China or USA better life

[panama hat]

As I posted; an attempt at a joke

I know . . . me too.

You know, criticise policies of our gowernment and being told to fuck off.

That's the difference, though, isn't it. 'We' criticise the crap out of our governments, many times quite rightly so . . . it's the sycophants that turn every bit of Beijing and Moscow propaganda shit into honey . . . and no, that doesn't include you.

The hypocritical cretins who says they'd love to live in China or Russia, and never would, to somehow bolster their credibility.

I live in the west; it's my right and duty to lambast it.

Yup

[sabang]

Originally Posted by sabang (Brave New World)
I would happily move to China

Of course you would . . . said no-one ever.

The hypocritical cretins who says they'd love to live in China

Oh yes I would, happily. Like this guy, an American who used to work for the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI)-




Robert Vannrox
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Lives in Zhuhai, Guangdong, China (1989–present)Thu



I am an American and I live in China.
I would do it again in a HEARTBEAT.

Here’s the Pros…

• You will live longer. Much longer, and you won’t be fat either.
• You will eat better. Much better. You will eat much more seafood, delicious pork, and all sorts of healthy fruits and vegetables.
• A steak will be just a little bit more expensive than a hamburger “value” meal. So you will be eating more steaks than hamburgers. Additionally, very little processed or canned food will be consumed. Everything is fresh.
• You will have more sex. If that is your thing. You will have more than you can handle.
• The girls that you have relationships with will be very pretty. Not tattoos, piercings, foul tobacco chewing skanks. they will be real beauties.
• Speaking of Chinese girls, they do have curves. You would be surprised of the chest sizes on some of these chicks. Lordy!
• You will be expected to drink alcohol, and you will enjoy it immensely. Especially Maotai.
• You will be able to smoke cigarettes everywhere for the most part. From your office at work, to the bathroom, to inside the car. Everywhere. And the cigarettes will be cheap. The cheapest ones are less than $1 USD a pack.
• You will have lifetime, real, friendships. If you need help, money or support, they will drop everything and come to you in a heartbeat.
• Free dancing every morning and every evening in the local public areas.
• China is 100% cashless. You scan QR codes to buy or do anything.
• You will NEVER starve. China is a nation that love to share food.
• You will be able to save money. Lots of money. Unlike the USA, there aren’t millions of tiny hands in your wallet.
• Medical care is very cheap, and easy to get. Local clinics are everywhere, and your medical history is transported no matter where you go.
• You won’t need a doctors prescription for most medicines. This includes Viagra, codeine based headache medicines and antibiotics.
• You will be able to buy nice new top-line cars. Whether it’s a luxury brand of a cutting edge EV, you will probably end up with multiple cars.
• You will be accepted by the Chinese and friendships will form easily.
• When hired you will have a contract. You will NEVER be laid off, or fired without notice such as what is common in the USA. If you merit a firing, it becomes a law case and a judge will determine what will happen.
• All businesses are required to provide meals and housings for their employees, or the equivalent (regional norms) in compensation to you.
• All business will (by law) provide you a yearly round-trip plane ticket to visit your family.
• You will get a yearly bonus, and it is typically one to two months salary.
• You will be able to buy nice homes. A bunch actually. And they all will appreciate in value.
• You will be able to breathe nice fresh air, and experience beauty. China has so much to explore in so many different venues.
• You will be able to fish, and you won’t need permits to do so.
• You will never be lonely. There's people everywhere, and they really love to talk to Americans.
• The police will leave you alone. As long as you obey the law they will be respectful and helpful to you.
• And the government is merit based. You won’t get indigestion every time the appear on television.
• All the gizmos and gadget are new, and cheap and won’t be available in the ‘States for a couple of years.
• You WILL fall in love. The girls are precious treasures.
• You won’t need to buy a bicycle, ride share is common and super cheap.

Here’s the Cons…

• You will not be able to do any kind of illegal drugs. None. Zero and you will not be able to get out of any mess that you get yourself into.
• You will not be able to own or shoot guns.
• You will NEVER be able to uncouple yourself from the United States. Even if you renounce your citizenship, you will always and forever be “the American”.
• The Chinese do not debone fish. You will be expected to eat the fish and then spit out the bones.
• Your house will be much smaller than one in the ‘States. But it will be made out of stone, not drywall on metal frame. You will probably use an elevator to get to it.
• Americans holidays do not exist.
• Chewing tobacco (“chew”) doesn’t exist, but you can chew on a betal nut instead.
• You will work on Christmas and Christmas Eve.
• Good luck finding a turkey to eat. You will need to go to a specialty store to get one.
• If you are a big man you will have trouble finding clothes. I have big feet and that limits my access to shoes. (Sigh)
• You will not be able to watch or view porn. You will be forced to participate in real sex with real people. Not be a voyeur spectator.
• At your job, you will be expected to give your best and “up your game” if you slack off. China is a merit based society. You ether do your best or leave.
• Violations of law can be very harsh. Death and torture harsh.
• You will need to comply with covid restrictions. It’s a real thing.
• Cheese-Its and other American snacks such as Doritos will be expensive. Many approaching the cost of a T-bone steak. So you will find yourself not eating these snacks often.
• Coffee makers are rare. Outside of a coffeehouse, you will adapt to using instant coffee.
• Starbucks coffee in China is surprisingly more expensive than what it is sold for in the USA!
• You will STILL need to pay American taxes on top of any Chinese taxes that you must pay.
• You will be called a “traitor”, and a liar, and all sort of bad things when you talk about your life. No one (from the ‘States) will believe you. So you will, over time, distance yourself from them.
• As a foreigner, you will need to update your residency papers with the local police, and comply with reporting requirements.
• You will not be able to ride the riding mower while you listen to music and drink a beer.

Why should I move to China? What are the pros and cons as an American? - Quora


Of course I live in Australia, with periodic visits to villa sab in Thailand. 'nuff said. And I don't have a Chinese bird. But I can think of much worse things- indeed as a place to live, I might well put China above Thailand these days. Certainly in urban areas.

[bsnub]

^

More crap off of Quora that belongs in the doghouse along with this entire thread.

[harrybarracuda]

There's a question missing:

Q: Why should I kiss chinky arse?

A: Because I have businesses there and a bit of brown nosing goes a long way.

[harrybarracuda]

^

More crap off of Quora that belongs in the doghouse along with this entire thread.

Yeah but it's hilarious.

• You will be called a “traitor”, and a liar, and all sort of bad things when you talk about your life. No one (from the ‘States) will believe you. So you will, over time, distance yourself from them.

"You will distance yourself from them" is his way of saying "No-one will want to talk to you because you're a snivelling sycophantic wanker".

[sabang]

Heh, given the choice between Zhuhai and a basement in grim Seattle, I'll gladly kiss chinky arse.

[harrybarracuda]

I'll gladly kiss chinky arse.

We know. You do it all the time.

[pickel]

Heh, given the choice between Zhuhai and a basement in grim Seattle, I'll gladly kiss chinky arse.

Why do so many Chinese move to Seattle then?

[misskit]

^ Seattle? They are ALL over the USA now. Seems anywhere in America is better than China.

[hallelujah]

^ Seattle? They are ALL over the USA now. Seems anywhere in America is better than China.

Europe too.

We have a number of champagne socialists on here who talk the talk but would never walk the walk.

[bsnub]

We have a number of champagne socialists on here who talk the talk but would never walk the walk.

In Sabang's case, it is cheap box whine.

[hallelujah]

I like what you did there.

[misskit]

Something that goes unsaid is, even the poorest Americans live better than most Chinese. Or Russians for that matter.

[sabang]

Why do so many Chinese move to Seattle then?

Tech sector? certainly not the weather. Why do so many Westerners thoroughly enjoy their life in China? Some of them, Vloggers & the like, are happy to tell you why.
At the end of the day, I do not work and have no current ambition to do so. So in terms of bang for my buck, China wins hands down given the choice between there and US.

[hallelujah]

Tech sector? certainly not the weather. Why do so many Westerners thoroughly enjoy their life in China? Some of them, Vloggers & the like, are happy to tell you why.
At the end of the day, I do not work and have no current ambition to do so. So in terms of bang for my buck, China wins hands down given the choice between there and US.

The answer is because they're desperate to escape and want a better life- as you well know, Mr Disingenuous Champagne Socialist.

[bsnub]

Mr Disingenuous Champagne Socialist.

Damn it, I told you he is a cheap box whine Socialist.

[sabang]

Touche'- China is expensive for wine (although not as bad as Thailand). Oh well, I'll just have to stick to bladdy straya.

[Norton]

60 baht.

[hallelujah]

[QUOTE=sabang;4438363]Touche'- China is expensive for wine (although not as bad as Thailand). Oh well, I'll just have to stick to bladdy nd answer the question.ģ

[sabang]

No. China has a population of 1.4 billion you know. How many Brits live overseas as a percentage of population, I wonder? It might be an interesting comparison.

The majority of Chinese emigres will be either people who have studied overseas, and found a job there- tech sector being an obvious example, and quite a few people you might define as rich- either to protect ill gotten gains, tax matters, or maybe just because they prefer to live elsewhere. Oh, and in pretty much every corner of the world you will find Chinese entrepreneurs, mostly small time- chasing opportunity. Given the +90% approval rating that the Chinese government enjoys with it's citizenry, and the fact that living standards have improved exponentially this century, it is a fallacy to suggest that the average Chinese person just can't wait to get out.

[helge]

Something that goes unsaid is, even the poorest Americans live better than most Chinese. Or Russians for that matter.

Do you know why it goes unsaid ?

Because it's the usual shit that you americans are being fed by the power elite over there.

Tell us about 'food stamps' or 'food coupons', cause the rest of the world are not quite sure what it is and why the richest country in the world has them.

What is it and how many gets them and why ?

Or should it go unsaid ?

[sabang]

Kensington Avenue, Philadelphia



Tent city, one of many USA

even the poorest Americans live better than most Chinese

Yeh right.

[hallelujah]

There are homeless people in the US. Wow

[helge]

Can't you read ?

[hallelujah]

Can't you read ?

I can read you being the usual contrary wanker, yes.