Thread: The British Prime Minister - for as long as there is a Great Britain

They're tories and brexiters.

They know they've been proven wrong already.

Much frustration lies ahead, as the people they are supposed to be in charge of know their bosses have been part of an utterly horrendous and idiotic mistake.

The first time in history that a country's government has imposed draconian sanctions...upon itself.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Yup, how dare any minister demand high quality work from civil servants. You couldn’t make this shite up.

What a strikingly uninformed and obvious blanket troll.

There must be a 'y' in the day.

^^ the country needs strategies, in energy, food, security, industry and social support. Its had none of these in my lifetime and i will support any Govt that formulates these good or bad, as something is better than the intellectual vacuum we've suffered for generations now. How fukin hard can it be, without the all pervading influence of big business directing affairs following the American model

Originally Posted by cyrille

What a strikingly uninformed and obvious blanket troll.

There must be a 'y' in the day.

Tis either strikingly uninformed or an obvious troll. The post cannot be both, Cy.

Raab has not produced one shred of evidence to support his claims of civil service radicals.

He's a nasty piece of work, lashing out.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^^ the country needs strategies, in energy, food, security, industry and social support. Its had none of these in my lifetime and i will support any Govt that formulates these good or bad,

It did have a strategy, after a great deal of consideration, joining the EU. Looks like you didn't support that strategy and prefer the aimless path the UK is now following.

^ Its not had a strategy in any of the things i mentioned in nearly two generations, being in the CAP is not a strategy, being part of the EU quota system for fishing is not a strategy, there is not overarching energy strategy aside from throwing our lot in with gas and handing our declining nuclear industry to a French company, there has been no active industrial strategy when in the EU and still isn't aside from managed decline - the UK has been a strategy void for c40 years.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

being part of the EU quota system for fishing is not a strategy

Originally Posted by malmomike77

there is not overarching energy strategy aside from throwing our lot in with gas and handing our declining nuclear industry to a French company,

Originally Posted by malmomike77

there has been no active industrial strategy when in the EU and still isn't aside from managed decline

Myopia and faux-cherry-picking extraordinaire . . . no surprise in the slightest. But at leat now you have joined some Asian-centric 'market' which you can whine about being badly-treated again.

^ I'm not complaining about the EU if you cared to clear you eyes from the notion that everything i post is anti-EU, I said we haven't and still don't have any long term strategy.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

everything i post is anti-EU

Everything you write is an anti-EU rant in one way or another

Originally Posted by malmomike77

I said we haven't and still don't have any long term strategy.

Fifty years . . . just after joining the EU (EEC) . . . the last you had before fucking it up and leaving, moaning and whingeing ever since.


For a European country the English (well, half of them) do try very hard to believe they are not European

Well, the enquiry into COVID wants to see a load of what's app messages between the likes of Cummings, Sunak, BoJo, Raab, Hancock etc.

Downing St. is fighting against it.

Perhaps they will shed light on the huge level of corruption involved in so many of the PPE deals.

UK ministers engaged in bitter fight to halt release of Covid secrets | Boris Johnson | The Guardian

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^ I'm not complaining about the EU if you cared to clear you eyes from the notion that everything i post is anti-EU, I said we haven't and still don't have any long term strategy.

But, my dear knuckle dragging ditch digging oaf, you and your Brexshiteer comrades do have a strategy.

It’s the one based on a fantasy British Empire redux unfettered by regulation leading to a laissez faire free-for-all benefiting a coalition of tax evading corporate shills funding a right wing rump of snakeoil pedlars feathering their nests and those of their cronies at the expense of a credulous and stupid electorate too dumb to understand they’re getting fucked in the arse.

You dumb fuck.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You dumb fuck.

Lovin it, who woke up the geriatric?

Our future chancellor.

Rachel Reeves aligns Labour with Biden on economy in ‘securonomics’ speech

In a talk at the Peterson Institute in Washington, she also suggested the current Brexit deal would be ‘reviewed’ under a Labour government by 2025.


Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves branded Labour’s economic approach “securonomics” in a speech aligning its policy with US President Joe Biden’s administration.


In a talk at the Peterson Institute in Washington DC, she also suggested the current Brexit deal would be “reviewed” under a Labour government by 2025.


The shadow chancellor said an “age of insecurity” has dawned which requires a more active state and a stronger industrial strategy to bolster Britain’s economy.


This will mean “investing in the sectors and technologies that will determine our future economic success”, she said.


Britain with Labour will be a trading nation, exporting across the world and open to business and investment at home


Ms Reeves said: “Today, I am going to talk about how errors in economic policymaking allowed Britain’s economy to weaken.


“How the long, hard years of austerity, and the chaos of our recent governments, compounded the damage and how global shocks exposed our weaknesses with devastating consequences for working people.


“But I am also going to talk about how an approach that I call ‘securonomics’ can right these wrongs.


“By drawing on the talent and effort of millions of working people in every part of the country.


“By forging a new partnership between an active state and dynamic open markets and by fostering a new era of global partnerships between nations with shared values and interests.”


Ms Reeves praised the administration’s Inflation Reduction Act for pursuing clean energy and industry while promoting Labour’s flagship £28 billion-a-year “green prosperity plan”, which has similar aims.


President Biden’s programme seeks to curb inflation by cutting the deficit and investing in domestic energy production while promoting clean energy.


While there’s no going back into the single market or the customs union, with Labour we would make trade easier with Europe, and rebuild ties with our closest neighbours


Rachel Reeves, shadow chancellor


Ms Reeves suggested Labour would hope to deepen and redefine UK-US ties as a “green special relationship”, with a focus on renewable energy such as offshore wind and carbon capture and storage.


On Brussels, Ms Reeves expanded on Sir Keir Starmer’s suggestion that Britain needs a “better deal” with the EU, saying a review of the current legislation would begin by 2025 under Labour.


“Britain with Labour will be a trading nation, exporting across the world and open to business and investment at home,” she said.


“Britain cannot, should not and – with Labour in power – would not try to go it alone.


“In 2025, the UK’s deal with the European Union will be reviewed.


“While there’s no going back into the single market or the customs union, with Labour we would make trade easier with Europe, and rebuild ties with our closest neighbours.”


She added: “My opposite number, Jeremy Hunt, the current Chancellor of the Exchequer, has made his position clear. He considers the Biden administration to be engaged in a ‘distortive global subsidy race’.

Rachel Reeves aligns Labour with Biden on economy in ‘securonomics’ speech | The Independent

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Our green policies have mostly been dire

actually we were quite ahead of the game with massive wind farms but we've let that slip after 5 years of Tory infighting

A few policies, here and there looked like they had potential, but there didn't seem an across the board plan with a clear direction. Many countries have, for example the Korean "Hydrogen-Future by 2035" with a full detailed timeline and expenditure, so you know exactly the roadmap.

Our politicians are crap. The Tories have been awful the last few years. The neo-liberals are likely to be even worse; there's no Labour party any more.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

but there didn't seem an across the board plan with a clear direction.

a strategy, as i said earlier in the thread the UK hasn't had one for food, industry, energy, security, water you name it for half a century.

A glimpse of our new leader

Labour confirms plans to block all new North Sea oil and gas projects

Party says details of how UK can become ‘world leader’ in green energy transition will be announced soon

Labour has confirmed it will block all new domestic oil and gas developments if it wins power, proposing instead to invest heavily in renewable sources such as wind and also in nuclear power.


The shadow work and pensions secretary, Jonathan Ashworth, said details would be announced soon.


“What we’ll be doing in the coming weeks is outlining how we want to invest in the green jobs of the future, to bring bills down, to create a more sustainable energy supply,” he told Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday show.


“We’ll be outlining that in a significant mission in the coming weeks, and we’ll be announcing more details then.


“We know we’ve got to move to more renewable sources of energy. It’s important for our climate change commitments, but it’s also the way in which we can bring energy bills down for consumers. This isn’t about shutting down what’s going on now. We will manage those sustainably.”


The proposals, which the Labour leader, Keir Starmer, is expected to set out formally on a visit to Scotland next month, will involve not just a ban on new North Sea oil and gas licences, but a pledge that any borrowing for investment should be limited to green schemes.


A party source said: “We are against the granting of new licences for oil and gas in the North Sea. They will do nothing to cut bills as the Tories have acknowledged; they undermine our energy security and would drive a coach and horse through our climate targets.


“But Labour would continue to use existing oil and gas wells over the coming decades and manage them sustainably as we transform the UK into a clean energy superpower.”


This will not stop drilling on projects that have already been approved, with the exception of the Rosebank and Cambo schemes, which Labour has said previously it would block.


Asked if this would leave the country overreliant on wind power, Ashworth said: “It’s a mischaracterisation to say our policies all depend on wind. Yes, we need to invest in wind. We need to invest in tidal; we need to invest in nuclear.


“We need more sustainable sources of energy supply in order to bring the bills down for consumers and actually create jobs in this green transition.”

Labour confirms plans to block all new North Sea oil and gas projects | Labour | The Guardian

And another

New oil field 'in doubt' over Labour's proposed ban, industry sources warn

The North Sea project could bring a £24 billion boost to the UK economy


A major oil-drilling project in the North Sea worth up to £24 billion to the economy could be abandoned after Labour announced it would halt all new drilling licences if it wins the next election, industry sources claim.


Sir Keir Starmer’s plan to end new fossil fuel projects “represents a real danger to the energy security of the UK today” by increasing Britain's reliance on imports, insiders said, amid doubt over the future of the Rosebank oilfield.


Although Labour has pledged to retain any projects that have already been approved, it is understood that low investor confidence, rising interest rates and concerns about future policy changes could kill off plans to start drilling before the next election.


Grant Shapps, the Energy Secretary, is expected to announce his decision on whether to allow drilling in the new Rosebank oilfield in the coming weeks.


Rishi Sunak has already suggested the project is likely to go ahead in an attempt to bolster the UK’s energy security by lowering oil and gas imports.


Boost to the economy


Opening the field to commercial drilling by Equinor, a Norwegian company, could bring in £24 billion to the UK economy.


But a source told The Telegraph the project could now be under threat.


“If Labour comes in and says no more licensing, the north sea will move from being an oil and gas industry to a decommissioning industry,” they said.


“It's because of political uncertainty. If you're going to have your contracts changed or taxes changed due to some climate compatibility clause, it raises the cost of borrowing.”

New oil field 'in doubt' over Labour's proposed ban, industry sources warn

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Liz Truss says being compared to a lettuce was not funny

It's funny alright

I always thought she was more like a slug you find on lettuce

No knowledge of her or UK to enjoy her hubris

Liz Truss' memorable 2014 speech on pork markets and cheese | Politics News | Sky News

Just read that, according to Reuters, it'll cost 169.000 pounds for each asylum seeker sent to Rwanda.

British goverment numbers

Nyheder - Få Seneste Nyt fra i dag | DR

Originally Posted by helge

Just read that, according to Reuters, it'll cost 169.000 pounds for each asylum seeker sent to Rwanda.

British goverment numbers

Nyheder - Få Seneste Nyt fra i dag | DR

A bargain. Cheaper than a lifetime on welfare.