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    Catholic? Devoted or will you Disavow your evil doctrine?


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    Sure. Its all bullshit.

    But it is just funny how so many anti catholic atheists disavow it but they still carry the whole ethic and worldview with them. If you are really anti Christian then it is only consistent that you are a determinist who does not believe in free will. I dont believe in free will.

    Free will is a supernatural belief. Choice is an illusion to our consciousness caused by our ignorance of causality in human behavior.

    Last edited by Backspin; 19-08-2022 at 11:28 PM.

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    in case you didn't watch the video, this is about Catholicism, not Christianity as a whole.
    Are you catholic?

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    I was a Catholic and I'd quite happily shit on the Popes pontiff.

    In fact all religious indoctrination can fvck off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Christopher Hitchens' epic opening statement (Must see)
    Must see? FFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    If you are really anti Christian then it is only consistent that you are a determinist who does not believe in free will. I dont believe in free will.
    Actually, it isn't . . . but keep up your diatribe, you can't look any more stupid.


    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Free will is a supernatural belief. Choice is an illusion to our consciousness caused by our ignorance of causality in human behavior.
    Where did you read this, Backspit? You know you didn't write it, let alone think of it.

    Ok, free will is an innate belief, not supernatural, i.e. it is not something that isn't natural. Choice is something we are confronted with daily, in your case this is missing, hence your utter continued bullshit.



    Catholicism is a doctrine, like most other faith-based beliefs. It helps many people wade through and cope with life . . . it has been used for evil . . . individuals have misused it . . . it has been used for good.

    All-out condemnation is as pathetic as blind belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Sure. Its all bullshit.

    But it is just funny how so many anti catholic atheists disavow it but they still carry the whole ethic and worldview with them. If you are really anti Christian then it is only consistent that you are a determinist who does not believe in free will. I dont believe in free will.

    Free will is a supernatural belief. Choice is an illusion to our consciousness caused by our ignorance of causality in human behavior.

    You are purporting to follow the views of other people. These are not you opinions. They are ideals expressed by other which you latched onto, without any understanding.

    You will find opinions on you tube and in the twittersphere. Too late for you to try and understand it all with your lack of education. All you will ever be is a surface skimmer for anything that sparkles, however briefly.

    I can empathize because you will only ever have a childish intellect that lacks depth, desperately clutching at straws for comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    you are really anti Christian then it is only consistent that you are a determinist who does not believe in free will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    I'd quite happily shit on the Popes pontiff.
    That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    Just as daft as backspit’s nonsensical

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    Fuck the Catholic church. That whole institution should have been disbanded and its assets seized to compensate the victims of these odious paedophiles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I dont believe in free will.
    Did someone force you to write that, Backspit?


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Fuck the Catholic church. That whole institution should have been disbanded and its assets seized to compensate the victims of these odious paedophiles.
    That’s a lot of anger wrapped up in that religious rant against Catholiscm.

    Were you a victim of abuse yourself?

    FFS don’t tell us it was a Chinky/Russian priest.

    You may just be fantasising a bit too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    FFS don’t tell us it was a Chinky/Russian priest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    That’s a lot of anger wrapped up in that religious rant against Catholiscm.
    Not really, it's a simple statement of fact.

    Are you a member of this disgusting "faith"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Catholicism is a doctrine, like most other faith-based beliefs. It helps many people wade through and cope with life . . . i
    This...

    ...and no, I'm not a Catholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    This...

    ...and no, I'm not a Catholic.
    Do you believe in free will ?

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    ^ I believe people should have moral responsibility for their actions and free will as defined by compatibilism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    If anything you should be able to ascertain why religious ppl don't like this "no free will" stuff.

    Last edited by Backspin; 21-08-2022 at 02:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    This...

    ...and no, I'm not a Catholic.
    If you'd ever flown over Angeles and seen the hovels surrounding the hugely expensive carbuncle they built with money the local population could little afford, I doubt you'd say that.

    The world would be much better off without these paedophile spongers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If you'd ever flown over Angeles and seen the hovels surrounding the hugely expensive carbuncle they built with money the local population could little afford, I doubt you'd say that.

    The world would be much better off without these paedophile spongers.
    Do you believe in free will ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Free will
    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Do you believe in free will ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    free will
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    Do you believe in free will ?
    FoB/s/S

    Clearly you lack the mental agility to have any free will.

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    Though I am an Atheist and sympathetic to his views
    These Christopher Hitchens debates ( I have watched all of them) , though entertaining , seem to me to be rehearsed by both parties, and scripted . An entertained show that was monetizing the issue.
    Hitchens always opened with the same tired line thanking the presenter but calling the introduction" terse" , exactly the same line every time..
    He always used the clever argument "Good people do good , and bad people do bad, it takes religion to make good people do bad" You would think that the opponents in preparation would have watched previous debates , would have heard this argument and would be prepared with the obvious response.
    You would think but you would be wrong. I have never heard an opponent come back with the obvious "and bad people do good"
    Every debate was the same script.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    I believe in free will, except that certain god botherers with their own TV stations, big mansions and cars, seem to be very successful, persuading supplicants to part with their hard earned.

    Radical Muslims might be better served by giving women the same educational opportunities that Muslim men enjoy. Those men are scared to lose their control to mere females.

    What worries you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    Are you a member of this disgusting "faith"?
    Whilst I do not agree with it being a disgusting “faith” I was brought up Catholic.
    I rejected the faith at 15 years of age in favour of atheism.

    I personally never witnessed, nor heard of any sexual abuses whilst growing up.

    What is your “faith” Harry?

    Do all Catholics disgust you?

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