening access to hugely popular software from OpenAI, a startup it is backing whose futuristic ChatGPT chatbot has captivated Silicon Valley.
    Microsoft said the startup's tech, which it so far has previewed to its cloud-computing customers in a program it called the Azure OpenAI Service, was now generally available, a distinction that's expected to bring a flood of new usage.

    The news comes as Microsoft has looked at adding to the $1 billion stake in OpenAI it announced in 2019, two people familiar with the matter previously told Reuters. The news site Semafor reported earlier this month that Microsoft might invest $10 billion; Microsoft declined to comment on any potential deal.
    Public interest in OpenAI surged following its November release of ChatGPT, a text-based chatbot that can draft prose, poetry or even computer code on command. ChatGPT is powered by generative artificial intelligence, which conjures new content after training on vast amounts of data -- tech that Microsoft is letting more customers apply to use.

    ChatGPT itself, not just its underlying tech, will soon be available via Microsoft's cloud, it said in a blog post.
    Microsoft said it is vetting customers' applications to mitigate potential abuse of the software, and its filters can screen for harmful content users might input or the tech might produce.
    The business potential of such software has garnered massive venture-capital investment in startups producing it, at a time funding has otherwise dried up. Already, some companies have used the tech to create marketing content or demonstrate how it could negotiate a cable bill.

    Microsoft said CarMax, KPMG and others were using its Azure OpenAI service. Its press release quoted an Al Jazeera vice president as saying the service could help the news organization summarize and translate content.
    Microsoft to expand ChatGPT access as OpenAI investment rumors swirl | Reuters


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    I am getting increasingly annoyed with google as a search engine. Littered with ads, and I’m sure it has preferred choices for the hits it finds, based on paid promotion of advertisers.
    It also interrupts any VPN usage for streaming free to air sport and films. (and porn apparently).

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