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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Link? Trump wasn't there.
    he did not redact their names when he published the warrant

    Trump Leaks FBI Warrant to Breitbart, Doxxing Agents Who Led Mar-A-Lago Search [VIDEO]

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell speaks to Neal Katyal, former acting U.S. Solicitor General, Andrew Weissmann, former FBI General Counsel, and Bradley Moss, a national security attorney, about what we can learn from the newly released Trump search warrant and why Donald Trump’s newest explanation for the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago makes no sense.

    Yes, good discussion. He's wriggling like a fish on the hook.

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    Serious stuff.

    "This stuff cannot leave government facilities"
    "Raises the question what did Trump want with these documents"


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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    ^ That is a crap interview.
    Agree with you, but as are most NaGAstan media videos.

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    "Trump's own lawyer was present during the raid,"
    If you had watched the video you may have been better informed.

    From the video:

    The lawyer as asked specific questions .

    For eample:

    'When she was told of the raid and when she arrived."

    "What she saw, whether she was allowed in to observe what was going on, and denied entry."

    She states when she was informed and by whom, when she arrived and what she saw: boxes were already down in the car park/being loaded into trucks.

    Implying the lawyer was not present/"during" the entire raid.

    She then went to a different access point, "the door of the ballroom" and told by another unnamed FBI officer, "She was not allowed into the property", "told to wait, until they were done"

    She is asked. "If she had seen the warrant itself?" and states she had seen the warrant, "that day, Sunday".

    She also stated she "had not seen the complete warrant, just the "document request" She was aware that: "the warrant and affidavit' were under seal by a judge."

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    But the question of " ... and signed off on the confiscated items seized by the FBI" was not even raised
    That question, or her reply, were not in the video I posted.

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    She seems rather clueless,
    Rather clueless. Bitches bitching away.

    Aha, why, why,why, did she not start crying, did she not ask for a toilet break, did she not state she had to leave early to pick her daughter from kindergarten, did she not uncross her legs, surely she would have used all these feminal distractions. If she was a real woman, eh?


    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    not a thought running through her head,
    I suspect, she is well aware, of how to ask and answer questions, in a court of law.

    On the contrary, she, a lawyer, replied to specific questions clearly and in her opinion, fully.

    Coached or not, she replied to all the questions put to her. Which is not unusual for an experienced lawyer, being asked questions, in any NaGastn court case.
    Last edited by OhOh; 13-08-2022 at 06:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    If you had watched the video you may have been better informed.
    This is drumpf's lawyer...

    Trump steals nuclear secrets.-fzbfbpsxeaisbds-jpg

    That is her on the far right. How ironic.


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    The point is, regardless, she (?) signed what they are calling the receipt for the retrieved stolen items.
    There is no dispute the documents retrieved from MaraLago are government documents, many highly classified, that Trump had no business being in possession of.
    (Is there?)
    By the way HOHO, watch the video in post #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    1/ If you had watched the video you may have been better informed.

    From the video:

    The lawyer as asked specific questions .

    For eample:

    'When she was told of the raid and when she arrived."

    "What she saw, whether she was allowed in to observe what was going on, and denied entry."

    She states when she was informed and by whom, when she arrived and what she saw: boxes were already down in the car park/being loaded into trucks.

    2/ Implying the lawyer was not present/"during" the entire raid.

    3/ She then went to a different access point, "the door of the ballroom" and told by another unnamed FBI officer, "She was not allowed into the property", "told to wait, until they were done"

    She is asked. "If she had seen the warrant itself?" and states she had seen the warrant, "that day, Sunday".

    She also stated she "had not seen the complete warrant, just the "document request" She was aware that: "the warrant and affidavit' were under seal by a judge."

    That question, or her reply, were not in the video I posted.

    OK, you assume too much.

    The Facts:-

    1/ I did watch the video, otherwise I wouldn't have commented on it.

    2/ No, Trump's Lawyer wasn't there from the time the warrant was executed till the FBI Agents left the building. But, the implication was that she was there for a significant part of it.

    Now, think about it for a sec. The FBI is executing a search warrant. Say it was a drug bust. The FBI has the legal right to enter and search under the terms of that Warrant ... do you think they are going to phone the Lawyer of the person who is occupying the premises?

    The FBI, in executing their warrant owe no duty of care to Trump's Lawyer, even if they knew who he/she/ it was. Trump changes Lawyers more often than a Beach Road Bar Girl changes her knickers! Plus Trump has so many Law Suites against him, he has multiple Lawyers.

    3/ Of course she was denied entry to the structure being investigated, the FBI were just doing their job. She was allowed onto the property, just not into the structure.
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Aug 14, 2022 The Washington Post is reporting that the FBI was looking for missing documents related to nuclear weapons.
    That's according to people familiar with the investigation.
    If true, why would the former President keep those documents and what was he planning to do with them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    By the way HOHO, watch the video in post #53
    My minute "understanding" is that there have been previous "discussions" between Mr Trump and whoever was interested in his "documents". As:

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Aug 14, 2022 The Washington Post is reporting that the FBI was looking for missing documents related to nuclear weapons.
    posts

    Is so, whatever was not removed previously, was known by the government participants. I assume Mr. Trump would be unable to select and take home anything, post being replaced as POTUS.

    As for the discussion in the video, lots of unproven allegations from possibly involved persons, with an agenda.

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    she was there for a significant part of it
    Thank you for reading my post and replying.

    At the "property", yes she states that, but not allowed to into the rooms being searched, or checking which documents were taken.

    As for what % of the time she was there, waiting out side the property or by locked, FBI guarded doors, whilst the raid was happening, she doesn't say anything. She said a very vague "today".

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    do you think they are going to phone the Lawyer of the person who is occupying the premises?
    No. But I suspect the accused are able to call a lawyer, to be legally represented/advised of their rights, at any time. Prior or post arrest ?

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Trump changes Lawyers more often
    I have no knowledge of Mr Trumps hiring or firing, myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Of course she was denied entry to the structure being investigated,
    That question was answere by her, in the video.

    The video questioner asked her why, "She was not allowed into the "structure/building/hotel .... and at 2:36 in my posted video, he quoted his legal source had informed him, "there is no legal basis to deny access to a warrant search, unless the person was, interfering with the ability of the FBI, too search". The lawyer states, "she was definitely not doing that" and she added that another reason by which the FBI could have stopped her, was "the safety of the agents".

    Whether her statement is true, I leave to NaGastan lawyers to decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    That's according to people familiar with the investigation.
    If true, why would the former President keep those documents and what was he planning to do with them?
    I'm astounded as you are that anybody, POTUS included, is allowed to take any government document out of a presumed official, guarded, secured room, let alone to their home/structure/building/hotel.

    But some countries have funny "rules".

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    Trump Lawyer Told Justice Dept. That Classified Material Had Been Returned

    At least one lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump signed a written statement in June asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government, four people with knowledge of the document said.


    The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division.

    The existence of the signed declaration, which has not previously been reported, is a possible indication that Mr. Trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material. And it could help explain why a potential violation of a criminal statute related to obstruction was cited by the department as one basis for seeking the search warrant used to carry out the daylong search of the former president’s home on Monday, an extraordinary step that generated political shock waves.


    It also helps to further explain the sequence of events that prompted the Justice Department’s decision to conduct the search after months in which it had tried to resolve the matter through discussions with Mr. Trump and his team.


    An inventory of the material taken from Mr. Trump’s home that was released on Friday showed that F.B.I. agents had seized 11 sets of documents during the search with some type of confidential or secret marking on them, including some marked as “classified/TS/SCI” — shorthand for “top secret/sensitive compartmented information.” Information categorized in that fashion is meant to be viewed only in a secure government facility.


    The search encompassed not just the storage area where boxes of material known to the Justice Department were being held but also Mr. Trump’s office and residence. The search warrant and inventory unsealed on Friday did not specify where in the Mar-a-Lago complex the documents marked as classified were found.


    Mr. Trump said on Friday that he had declassified all the material in his possession while he was still in office. He did not provide any documentation that he had done so.

    A spokesman for the former president, Taylor Budowich, said on Saturday, “Just like every Democrat-fabricated witch hunt previously, the water of this unprecedented and unnecessary raid is being carried by a media willing to run with suggestive leaks, anonymous sources and no hard facts.”


    The search warrant said F.B.I. agents were carrying out the search to look for evidence related to possible violations of the Espionage Act and a statute that bars the unlawful taking or destruction of government records or documents, as well as of the obstruction law. No one has been charged in the case, and the search warrant on its own does not mean anyone will be.


    Last year, officials with the National Archives discovered that Mr. Trump had taken a slew of documents and other government material with him when he left the White House at the end of his tumultuous term in January 2021. That material was supposed to have been sent to the archives under the terms of the Presidential Records Act.


    Mr. Trump returned 15 boxes of material in January of this year. When archivists examined the material, they found many pages of documents with classified markings and referred the matter to the Justice Department, which began an investigation and convened a grand jury.


    In the spring, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to Mr. Trump seeking further documents believed to be in his possession. He was repeatedly urged by advisers to return what remained, despite what they described as his desire to continue to hold onto some documents.


    In an effort to resolve the dispute, Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago in early June, briefly meeting Mr. Trump. Two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, spoke with Mr. Bratt and a handful of investigators he traveled with, people briefed on the meeting said.


    Mr. Corcoran and Ms. Bobb showed Mr. Bratt and his team boxes holding material Mr. Trump had taken from the White House that were being kept in a storage area, the people said.


    According to two people briefed on the visit, Mr. Bratt and his team left with additional material marked classified, and around that time also obtained the written declaration from a Trump lawyer attesting that all the material marked classified in the boxes had been turned over.


    A short time after the meeting, according to people briefed on it, Mr. Bratt sent Mr. Corcoran an email telling him to get a more secure padlock for the room. Mr. Trump’s team complied.


    The Justice Department also subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago, including views from outside the storage room. According to a person briefed on the matter, the footage prompted concern among investigators about the handling of the material. It is not clear what time period that footage was from.


    Over recent months, investigators were in contact with roughly a half-dozen of Mr. Trump’s current aides who had knowledge of how the documents were handled, two people briefed on the approaches said. At least one witness provided the investigators with information that led them to want to further press Mr. Trump for material, according to a person familiar with the inquiry.


    Concern about Mr. Trump’s cavalier handling of classified information dates back to the early days of his administration. When Mr. Trump left office, President Biden quickly took the extraordinary step of barring him from receiving the intelligence briefings traditionally provided to former presidents, saying that Mr. Trump could not be trusted because of his “erratic behavior.”


    The security of classified information at Mar-a-Lago was also a concern for government officials even while Mr. Trump was in office. During his presidency, the government built what is known as a SCIF — a sensitive compartmented information facility — for Mr. Trump’s use while he was at the club.


    On Thursday, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland made a public statement saying he had personally authorized a search warrant being executed on Mr. Trump’s property, and he indicated that the Justice Department would only have made such a move after trying less invasive measures.


    Shortly before Mr. Garland made the announcement, a person close to Mr. Trump reached out to a Justice Department official to pass along a message from the former president to the attorney general. Mr. Trump wanted Mr. Garland to know he had been checking in with people around the country and found them to be enraged by the search.


    “The country is on fire,” Mr. Trump said, according to a person familiar with the exchange. “What can I do to reduce the heat?”


    The following day, as a judge unsealed the warrant and the inventory of items that the F.B.I. took, Mr. Trump alternately claimed he did nothing wrong and also made the baseless statement that officials may have planted evidence on him.

    Trump Lawyer Told Justice Dept. That Classified Material Had Been Returned – DNyuz

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    “ But some countries have funny "rules".“

    it was against the rules, numb nuts.

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    Cracks emerge in GOP’s Mar-a-Lago response

    Republicans are dividing over how or whether to defend former President Trump after the FBI's search of Mar-a-Lago — and what to do about some members' heated rhetoric toward law enforcement.


    Why it matters: Documents released Friday bolster reports that the search involved highly classified materials believed stored in violation of the law at the ex-president's private residence.


    Driving the news: Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee held a press conference on Friday, before the release, in which they continued to cast the search as politically motivated.


    But even some Intelligence Committee Republicans who participated struck a more measured tone in interviews afterward.
    And according to the New York Times, Trump allies have told top Republicans to tone down their criticism of the Justice Department "because it is possible that more damaging information related to the search will become public."
    What they're saying: Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) called the search a "complete abuse," suggesting it was because Trump is "Joe Biden's most likeliest political opponent in 2024." Other members re-litigated past grievances against the FBI over Russiagate, the 2017 Congressional Baseball shooting and the Hillary Clinton email scandal.


    “You can say nuclear weapons, but there are things that are highly, highly classified, there are things that are not extremely classified," ranking member Mike Turner (R-Ohio) said.
    After the search, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) began calling to "defund the FBI," and Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) tweeted: "I will support a complete dismantling and elimination of the democrat brown shirts known as the FBI."
    The other side: "It's incumbent upon everybody to act in a way that's becoming of the office they hold," said Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.), a former FBI agent, "And that's not casting judgment on anything until you know all the facts."


    Fitzpatrick said his call for transparency about the search is grounded in a desire to restore the FBI's credibility: "There's nothing I want more than the American public to love the FBI."
    Rep. Chris Stewart (R-Utah) told Politico: “I mean, if he had actual Special Access Programs — do you know how extraordinarily sensitive that is? ... If that were actually at his residence, that would be a problem."
    The big picture: The attacks right-wing members have lobbed against the FBI and DOJ have polarized some Republican colleagues amid rising threats to federal law enforcement and an attack on an FBI building in Ohio.


    "I'm impressed Democrats finally got us to say, 'Defund the FBI,'" Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas) told Axios. "That makes you look unserious, when you start talking like that."
    House Homeland Security Committee ranking member John Katko (R-N.Y.) said, "This is not something you rush to judgment on ... It's incumbent upon everybody to take a deep breath."
    What's next: Many Republicans are calling for the Justice Department to also release of the affidavit in support of the warrant, which so far has not been made public.


    "The warrant, you can't fit much on there," Fitzpatrick said. "Everything is going to be in that affidavit."
    Katko said if the affadavit isn't made public "at least give it to us in a classified setting."

    Cracks emerge in GOP’s Mar-a-Lago response

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    t was against the rules
    Selective, "Mordor" rules:

    "One ring to rule them all.

    One
    ring to find them.

    One
    ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."

    J. R. R. Tolkien.


    Applied and applicable to all NaGastan citizens, or just one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Agree with you, but as are most NaGAstan media videos.

    If you had watched the video you may have been better informed.
    Your opinion is childish and stupid as always.
    Let's remember that OhOh is a Putler & Xi supporter. All videos and questions concerning your idols are prefabricated/predetermined. AND YOU BELIEVE IT!

    So who are you to tell us something here on this forum. It's like interviewing Putler about human rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Trump may have finally been trumped. Please have a look, you will enjoy.

    Scary how stupid Republicans are.

    When will Trump flee the country? Where will he go to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    This is drumpf's lawyer...

    Trump steals nuclear secrets.-fzbfbpsxeaisbds-jpg

    That is her on the far right. How ironic.

    There is one poster here who likes blondes and will jerk off to this picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Applied and applicable to all NaGastan citizens, or just one?
    Your simplistic attempt at faux-intellectualism fail yet again

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee
    Sent this to google as example of an oxymoron.

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    I'm sure the former president will denounce any violence committed due to his legal woes.

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    ^^ Cujo, that was a good video to watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    ^^ Cujo, that was a good video to watch
    Yes I'm sure
    oops, that was for Topper ^^

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    Is this the same guy who said the Mexicans were going to pay for the wall. Refused to put his tax records on public record (so he didnt have to show he was a tax dodger) Said the election was stolen despite all evidence to the contrary. Took no responsibility for the storming of the capitol, said people who quote the 5th have something to hide and then quoted the 5th. Now he says there's nothing to see here its a political witch hunt.....I believe him.

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    ^ Yes, the same. Who'da thunk it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Refused to put his tax records on public record
    More to come on that...

    Appeals court says House can obtain Trump's taxes from the IRS - CNNPolitics

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