Thread: 2024 US Presidential election

Originally Posted by panama hat

So . . . nothing.

Oh come on Harry, not my fault id you do not have a good grasp of the English language.
out of respect for the elderly and feeble I thought I would give you a pass, but since you insist.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

Oh come on Harry, not my fault id you do not have a good grasp of the English language.

Not that I was the one who commented but, you know, if you're going to pull up someone for their grasp of the English language....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Not that I was the one who commented but, you know, if you're going to pull up someone for their grasp of the English language....

My apologies for using your name, My bad.
I an sure if you you can read the quote right above my reply, and understand it . You would see that it is linked to"
" Originally Posted by panama hat "
so coming back to the grasp of the English language......

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

so coming back to the grasp of the English language......

Yes, let's . . . you still called him "evil". How is Biden a "bad choice" and "harmful or unpleasant"

You appear to be in a really shitty mood BB. Everything OK?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You appear to be in a really shitty mood BB. Everything OK?

Thank you for asking.
I have indeed been very cranky lately.
Not very happy about what is happening to Ukraine,
All the people dying and lifes compromised, the effect it will have to the remaining of my life, and my daughter's feature.
Very reminiscent of the Iraq debacle.
Have we not learned anything?
I am not going to rehash the reasons why, but I am convinced the US is playing a very dangerous game that will have disasters results for all involved .
I hope I am wrong.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

I showed you what the expression "Lesser evil" means and i showed you screen of the dictionary meaning,
What else do you want rubber biscuit?

Umm, sure . . . the meaning is clear but your supporting argument is as realistic as your rubber biscuits - neither exist.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

I am sure that point has been made more than a few times, so if you don't know by now I am afraid you never will.

It has been repeated ad nauseum by you without any basis in reality. You can constantly refer to hi as such, it still doesn't make it reality.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

I have indeed been very cranky lately.

That's very obvious - your posts have changed quite a bit.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

Have we not learned anything?

Nothing to do with you nor I, we have zero influence

Originally Posted by bsnub

Of course, you aren't, ruzzia is losing and freedom is winning.

You got to be kidding . You could not passable be that stupid. I know you walk upright and often lower your pant before you shit.
Now Fuck off, and go troll someone else.

^ its just the usual crew looking for rise to fill the gaps in their day - ignore them

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

Thank you for asking.
I have indeed been very cranky lately.
Not very happy about what is happening to Ukraine,
All the people dying and lifes compromised, the effect it will have to the remaining of my life, and my daughter's feature.
Very reminiscent of the Iraq debacle.
Have we not learned anything?
I am not going to rehash the reasons why, but I am convinced the US is playing a very dangerous game that will have disasters results for all involved .
I hope I am wrong.

Why is it the US playing a very dangerous game?

It's Putin that invaded Ukraine FFS.

We really should have should learned by now that appeasing dictators who invade countries is not a good idea.

Together, we can finish the job for the American people.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^ its just the usual crew looking for rise to fill the gaps in their day - ignore them

Says the Tory mouthpiece . . . nothing to add to this topi or BB's comments? Of course not.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Together, we can finish the job for the American people.

More like continue and pave the way rather than finish, one would hope.

Agreed.

Youngkin says he is not preparing to head out on the 2024 presidential trail ‘this year’

Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) said on Monday that he will focus on campaigning for Republicans running in Virginia’s state legislature this year when asked whether he will head out on the presidential campaign trail this year.

“No,” Youngkin told Wall Street Journal editor-at-large Gerard Baker at the Milken Institute.

“I’m going to be working in Virginia this year,” the governor said. “And so our House and Senate are up for full reelection this year. We have a House that’s controlled by Republicans and a Senate that’s controlled by Democrats.”

“I want to hold our House, and I’d like to flip our Senate. And I think we’re doing a really good job in Virginia, and I think this is a chance to bring that to voters,” he said.

However, Youngkin did not appear to directly rule out a 2024 presidential bid. A Youngkin aide told The Hill that the governor was answering Baker’s question in the context that he was focused on Virginia in 2023.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Desantis is a crafty politician.

WHOOPS! DeSantis’ memoir just handed Disney a huge gift to use against him in court.

In his book, DeSantis brags about rapidly mobilizing the state legislature to target Disney’s tax district.

And that’s not all.

Here’s why DeSantis screwed himself:

The same passage in his book declares that DeSantis’ war on Disney “happened because of the company’s ‘support of indoctrinating young schoolchildren in woke gender identity politics.

That is an ADMISSION by DeSantis that his actions are a retribution against speech opposing his legislation, the Washington Post reports. https://twitter.com/CalltoActivism/s...25469092507655

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am going to go on the record early with a daring statement.

Dems retain Senate

Would be helpful.

Democrat Colin Allred launches 2024 bid against Ted Cruz

Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas) on Wednesday announced his bid to unseat Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) in 2024.

Why it matters: Allred is the highest-profile Democrat vying to unseat Cruz, who is one of just a handful of potentially vulnerable Senate Republicans up for reelection this cycle.

Driving the news: In a video posted to social media on Wednesday, Allred took aim at Cruz’s support for baseless 2020 election fraud claims in the lead-up to Jan. 6 and his ill-fated trip to Cancun in 2021.

• “When I left the NFL, I thought my days of putting people on the ground were over. Then, Jan. 6 happened,” says Allred, while standing on a football field.
• “I took off my jacket and got ready to take on anyone who came through the door,” he continues, “And Ted Cruz? He cheered on the mob, then hid in the supply closet.”

The backdrop: Allred, a former Tennessee Titans linebacker and Obama administration official, won his House seat in 2018 by unseating Republican incumbent Pete Sessions in one of the most closely watched races in the country.

• He won a 7-point reelection victory in 2020 and was then redistricted into a safer seat, easily winning in 2022.

The other side: “Democrats have once again turned to a far-left radical to run for Senate. Not only does Colin Allred vote with Nancy Pelosi 100% of the time, but his voting record is completely out-of-touch with Texas,” Cruz campaign spokesperson Nick Maddux said in a statement.

• Cruz, a former state solicitor general, won an upset GOP primary victory for the U.S. Senate in 2012, followed by a 16-point general election win.
• However, the high-profile former presidential candidate and right-wing firebrand won reelection by just 3 points in 2018 against former Rep. Beto O’Rourke, who shattered fundraising records.

Biden seeks to flip the script on ‘freedom’ in 2024

President Biden is flipping the script on Republicans by casting himself as the protector of “freedom,” going on offense by using a word and concept conservatives have frequently cited to push back on the president and his party.

Biden’s campaign launch video was titled “Freedom,” and he referenced “freedom” or “freedoms” six times over the course of the clip. The campaign’s first official ad used those words seven times.

The president’s team has used the term aggressively to tie Republicans, and in particular his political foe Donald Trump, to the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol that some in the GOP have been reluctant to condemn and to highlight GOP efforts to curb abortion access and squash dissent in statehouses.

“It’s pretty clear the strategy here is going to be, ‘Republicans are coming after our freedoms and our ability to do X, Y and Z,” said one Democratic strategist. “Those are typically talking points Republicans use, so we are playing on their turf and winning.”

The effort puts Biden on a collision course with Trump, former Vice President Pence and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who all frequently talk about freedom even as their visions for the country diverge sharply with Biden’s.

Liz Cheney launches new ad in New Hampshire attacking Trump

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Biden campaign begins intensive outreach campaign with eye on second term

The White House is framing the 2024 campaign this way: Stability versus chaos.

And they want allies and outside groups to help spread that message.

As President Biden launches his reelection campaign, top White House aides and Democratic officials have met with allies and outside groups in closed-door sessions in recent days to discuss the president’s agenda and how he plans to win a second term, sources tell The Hill.

Allies who have attended the meetings with top officials have said a major part of Biden’s strategy is to “act presidential” to contrast with the infighting and chaos on the Republican side.

“It’s the Rose Garden strategy,” a participant in one of the meetings said, adding that Biden’s approach will be to “Be the president.”

“Let the guys on the other side have it out.”

The strategy is a similar approach to the one Biden took in 2020 when he opposed former President Donald Trump. After four years of controversy surrounding Trump, Biden campaigned on returning Washington to normal and having a president who kept his head down and intentionally remained out of the spotlight.

Biden’s approach “has more gravitas now,” one Biden ally said. “He can use the bully pulpit to also show that contrast of calm and collected versus chaotic and crazy. He can use that to his advantage.”

Biden also appears to have a more united party than in past years, they ally pointed out.

This year, after Biden launched his reelection bid, Democrats—who had appeared splintered in the last two election cycles — quickly rallied behind Biden.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who opposed Biden during the 2020 Democratic primary, rushed to endorse his former rival this year.

“The last thing this country needs is a Donald Trump or some other right-wing demagogue who is going to try to undermine American democracy or take away a woman’s right to choose, or not address the crisis of gun violence, or racism, sexism or homophobia,” Sanders told the Associated Press in an interview about his endorsement. “So, I’m in to do what I can to make sure that this president is reelected.”

Biden’s senior aides have made a concerted effort to reach out to progressives, one campaign official said, adding that the week of the campaign launch, they reached out to more than 5,000 key stakeholders across the coalition including labor unions as well as groups of African Americans, Hispanics and Asian Americans Pacific Islanders.

In one session last week, a day after Biden officially announced he was running again, prominent television analysts and strategists — including Donna Brazile and Paul Begala — gathered at the White House with some of the president’s top advisers to discuss Biden’s accomplishments and his forthcoming agenda, sources tell The Hill.

“They told us that their agenda was about stability,” the participant said. “I hadn’t heard it articulated quite that way before.”

A senior administration official said that the day-long briefings — the second time television analysts gathered this year — were scheduled over a month in advance in conjunction with the White House Correspondents Dinner when many of the invitees were in town from across the country and that the proximity to the campaign announcement occurred by happenstance.

The day included a number of briefings from senior staff on a string of issues including the president’s economic accomplishments and implementation as well as messaging around default, reproductive rights, foreign policy and Vice President Kamala Harris’s work, the senior administration official said.

The senior officials — which included White House Communications Director Ben LaBolt, Admiral John Kirby, Domestic Policy Adviser Susan Rice, Director of Legislative Affairs Louisa Terrell, Director of the National Economic Council Lael Brainard, White House counsel’s office spokesman Ian Sams, Deputy Chief of Staff Natalie Quillian, Senior Director for Transborder Security Katie Tobin as well as Stephanie Young and Kirsten Allen, senior aides to Harris — also discussed a communications strategy for the coming months. Each session included a lengthy question and answer session with the television analysts where they were able to get clarity on specific questions or share feedback.

The day ended with a happy hour in White House Chief of Staff Jeff Zients’s office.

• Scoop: VP Harris quietly convenes abortion allies for 2024

Vice President Kamala Harris has been quietly forming a small, outside group of women allies to help amplify her role as the White House's leading warrior against GOP abortion bans, Axios has learned.

Why it matters: The 2024 election gives her an even bigger lane to lead on an issue that animates large swaths of the country, helped Democrats defy the odds in the 2022 midterms and that President Biden isn't as comfortable with.

Driving the news: Harris will return to the EMILY’s List gala next week to give a keynote on abortion — just like year after the Dobbs decision leak.

• “Some Republican leaders are trying to weaponize the use of the law against women. How dare they? How dare they tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her own body?” she said at last year's gala.

The details: Harris convened a Wednesday meeting at the VP's residence, which has not been previously reported, with 14 women from across the reproductive rights space, as well as some from civil rights, faith and labor groups, per a Democratic official familiar with the situation.

• Some of the women were frequent faces for a gathering like this — Alexis McGill Johnson of Planned Parenthood; NARAL's Mini Timmaraju; EMILY's List president Laphonza Butler; and Shaunna Thomas from UltraViolet.
• Others, such as Mary Kay Henry from the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and Becky Pringle of the National Education Association, show how the VP is trying to expand this private clique of powerful women leaders.
• Harris sought input on how to bring together members from their various networks so that the White House’s message on abortion reaches across the country and doesn't get stuck in the D.C. echo chamber.
• The women also discussed how to draw interest to down-ballot races and candidates when most voters will be focused on the top of the ticket.

The backdrop: Aides and operatives say that Harris impressed during the 2022 midterms after the Dobbs decision.

• She met with nearly 200 state legislators across the country to raise the importance of protecting reproductive rights, and held related events and meetings across 38 states in the six months leading up to the election.

The state of play: The Biden-Harris ticket's first campaign video included footage of abortion rights protests around the time of the Dobbs decision.

• In it, Biden said "MAGA extremists" are "dictating what health care decisions women can make."
• Harris spoke at a rally at Howard University the night of their re-election announcement to highlight their commitment to abortion access.

Go deeper: Anita Dunn, one of the top West Wing officials, recently directed the White House political and engagement teams to schedule events with Harris where she can promote popular Democratic causes like abortion rights and infrastructure spending, per Axios' Alex Thompson.

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And another,.......as if..

• Pro-Pence super PAC launches as former VP nears decision on 2024 campaign

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Just for fun.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Desantis is a crafty politician.

• ‘Really weak option’: Wall Street sours on DeSantis as Trump challenger

Wall Street is firmly in the Never Trump camp. Finding a Republican who can make “never” happen is another question.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis had been seen as the top pick to lock down the support of financial titans who have already pumped millions into his state campaigns.

But as he stumbles through gaffes over everything from his personal demeanor and stance on Ukraine to his snacking habits, Wall Street donors are keeping the door open to his competitors, according to more than a dozen bankers, attorneys and political consultants interviewed for this story.

“People will change horses,” said Dave Carney, a veteran Republican strategist for both former Bush presidents. “You may get really excited about somebody and then all of a sudden realize, ‘Eh, not really my cup of tea.’”

Where Wall Street puts its money matters because financial industry executives are among the biggest donors in presidential elections. And while bankers and asset managers generally favor lower taxes and lighter-touch regulation, they also value stability and experience — and they spread their money around to candidates of both parties, meaning they’re very much in play in each cycle.

On paper, that should give DeSantis an advantage. People close to Wall Street donors said his national profile and powerhouse fundraising operation that has included support from hedge fund titans like Ken Griffin and Jeff Yass had positioned him as most able to survive a primary with former President Donald Trump.

DeSantis’ gubernatorial reelection campaign is still loaded with cash, giving him big advantages over possible competitors. But many now say he no longer seems so formidable — at least on Wall Street.

His escalation of a feud with the Walt Disney Co. over its opposition to what critics called the “don’t say gay” law has made for a rocky rollout to an expected presidential campaign announcement in the coming weeks. On April 26, the company announced it was suing DeSantis, saying he violated its First Amendment rights — which will force him to do battle with one of his state’s largest employers in federal court.

Little 2024 news.

Good news first.

Olympic gold-medal figure skater Sarah Hughes is running for U.S. Congress

Olympic champion Sarah Hughes is running for Congress.

The former figure skater won gold in Salt Lake City in 2002. Now she wants to represent New York's 4th Congressional District in the House of Representatives.

Hughes has yet to formally launch her campaign. But City & State New York reported that she filed to run for Congress in Long Island on Monday. Her campaign spokesman Max Kramer confirmed her intention to run to Newsday.

“Born and raised on Long Island, Sarah is concerned about where we’re headed, whether it’s rising prices, public safety and gun violence, or threats to women’s health,” Kramer's statement reads. “She’s putting the pieces into place to make an announcement in the next few weeks.”

Hughes, 38, secured her gold medal in upset fashion with a dazzling free skate at the Salt Lake Games. She stood in fourth place after the short program before climbing to the top of the standings past Russian silver medalist Irina Slutskaya and fellow American Michelle Kwan, who won bronze. She was 16 years old. No American has won gold in ladies singles since.

Since retiring from Olympic competition, Hughes attended Yale as an undergrad and Penn for law school. According to her LinkedIn bio, she's worked as an associate at a New York law firm and is currently studying at the Stanford Graduate School of Business.

Hughes intends to run as a Democrat. She'll challenge the seat held by Republican Rep. Anthony D’Esposito. The 4th District is adjacent to Hughes' hometown of Great Neck, which resides in New York's 3rd Congressional District represented by George Santos. His seat will be hotly contested after he was charged last week with federal counts of fraud, money laundering and theft of public funds.

Kramer told Newsday that Hughes is actively searching for a home in the 4th District. She'll face a Democratic primary against multiple challengers looking to unseat D’Esposito.

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Now the bad news.

Kari Lake wins if she loses her final court challenge

She’s got one last chance in court, with a trial set to begin on Wednesday.

But it’s a longshot since the judge in the case said her attorneys must prove that “Maricopa County’s higher level signature reviewers conducted no signature verification or curing and in so doing had systematically failed to materially comply with the law.”

There's a better job than Arizona governor

Being governor of a state can be like an actual, you know, job.

Lots of administrative mumbo jumbo. Negotiations. Plenty of hiring and firing and so on.

Lake has a shot at something WAY better than that: U.S. senator.

The polls taken show Lake comfortably ahead of any other Republican who might be interested in vying for their party’s nomination.

And she’s clearly interested, already having met with a gaggle of Republican senators, including the head of the Senate GOP’s campaign committee, Montana’s Steve Daines.

She would more likely be the Marjorie Taylor Greene of the Senate. Or maybe the Lauren Boebert.

If you don’t know already both (Independent) Kyrsten Sinema and (Democratic) Senate candidate Rep. Ruben Gallego svck.

Kari Lake will win if she loses her final court challenge on the election

I have read about her first day in court and she will lose

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Just for fun.

Mike Sington - Let’s review:

• Charged with 34 felony counts.
• Found liable for sexual abuse.
• Under at least 3 active criminal investigations.
• Impeached twice.
• Fired by the American people after only one term.
• Adulterer.
• Married 3 times.
•Accused of sexual assault or harassment by 27 women.
• 30,573 false or misleading statements while president.
• On tape saying he chose to downplay COVID while 424,401 Americans died.
• Has 11 associates or aides that have been charged with crimes.
• Associates with/dines with white nationalists.
• Attempted a coup on the United States to stay in office.

Yet Donald Trump is the front runner for the Republican nomination for president. https://twitter.com/MikeSington/stat...20143136858113

Joe Biden - That’s about as clear as it gets. Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans are responsible for killing Roe v. Wade. And if you vote for them, they’ll go even further. https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1658921350390530048

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Desantis is a crafty politician.

Before the session began, previous statewide polling by the Hub in February showed comfortable approval for both Governor Ron DeSantis (60% approve / 40% disapprove) and the Florida Legislature (49% favorable / 40% unfavorable).However, as the legislative session drew to a close, public opinion of the Governor’s net job approval dropped by 19 points (50% approve / 49% disapprove) and the Florida Legislature is now underwater among Floridians (43% favorable / 47% unfavorable). Additionally, while a plurality of Floridians said the state was on the right track in February (46% right track / 42% wrong track), a majority now believe the state is headed in the wrong direction (42% right track / 50% wrong track).

https://floridawatch.org/new-polling...tion-of-state/

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Democrats, long under the thumb of Ron DeSantis, are giddy the mayoral victory in Jacksonville could be the end to a long, long losing streak.

Former TV anchor Donna Deegan’s win Tuesday night in the state’s biggest city is giving the party — which doesn’t hold a single statewide office — a glimmer of hope heading into 2024, when there’s a good chance that the GOP challenger to President Joe Biden will come from Florida. Democrats say Deegan’s win is both a repudiation of DeSantis and a sign that all is not lost for them in the Sunshine state.

Even before Tuesday, Biden signaled that in his eyes, Florida, which hasn’t gone for a Democrat in a presidential election since 2012, remains a competitive battleground state despite the Republicans’ huge voter registration and cash advantage. The president’s campaign recently aired television ads in Tampa and Orlando. And in February, Biden visited Florida during a post-State of the Union swing and sent surrogates to Florida this month.

“This solidifies we are not off the map,” said Florida Democratic Party Chair Nikki Fried. “Everybody is really excited. They feel that this is a great signal and that there is something to invest in Florida.”

State Sen. Shevrin Jones, who is on Biden’s National Advisory Board, said that Deegan’s win “not only puts Florida in play but lets donors know Florida has never really been red.”

The big question, however, is whether Deegan’s win in Jacksonville is an outlier or a sign of things to come in a state that just six months ago saw Republicans crush Democrats up and down the ballot. DeSantis himself recently boasted that last year’s defeats had left Democrats a “dead carcass on the side of the road.”

Despite the psychological boost from Jacksonville, some Democrats privately cautioned about extracting too much from the win, noting that Republicans still have significant tactical advantages in the state, including having 472,000 more Republicans registered to vote, holding every statewide Cabinet position and supermajorities in the Legislature.

A person close to Biden’s campaign, who was granted anonymity to speak openly about the campaign dynamics, said Deegan’s win sends a strong message to those who counted out the president, and Democrats in general. The person contended the victory was a rejection of DeSantis, who just six months ago won the city by 12 points during the midterms. Since DeSantis won reelection, he has pushed a red meat conservative agenda ahead of his expected presidential bid, including signing a six-week abortion ban, that even some Republicans have privately fretted could cost them support among moderate Republicans.

A key part of Democrats’ optimism is due to Deegan’s defeat of Daniel Davis, a former legislator and CEO of Jacksonville’s chamber of commerce, 52 percent to 48 percent, even though Republicans edged Democrats in overall turnout by three percent. The numbers suggest that Deegan — who had gotten some GOP endorsements locally — was able to pick up independents and some crossover Republicans.

Davis had veered to the right in the lead up to the election, and Republicans targeted Deegan with ads about her participation in Black Lives Matter protests and claims she wanted to install “radical policies” if she won. The race primarily focused on local issues, such as crime and whether Davis at one point wanted to sell off the city-owned electric utility.

Deegan continually offered herself up as a change agent in a city where Democrats had only held the post of mayor once in the past three decades. But Democrats had won Jacksonville in statewide races over the past decade. Andrew Gillum, the Democratic nominee for governor, won the county in 2018, as did Biden two years later. But DeSantis soundly defeated Charlie Crist in Duval County, where Jacksonville is located, last November.

“Candidates and campaigns matter and what they say matters,” said Ashley Walker, who was the state director of President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign and worked as a consultant for Deegan. “Donna was a very genuine candidate with a very compelling message with a localized campaign that focused on very Jacksonville-based issues.”

Democrats, nationally and at the state level, did help out. The Democratic National Committee tapped volunteers to reach out to tens of thousands of voters casting mail-in ballots while state organizations helped out with phone banking.

And while DeSantis endorsed Davis, the governor didn’t hold any events with the candidate in the closing days of the campaign. DeSantis spent Friday and Saturday of last week in Iowa and Illinois attending Republican fundraisers.

Former President Donald Trump, another Florida resident, took shots at DeSantis for the Jacksonville loss, saying in a social media post on Truth Social: “Wow! In a big upset, the DeSanctimonious backed Republican candidate for Mayor of Jacksonville, Florida, LOST. This is a shocker. If they would have asked me to Endorse, he would have won, easily. Too proud to do so. Fools! This is a BIG LOSS for the Republican Party. Remember, “Rob” only won because of me!!!”

But one of Trump’s own campaign advisers — Susie Wiles — is a longtime friend and ally of Davis who informally gave him advice in his run for mayor.

Christian Ziegler, the chair of the Republican Party of Florida, contended that Deegan’s win was unique and noted that one of Davis’ GOP opponents in the March primary helped damage him ahead of the general election.

“We had a huge bloody primary where millions of dollars were spent to rip apart the eventual Republican nominee,” Ziegler said. “The clock ran out and we didn’t have enough time to recover.”

He said Democrats would be wrong to view the victory as a signal they can rebound statewide.

“Florida is a much different monster than a municipal off year,” Ziegler said.

Walker, the Deegan consultant and former Obama state director, said the lesson from Deegan’s victory — which came after a year and a half of work — is that Democrats must build up their bench by finding local races where they can notch wins.

“Democrats need to approach Florida in a very localized, piece by piece approach where we are going into purple areas,” Walker said.

Florida Democrats think the unthinkable: We'''re in play - POLITICO

For all the bollocks about "the radical extreme left", I suspect people are getting put off by DeSantis acting like the 1930's Nazi Party.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Desantis is a crafty politician.