Thread: The end of the Ayotollahs? - lets hope so - come on you ladies

Originally Posted by docmartin

And that gun will have to be a soldier's gun if there's really going to be change afoot.

...that would suggest a civil war between regular army and the Revolutionary Guard and their Basiji cannon fodder...the latter are well-funded, highly trained and desperately seeking heavenly virgins while the former are not necessarily given to martyrdom...

It is becoming a truly horrendous situation. The more women are beaten to death, the more chance the brothers, fathers and cousins of those murdered will begin to seek revenge. That is when the party really starts and hopefully the end of this disgusting repressive regime.

Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

Iran's state-run broadcaster was apparently hacked on air Saturday, with a news bulletin interrupted by a protest against the country's leader.

A mask appeared on the screen, followed by an image of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei with flames around him.

The group called itself "Adalat Ali", or Ali's Justice.

It comes after at least three people were shot dead when protesters clashed with security forces in new unrest over the death of Mahsa Amini.

Ms Amini was detained in Tehran by morality police for allegedly not covering her hair properly. The 22-year-old Iranian Kurd died in custody on 16 September, three days after her arrest.

Her death has sparked an unprecedented wave of protest across the country.

Saturday's TV news bulletin was interrupted at about 21:00 local time (17:30 GMT) with images which included Iran's supreme leader with a target on his head, photos of Ms Amini and three other women killed in recent protests.

One of the captions read "join us and rise up", whilst another said "our youths' blood is dripping off your paws".

The interruption lasted only a few seconds before being cut off.

Such displays of rebellion against Ayatollah Ali Khamenei are historically rare, and he wields almost complete power within Iran. But following Ms Amini's death, there has been some open dissent.

Also on Saturday, social media videos emerged which seemed to show female students at a university in Tehran chanting "get lost" during a visit by President Ebrahim Raisi.

Earlier in the day, two people were killed in Sanandaj, including a man shot in his car after he sounded his horn in support of protesters. A video shared online also showed a woman shot in the neck lying unconscious on the ground in Mashhad.

In Sanandaj, a police official said a man had been killed by "counter-revolutionaries", the state-run news agency IRNA reported.

On Friday, Iran's Forensic Medicine Organisation said Ms Amini had died from multiple organ failure caused by cerebral hypoxia - and not from blows to the head, as her family and protesters contend.

Rights groups say more than 150 people have been killed since the protests in the Islamic Republic began on 17 September.

Shops in several cities have shut in support of the protesters, including in Tehran's bazaar where some set fire to a police kiosk and chased the security forces away.

The protests reaching the bazaar in Tehran will ring alarm bells with Iranian leaders who have counted the merchants as among their supporters

Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters - BBC News

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

Yes for sure.. these women don't seem to have a choice which you don't really see much in this world. Even in Saudi they are becoming more open and even allow women to drive now.

As October is Islamic Heritage Month in Canada, is there much discussion about changing (or keeping) Islamic traditions and beliefs in Canada at the mo?

Originally Posted by Neverna

As October is Islamic Heritage Month in Canada, is there much discussion about changing (or keeping) Islamic traditions and beliefs in Canada at the mo?

You'd probably be charged with a hate crime for bringing it up.

Many women in different countries are fed up and protested along with the Iranians after Amini's death.

Originally Posted by Neverna

is there much discussion about changing (or keeping) Islamic traditions and beliefs in Canada at the mo?

I haven't heard anything, but there was a huge issue about nine months ago when a female teacher was fired because she was wearing a hijab at school in Quebec.

Bill 21 which bars some public servants from wearing religious symbols is still in play as of 2019. I believe it should be a choice for these women and think this bill should be thrown out the window.

Outrage as Quebec teacher removed from classroom for wearing hijab | Canada | The Guardian.

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

this bill should be thrown out the window.

Along with hijabs.

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

Bill 21 which bars some public servants from wearing religious symbols is still in play as of 2019. I believe it should be a choice for these women and think this bill should be thrown out the window.

So, you support wearing religious garb for teachers, police etc...
A full burqa-wearing cop pulling you over. Face fully obscured. It's their choice. Sure.

The bill wasn't anti-Muslim, it affects everyone.

It’s a pity that the wildly erotic monobrow is generally visible ...

Originally Posted by pickel

Along with hijabs.

So you don’t believe in choice?

Originally Posted by pickel

Along with hijabs.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

So you don’t believe in choice?

The problem is whose choice is it? The womans, or her husbands, or her families, or just the fact she has been brain washed since early childhood. I believe you should be a legal adult before being allowed to join a religion. It should be a choice as an adult. I have never influenced my children other than answering their questions as best I can. They were all told it is something they can seek out as they choose when adults and can form their own opinions as to what path they follow.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

They were all told it is something they can seek out as they choose when adults and can form their own opinions as to what path they follow.

...there may be some hesitation if that path leads to male circumcision: best to get the snip when too small to resist...

Originally Posted by panama hat

So, you support wearing religious garb for teachers, police etc...
A full burqa-wearing cop pulling you over. Face fully obscured. It's their choice. Sure.

I believe in free choice. You don't see many niqabs on women as police officers around here.
In Quebec province, full face coverings are banned and there are some other countries where they are also banned like France, Belgium and Austria.

Most other provinces in Canada are in align with Trudeau's thinking in that it should be free choice as to what women wear in regards to religious symbols.

I read that the European has left it up to employers to make their own rules on banning wearing religious symbols.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

The problem is whose choice is it? The womans, or her husbands, or her families, or just the fact she has been brain washed since early childhood. I believe you should be a legal adult before being allowed to join a religion. It should be a choice as an adult. I have never influenced my children other than answering their questions as best I can. They were all told it is something they can seek out as they choose when adults and can form their own opinions as to what path they follow.

That's a whole other conversation lol.
She was probably taught from an early age that part of her religion/culture wears hijabs, and many women from different countries choose to still wear them even in a western place like Canada.. and some choose not to.

Free choice is exactly that. As it should be. If people want to wander about dressed as koalas or wearing a cardboard box well whatever.
But the covering-up doesn't work to control vile male lusts (lesbians aren't affected of course ...).
Years ago in western Sydney I saw two young women walking into the wind towards me. The wind pressed the (thin cloth) bags they were wearing against their bodies and faces and it was clearly obvious to an old perve that they had fine bodies and faces. Pffft. Marrying first cousins generation after generation doesn't do much for mental acuity.

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

I believe in free choice. You don't see many niqabs on women as police officers around here.

Fair enough but that doesn't address the issue of identification. When niqab/burqa wearing women enter Singapore or Malaysia they have to discard the fac ecovering part for identification - there's a reason for that.

If religious garb is not allowed then that is fine in a public institution as it addresses everyone.

^I believe in Canada they have to show their face when being sworn in as a Canadian citizen , but that's about it. In Quebec they are banned altogether.
No, I don't agree that the woman teacher I was talking about should have lost her job. She was wearing a hijab, and not a burqa. It isn't right at all and goes against our Charter of Basic Human rights. You can agree to disagree that's fine.

It is hard to justify that when everyone is wearing face coverings these days...

Originally Posted by panama hat

When niqab/burqa wearing women enter Singapore or Malaysia they have to discard the fac ecovering part for identification - there's a reason for that.

That makes perfect sense.
I work with muslims all the time. I teach many Arab kids, and I don't even think twice when I see women staff wearing hijabs. That is their religion and choice. They don't push their religion or culture on me, and I don't question them or speak to them about religion.

Originally Posted by panama hat

A full burqa-wearing cop pulling you over.

Is she alone ?

In the countryside, right ?

Originally Posted by helge

Is she alone ?

In the countryside, right ?

It's happened to you, too????


Of course that's exaggerated . . . wear whatever but the face should remain uncovered. I've lived and worked in several Muslim and Muslim majority countries, not an issue.

Originally Posted by panama hat

It's happened to you, too????

In my dreams only

Gotta turn in. Bye

Originally Posted by panama hat

It's happened to you, too????


Of course that's exaggerated . . . wear whatever but the face should remain uncovered. I've lived and worked in several Muslim and Muslim majority countries, not an issue.

And how did that work during COVID?