Thread: A disaster for All Concerned: Taiwan War Games

Originally Posted by sabang

Don't see why the Chinese would ever want to invade Japan (although several would love to nuke 'em).
Don't see that Japan would get actively involved in a Chinese spat either, beyond the token sanctions and condemnation.

Guess this song is outdated

I like chinese
I like chinese
They only come up to you knees
Yet they're always friendly and they're ready to to please

WASHINGTON — U.S. and Japanese officials said on Wednesday that the two nations would expand their military cooperation, including improving Japan’s missile strike capabilities and making the U.S. Marine unit in that country more flexible for potential combat.

The changes come as both nations perceive greater threatening behavior from China and North Korea, as well as Russia. Those three countries have decades-long partnerships that they have recently affirmed in various settings, despite many nations’ condemnation of Russia over its war in Ukraine.

In late December 2022, the Japanese government announced a new security policy, abandoning the fiction that the country’s military (euphemistically called the “Self Defense Forces”) would not possess offensive weaponry. Perhaps more significantly, the government also announced it would increase military spending dramatically, almost doubling the budget over the next five years. This has been reported on internationally (and domestically) as an inevitable reaction to increasing Chinese assertiveness in the South China Sea and elsewhere. Such reporting, however, misses the broader political context.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Vladivostok - which means Ruler of the East, was once a Chinese city known as Haishenwai and was part of China's Qing dynasty.

And Alaska was russian, Louisianna french, Namibia german and so on.

Was is your point, Herman ?

Is there a point ?

And the Ukraine was Russian. Ho hum.

^^ Yes, they are getting Harpoon missiles- so that's a wine for the manufacturer, Boeing.

Originally Posted by sabang

And the Ukraine was Russian. Ho hum.

And Russia was Mongolian.

Originally Posted by Norton

And Russia was Mongolian.

And Scandinavian.

^^ China too. And Britain was part Italian, part Danish. But orrstralia was.... Australian.

Originally Posted by sabang

But orrstralia was.... Australian.

Actually, it was New Holland before it was Australia. Should the Dutch threaten to invade it?

Originally Posted by pickel

Should the Dutch threaten to invade it?

Ask Herman

It was Australian for thousands of years before the first savage whitey laid eyes on the place.

Originally Posted by pickel

In the 1800’s, Dutch navigators named the continent as New Holland.

OK......

Does it really matter what the savage white trespassers called the place, in whatever strange language. It was purely Australian with no foreign content until those white bastards arrived.

I wonder how many had experience playing warhammer on each side.

Originally Posted by pickel

No, it wasn't. Unless the Abo's spoke Latin.

Keep in mind that the Aboriginals had over 200 diverse and rich languages. When they talked about “Australia”, they just referred to it as land or ground. Thus, they often call their land uthuru in the Midwestern portion of Australia; barna in the Murchison region; biik in the Woiwurrung language of Melbourne; and kurrek in the Wemba Wemba language of Victoria. These are mere generic terms that literally meant ground or land, and not really a specific term they unanimously used to refer to their continent or country.

However, the name Australia can be traced back to European navigators. Even before they came to Australia’s lands, Europeans knew that there is an unknown land in the Southern Hemisphere which they referred to as Terra Australis Incognita which is Latin for unknown southern land. In the 1800’s, Dutch navigators named the continent as New Holland. However, Matthew Flingers, a navigator, is known to prefer the term Terra Australis or Australia to refer to the continent.

What do Aboriginals Call Australia

The Chinese had explored and briefly settled in Australia long long before the Europeans.

Originally Posted by sabang

Does it really matter what the savage white trespassers called the place, in whatever strange language. It was purely Australian with no foreign content until those white bastards arrived.

We all came from Africa.

Anyways, can we get back on topic?

Fuck China

The Chinese were trading with Australians long before those white savages arrived.

The problems for China are. They have never fought a war outside of the mainland in the last few hundred years. The last one was probably against Japan which went spectacularly wrong.
Wars are fought in the end with boots on the ground. If the American fleet is involved the chinese troop losses could be horrendous before they even make landfall. Then there is sanctions even though they do take time to bite. An example the Chinese would do well to heed is Huawei smartphone sales. Virtually non existent outside of China. They have gone from about third after apple and samsung to barely any sales in the west. In Europe alone their market share has dropped from around 22% to no better than 1% due to U.S sanctions on software. Their market leading 5G which could've been the biggest in the world, is severely restricted in the west now. Much of it due to China's bellicose diplomacy.
U.S. Missile upgrades in Okinawa are now likely in the near future. Australia has welcomed upgrades to the U.S. bases in northern Australia. If the chinese bolster their land defences it will be useless the U.S. has no intention of invading China. It can blockade China quite well especially if other western countries are involved. Their raw materials will dry up almost immediately. Feeding 1 billion plus with sanctions will be a lot more challenging than trying to feed Russia's 144 million which is in steep decline since the war even without the Russians that have fled.
Meanwhile poor Sabang is still trying to work out his Nationality... "As an Aussie"... "We Brits"...No wondered he has become so confused. A guy pontificating on international politics who still can't work out if he's Arthur or Martha.

Originally Posted by pickel

Anyways, can we get back on topic?

Fuck China

Sabangs job as a useful idiot is to disrupt threads like this by acting like a petulant child spewing its toys about. He has been doing it all day today over in the Ukraine threads. If he does not like the discourse, he has a hissy fit in a sad attempt to disrupt the thread.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Australia has welcomed upgrades to the U.S. bases in northern Australia.

Did the current/then government include this option in their election manifesto?

^ not your concern, they are part of the 16%

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Much of it due to China's bellicose diplomacy.

...a definite shot in the foot that Uncle Pooh has only recently come to view as self-defeating when trying to win over smaller neighbors...

It is a bit embarrassing for the US to try and lecture China about its 'bellicose diplomacy".

...*cough*...nah, the only embarrassment on these threads is your continued posting...why not go to the lobby and get some popcorn while the adults speak?...