Thread: Trump steals nuclear secrets.

Originally Posted by beachbound

I doubt it. Barron has rice pudding between his ears.

Exactly. They probably turned him with a Cadbury's Creme Egg and a Nintendo.

My money is still on Melania . . .

Originally Posted by panama hat

My money is still on Melania . . .

No, they said it was someone "close to" baldy orange cunto.

I don't think she even sleeps in the same room as tiny mushroom dick.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No, they said it was someone "close to" baldy orange cunto.

One of the late night show's host made a joke along those lines.

Originally Posted by Topper

One of the late night show's host made a joke along those lines.

Yes I know, and I posted it at the time.

I'm just recycling it, to be green and all.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No, they said it was someone "close to" baldy orange cunto.

True, good point . . .

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Even if convicted, the next GOP President will probably pardon Trump.

Just hoping he is convicted of a State crime.
Federal pardons issued by the president apply only to federal offenses; they do not apply to state or local offenses or private civil offenses.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Despite all this Trump is presently purging the GOP candidate list from any remaining reasonable and sensible people.

This is working out well for the Democrats in the coming midterm elections.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Even if convicted, the next GOP President will probably pardon Trump.

There is no guarantee of that at this point. The GOP are a bunch of spineless worms, and they are already close to jumping ship.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Just hoping he is convicted of a State crime.

The heat is ratcheting up and that could be a distinct possibility in both New York and Georgia.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Despite all this Trump is presently purging the GOP candidate list from any remaining reasonable and sensible people

According to the smartest of his supporters this is a cunning plan that we do not understand because trump is a genius

Originally Posted by bsnub

This is working out well for the Democrats in the coming midterm elections.

Get ready for them to lose the House and for a Hunter Biden/Burisma/Fuck knows what else investigation until 2024 when it will mysteriously disappear.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Get ready for them to lose the House

The way it is shaping up, the Dems could pick up some seats in the senate. The GOP put up some real shit candidates.

Originally Posted by bsnub

The way it is shaping up, the Dems could pick up some seats in the senate. The GOP put up some real shit candidates.

I know, and it would be great if Manchin and Sinema suddenly became irrelevant, but lose the house and the GOP will still be doing their fucking usual.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

but lose the house and the GOP will still be doing their fucking usual.

It just means nothing will get done during those two years. But if the Dems hold the Senate, then at least the GOP can not unravel the Inflation Reduction Act.

Trump sues to block DOJ from reviewing materials FBI seized at Mar-a-Lago until watchdog appointed

Former President Donald Trump in a new lawsuit Monday asking that a federal judge appoint a special watchdog to review documents seized from his Florida home as part of a criminal investigation of the removal of White House records when he left office in January 2021.


Trump’s lawsuit, which suggests the Aug. 8 FBI raid was politically motivated, also asks that the Department of Justice be blocked from “further review of seized materials” from his Mar-a-Lago residence until the so-called special master is appointed to review the documents.


Special masters are appointed in criminal cases when there is a concern that some material seized by authorities should not be viewed by investigators because it is protected by attorney-client privilege or other factors that weigh against it being used in a prosecution.


Special masters were appointed to review materials seized in federal criminal probes of two of Trump’s former personal attorneys, Michael Cohen and Rudy Giuliani.

Trump’s suit in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida accuses the federal government of violating his Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures with the raid, which is believed to be the first time the home of a former president was searched in connection with a criminal case.


In addition to seeking a special master, the suit asks that the DOJ be required to provide him with a more detailed inventory of property seized at the Palm Beach resort.


And it requests that the government return any seized item that was not within the scope of the search warrant authorizing the raid.


“This Mar-a-Lago Break-In, Search, and Seizure was illegal and unconstitutional,” Trump said in a written statement released after the complaint was filed.


“And we are taking all actions necessary to get the documents back, which we would have given to them without the necessity of the despicable raid of my home, so that I can give them to the National Archives until they are required for the future Donald J. Trump Presidential Library and Museum,” he added.


DOJ spokesman Anthony Coley, in a statement on Trump’s action, said, “The Aug. 8 search warrant at Mar-a-Lago was authorized by a federal court upon the required finding of probable cause. The Department is aware of this evening’s motion. The United States will file its response in court.”

The lawsuit comes as a federal magistrate judge in that same court is considering arguments by media organizations to unseal the FBI affidavit that substantiated the need for a search warrant.


That warrant indicated that authorities are investigating potential violations of laws related to espionage and obstruction of justice. Multiple sets of documents marked top secret were seized in the raid, according to court documents.


The DOJ is scheduled by Thursday to file suggestions for redacting portions of the warrant.


Trump’s lawsuit called the raid “a shockingly aggressive move” by about two dozen FBI agents, which was done “with no understanding of the distress that it would cause most Americans.”


“Law enforcement is a shield that protects Americans. It cannot be used as a weapon for political purposes,” says the complaint. “Therefore, we seek judicial assistance in the aftermath of an unprecedented and unnecessary raid on President Trump’s home at Mar-a-Lago.”


The suit says that Trump “is the clear frontrunner” in both the 2024 Republican presidential primary and general election, “should he decide to run.”


“Politics cannot be allowed to impact the administration of justice,” the suit says.


It also says that the government told Trump’s counsel that “privileged and/or potentially privileged documents” were among the items seized.


But the government to date has “refused to provide any information regarding the nature of these documents,” the complaint says.


The suit argues that there was no reason for the FBI to raid Trump’s home because he was cooperating with the authorities who were looking to retrieve the records from the residence.


After 15 boxes of records were retrieved from Mar-a-Lago earlier this year, Trump’s lawyers communicated with authorities from the White House, National Archives and Justice Department regarding documents that were allegedly “protected by executive privilege,” the suit says.


In May, according to the complaint, Trump “voluntarily” accepted a grand jury subpoena for his office’s record-keeper, seeking documents with classified markings.


Trump decided to conduct a search for responsive records, and he then “invited the FBI to come to Mar-a-Lago” to retrieve them, the complaint said.


On June 3, top DOJ counterintelligence official Jay Bratt came to Mar-a-Lago with three other agents, and Trump “greeted them in the dining room,” the suit said.


Trump then left the agents with Trump’s record-keeper and counsel, adding, “Whatever you need, just let us know,” according to the complaint.


“Once back in the dining room, one of the FBI agents said, ‘Thank you. You did not need to show us the storage room, but we appreciate it. Now it all makes sense,’ ” according to the suit.


“Counsel for President Trump then closed the interaction and advised the Government officials that they should contact him with any further needs on the matter.”


In that storage room were “boxes, many containing the clothing and personal items of President Trump and the First Lady,” the lawsuit said.


On June 8, Bratt asked Trump’s counsel to secure that storage room, and Trump accordingly “directed his staff to place a second lock on the door,” according to the complaint.


In a phone call three days after the raid, the suit says, Trump’s counsel delivered a message to Bratt: “President Trump wants the Attorney General to know that he has been hearing from people all over the country about the raid If there was one word to describe their mood, it is ‘angry.’ The heat is building up. The pressure is building up. Whatever I can do to take the heat down, to bring the pressure down, just let me know.”

Trump sues to block DOJ from Mar-a-Lago FBI raid material

so it will come as no surprise to find out that trump sold nuclear secrets to the saudis for 4 billion

Originally Posted by misskit

In May, according to the complaint, Trump “voluntarily” accepted a grand jury subpoena for his office’s record-keeper, seeking documents with classified markings.


Trump decided to conduct a search for responsive records, and he then “invited the FBI to come to Mar-a-Lago” to retrieve them, the complaint said.


On June 3, top DOJ counterintelligence official Jay Bratt came to Mar-a-Lago with three other agents, and Trump “greeted them in the dining room,” the suit said.


Trump then left the agents with Trump’s record-keeper and counsel, adding, “Whatever you need, just let us know,” according to the complaint.


“Once back in the dining room, one of the FBI agents said, ‘Thank you. You did not need to show us the storage room, but we appreciate it. Now it all makes sense,’ ” according to the suit.


“Counsel for President Trump then closed the interaction and advised the Government officials that they should contact him with any further needs on the matter.”


In that storage room were “boxes, many containing the clothing and personal items of President Trump and the First Lady,” the lawsuit said.


On June 8, Bratt asked Trump’s counsel to secure that storage room, and Trump accordingly “directed his staff to place a second lock on the door,” according to the complaint.


In a phone call three days after the raid, the suit says, Trump’s counsel delivered a message to Bratt: “President Trump wants the Attorney General to know that he has been hearing from people all over the country about the raid If there was one word to describe their mood, it is ‘angry.’ The heat is building up. The pressure is building up. Whatever I can do to take the heat down, to bring the pressure down, just let me know.”

Trump sues to block DOJ from Mar-a-Lago FBI raid material

What a load of utter BS.
Let's not forget that the seized documents never belonged to him in the first place. He stole them.

I wonder why it took two weeks to ask for a special master? I'm guessing everything that needed to be read from what the FBI took has been looked at by now. It's the shit he does to get a response out of his base.

Originally Posted by Topper

It's the shit he does to get a response out of his base.

Bingo, every single time!

Originally Posted by beachbound

I doubt it. Barron has rice pudding between his ears.

Interesting because I haven't heard a word about him one way or the other. What makes you think that?

Agency identified 700-plus pages of classified records at Trump's home

WASHINGTON, Aug 23 (Reuters) - The U.S. National Archives discovered more than 700 pages of classified documents at Donald Trump's Florida home in addition to material seized this month by FBI agents, according to a May letter that the records agency sent to the Republican former president's attorney that was made public by a Trump ally.

The large quantity of classified material in 15 boxes recovered in January by the National Archives and Records Administration, some marked as "top secret," provides more insight into what led to the FBI's court-authorized Aug. 8 search of Trump's residence at the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach.

The agency is responsible for preserving government records.

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Trump, Without the Presidency’s Protections, Struggles for a Strategy


On Tuesday, a Florida judge informed two lawyers representing former President Donald J. Trump, neither of them licensed in the state, that they had bungled routine paperwork to take part in a suit filed following the F.B.I.’s search this month of Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home and private club.


“A sample motion can be found on the Court’s website,” the judge instructed them in her order.


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Mr. Trump has projected his usual bravado, and raised millions of dollars online from outraged supporters, since federal agents descended on the property more than two weeks ago and carted off boxloads of material including highly classified documents. But something is different this time — and the errant court filing offered a glimpse into the confusion and uncertainty the investigation has exposed inside Mr. Trump’s camp.


The documents investigation represents the greatest legal threat Mr. Trump has faced in years, and he is going into the battle shorn of the protective infrastructure and constitutional armor of the presidency. After years of burning through lawyers, he has struggled to hire new ones, and has a small group of lawyers of varying experience.


He is facing a Justice Department he no longer controls, run by a by-the-book attorney general, Merrick B. Garland, who has pursued various investigations into Mr. Trump methodically and quietly.


Mr. Trump is serving as his own communications director and strategic adviser, seeking tactical political and in-the-moment public relations victories, sometimes at the risk of stumbling into substantive legal missteps.


One example came late on Monday, when a conservative writer allied with Mr. Trump made public a May 2022 letter from the National Archives to Mr. Trump’s legal team. Spun by Mr. Trump and his allies as evidence that President Biden had played a role in the case after saying he was not involved, the letter confirmed information damaging to the former president’s case, including that Mr. Trump had retained more than 700 pages of documents with classification markings, including some at the most restricted level.


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Then, hours after informing Mr. Trump’s lawyers on Tuesday about one basic mistake they had made, the judge handling their request came back with some pointed questions. Mr. Trump’s team is seeking the appointment of a special master to review the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago, and Judge Aileen M. Cannon asked them to respond by Friday about whether she even had jurisdiction to hear Mr. Trump’s request, and what precisely his motion was asking her to do.


But as has become standard operating practice in Mr. Trump’s world, the primary focus there is not about legal claims, or even political ones, but the state of mind of the man at the center of the crisis. He feels other people’s actions toward him haven’t gotten enough attention, some of his advisers say privately, regardless of whether the facts actually bear out his grievances.


“The Democrats have spent seven years fabricating hoaxes and witch hunts against President Trump, and the recent unprecedented and unnecessary raid is just another example of exactly that,” Taylor Budowich, a spokesman for Mr. Trump, said.


For years, Mr. Trump operated from a playbook taught to him in the 1970s by Roy M. Cohn, the ruthless former federal prosecutor and aide to Senator Joseph McCarthy who represented Mr. Trump early in Mr. Trump’s career.


That approach — demonize investigators, intimidate allies to keep them from straying, paint himself as persecuted and depict every criticism as a political witch hunt — was Mr. Trump’s go-to strategy to discredit the investigation into his 2016 campaign’s possible ties to Russia, and in his first impeachment trial.


Yet at the time, he had the lawyers in the White House Counsel’s Office helping to guide him, and a team of experienced legal hands familiar with Washington.


Now, as in the days after he lost the 2020 election, Mr. Trump is relying on an ad hoc team of advisers with varying levels of experience and judgment, and trying to use his political support as both a shield and a weapon to be aimed at the people investigating him.


But even as he fuels outrage in sympathetic media outlets and tries to turn attention to Mr. Biden and the so-called deep state, Mr. Trump is to some extent walking on the phantom limbs of his expired presidency, claiming executive privilege still applies to him even though he’s out of office and maintaining he had a sweeping, standing order to declassify some documents, which his aides have declined to produce.


If the investigation into Mr. Trump’s possible connection with Russia was convoluted or hard for Americans to grasp, this one is not. The documents inquiry is about boxes of papers, storerooms, souvenirs and “top secret” stamps — the kind of identifiable items that Mr. Trump has weaponized to bludgeon opponents, akin to Hillary Clinton’s private email server or Hunter Biden’s laptop.


The documents investigation is also about whether Mr. Trump or his associates may have obstructed the inquiry, according to court papers filed with the search warrant. And despite the bravura, Mr. Trump has betrayed anxiety in private conversations about where this is all leading, people who have spoken to him say.


“He was never subjected to an investigation of this heft and potency prior to his presidency,” said Tim O’Brien, a biographer of Mr. Trump and the executive editor of Bloomberg Opinion.


Mr. O’Brien noted that when Mr. Trump was president he learned how to use his powers to protect himself. “Right now he is in the most vulnerable position he has been in, in his life, legally.”


Mr. Trump’s court filing on Monday requesting the special master to review the seized documents was styled as a legal motion, but it sounded more like a news release drafted by Mr. Trump himself.


It was filled with bombastic complaints that the government had long treated Mr. Trump unfairly. The document cited purported examples like “two years of noisy ‘Russian collusion’ investigations.” It also contained Trumpian boasts about the former president being “the clear front-runner” for the 2024 election.


Justice Department officials, who have maintained an open channel with Mr. Trump’s representatives, have said they operate under the assumption that none of his attorneys can speak with authority for the former president, knowing he is liable to change his mind in a moment, or withhold information from his own representatives.


In one respect, Mr. Trump and his current roster of lawyers are fundamentally in lock step. They maintain, without any apparent evidence, that the Justice Department and F.B.I. used the document search at Mar-a-Lago to uncover new information for the widening investigation into his actions leading up to Jan. 6, 2021, when his supporters stormed the Capitol during certification of the 2020 election.


And they maintain, without proof, that Mr. Biden himself has been ordering up all of the investigations to destroy his political opponent, according to three people close to Mr. Trump.


Justice Department officials have repeatedly denied any connection between the Mar-a-Lago search and their other work, and White House officials have told reporters that neither the president nor senior West Wing officials had prior knowledge of the search.


The letter in May from the archives to the Trump legal team said that the Justice Department had sent a request to the archives through the Biden White House for access to the initial 15 boxes of government material that Mr. Trump had turned over to the archives in January. The letter also said that Mr. Biden had deferred to the archivist’s decision, based on consultations with the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, to reject Mr. Trump’s assertion that the material in the boxes was protected by executive privilege.


Two of Mr. Trump’s most ferocious defenders on the matter are not even on his legal team. Kash Patel, a former Trump White House and Pentagon aide, and John Solomon, who runs a conservative news site and is close to the Trump team, are both representatives for Mr. Trump with the National Archives. Both argued that Mr. Trump had a standing order to declassify documents that went to the president’s residence. Mr. Trump’s aides have provided no evidence that this was the case.


The result, according to people who have worked for him over the years, is that the only real continuity in the defense is Mr. Trump himself, and his demands that his lawyers do what he wants, which is why so many of his legal filings sound as if they were dictated by him.


It is possible that Mr. Trump is the only one who knows what material he took with him from the White House. His concentric circles of political advisers, several layers deep when he held power, are also shrinking. Mr. Trump is thinly staffed as he sits at his private club at Bedminster, N.J., or at Trump Tower in New York City for the summer, and sometimes makes decisions without keeping his close advisers in the know.


To that point, few of Mr. Trump’s advisers appeared to have been aware that Mr. Solomon was publicizing the letter that the archives had sent to Mr. Corcoran. Many of them acknowledged that they had learned of it when reporters began reaching out after Mr. Solomon made it public.


“He’s so impulsive that he does this on his own,” said Alan Marcus, a New Jersey-based consultant who worked for Mr. Trump’s company in the 1990s. Mr. Marcus described Mr. Trump’s approach to much of his life as “ready, fire, aim,” as opposed to something more strategic.


“So much of the ‘ready, fire, aim’ comes when he’s sitting alone,” he said.

Trump, Without the Presidency’s Protections, Struggles for a Strategy – DNyuz

This article surprised me (or rather the source of it did):

The Trump Mar-a-Lago search was justified | Fox News

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