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    and here is the reality of our current two party politics....

    Labour should be winning – but this Tory leadership circus is drowning Starmer out

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/22/labour-tory-leadership-keir-starmer-conservative

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    and here is the reality of our current two party politics....

    Labour should be winning – but this Tory leadership circus is drowning Starmer out

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/22/labour-tory-leadership-keir-starmer-conservative

    What a moan.

    Starmer needs to speak louder and be more relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    What a moan.

    Starmer needs to speak louder and be more relevant.
    Difficult when he’s more bland than Russell Simpson and less articulate than Backspin. (Strange that I picked two Canadians to represent how dull Starmer is). A coincidence requiring no apology where those two are concerned ��.

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    The choice is fairly clear for the Tory membership, brown or white, man or woman.

    Seriously though its about who has the credible policies and is capable of navigating the current crises of which there are a few. Sunak understands finance and the economy and out of the two is the only one who I think can formulate a credible plan, albeit it probably won't be popular with the reality TV public who seem to dominate our society.

    Truss seems to be about unfunded and unplanned promises, from tax cuts to dealing with the EU, and here there is another dividing line with Truss seen as the Brexiteer despite her early history on the subject and the EU won't like her as PM.

    So:

    Rishi Sunak vows to put UK on ‘crisis footing’ if he becomes PM

    Rishi Sunak has said he would put the UK on a “crisis footing” from his first day as prime minister.

    In a speech in Grantham on Saturday, the Lincolnshire home town of Margaret Thatcher, Sunak will try to move the debate on from tax cuts to the NHS by pledging to put the health service on a “war footing” with a vaccines-style taskforce set up to drive down the “emergency” of “massive backlogs”.

    Meanwhile, his Tory leadership contender rival Liz Truss has vowed to review all EU laws retained after Brexit by the end of next year in a “red tape bonfire” if she becomes prime minister, and to scrap or replace those that are deemed to hinder UK growth.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg, the Brexit opportunities minister, had pushed for a similar cliff-edge deadline to tear up 2,400 pieces of legislation, but two and a half years later, in June 2026. His plan prompted a cabinet row over feasibility, given the scheduled cull of a fifth of civil service numbers, or about 90,000 jobs.

    Experts and union leaders said Truss’s proposals would be hugely difficult to achieve in the context of civil service cuts, with warnings it could end up becoming a “bonfire of rights”.

    Truss and Sunak have begun a blitz of policy announcements in an attempt to edge ahead in the Conservative leadership runoff. Ballot papers will start arriving on party members’ doormats in little more than a week, although they have until 2 September to vote.

    The pair, who made it through an initial stage of voting by MPs, will take part in a series of hustings events for members, starting in Leeds on Thursday. They will also go head to head in a televised debate on Monday.

    In Grantham on Saturday, Sunak will stress his Thatcherite credentials. Warning against “privatisation by the back door”, he will announce plans to eliminate one-year NHS waiting times six months earlier than planned by September 2024, and to get overall numbers falling by next year.

    “Waiting times for everything from major surgery to a visit to the GP are at record levels. Millions of people are waiting for life-saving cancer screening, major surgeries and consultations,” he will say.

    “People shouldn’t have to make a choice with a gun to their head. If we do not immediately set in train a radically different approach the NHS will come under unsustainable pressure and break.”

    Sunak told the Times the UK needed to be on a “crisis footing” to deal with inflation and a host of other challenges.

    “They’re challenges that are staring us in the face and a business-as-usual mentality isn’t going to cut it in dealing with them. So from day one of being in office I’m going to put us on a crisis footing,” the former chancellor said.

    “Having been inside government I think the system just isn’t working as well as it should,” he is quoted as saying. “And the challenges that I’m talking about, they’re not abstract, they’re not things that are coming long down the track.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/23/rishi-sunak-vows-uk-crisis-footing-becomes-pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    The choice is fairly clear for the Tory membership, brown or white, man or woman.
    Racist, misogynist cvnts . . .





    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    Rishi Sunak has said he would put the UK on a “crisis footing” from his first day as prime minister.
    How fucking stupid is this guy? It's been on 'crisis footing' since the morons (thankfully) voted for Brexit.




    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    he will announce plans to eliminate one-year NHS waiting times six months earlier than planned by September 2024, and to get overall numbers falling by next year.
    It'd be great if he did, but how will he do it? Is he another Trumpian/BoJo who spews crap and makes massive promises but delivery . . . ?


    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    “Having been inside government I think the system just isn’t working as well as it should,” he is quoted as saying. “And the challenges that I’m talking about, they’re not abstract, they’re not things that are coming long down the track.”
    Good for him if what he says is possible - I don't know what it takes to change the system or if someone from the right is the correct person to do so.

    How difficult is it to get rid of the House of Lords? Protect the NHS? Stick to binding agreements made?

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    Strange how twitch et al aren't shooting messenger numpt for his frequent pasting of articles from The Guardian.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Strange how twitch et al aren't shooting messenger numpt for his frequent pasting of articles from The Guardian.
    They give him a pass for being pissed most of the time

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    I would imagine Rishi by now must be more ethnically representative of the British population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    I would imagine Rishi by now must be more ethnically representative of the British population.
    Yeah, why else would they be called 'minorities'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Yeah, why else would they be called 'minorities'.

    I know he's not running for mayor. But still

    Brits are now in a minority in London, making up just 45% of its residents per census

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I know he's not running for mayor. But still

    Brits are now in a minority in London, making up just 45% of its residents per census
    FFS. And I suppose you will now attempt to prove it with a Twitter post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Strange how twitch et al aren't shooting messenger numpt for his frequent pasting of articles from The Guardian.
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    They give him a pass for being pissed most of the time
    so nothing to add, just more the same crap from you two. What is the point in posting? this is all you do, every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    so nothing to add, just more the same crap from you two. What is the point in posting? this is all you do, every day.
    Plenty to add . . . you're just too thick to understand.




    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Yeah, why else would they be called 'minorities'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I know he's not running for mayor. But still
    Wow . . . what a retort

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    Better get back to 'The Guardian', numpt.

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    ^ I can't post Telegraph or Times articles Symp as you and others can't access the link through the paywall. I have a sub to all the papers and pay one fee. Does that answer your question, feel a bit happier now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    I can't post Telegraph or Times articles Symp as you and others can't access the link through the paywall.
    Her's a thought, numpty . . . copy and paste. Amazing how everyone else here does it, even Backspit.



    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    I have a sub to all the papers
    You and Sarah Palin


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    ^ Like i posted up that graph clearly showing Cherman dependence on Russian oil and gas, you then spent days telling us no such dependence exists, yet here we are a year later with all sort measures being put in place to ensure the lights don't go out in ze fazerland.

    You are too busy finding posts for your famous Pikey or drunk one liners to actually read the content, you are a fukin loon.

    All quiet on the western front
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    I would imagine Rishi by now must be more ethnically representative of the British population.
    Your imagination is letting you down. At 2.5%, they only just nudge statistically significant, let alone representative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Brits are now in a minority in London, making up just 45% of its residents per census
    So, still the major populace by some considerable margin then...

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    Oh blimey.

    I was really hoping we'd just let that go with this fkin imbecile.

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    Well, actually I'm more than a little pissed of with little britain and its attitude to migration. I see Truss is still on the ridiculous Rwanda bandwagon and both she and Sunak are still promising to crackdown on migrants. I did at least hear Sunak use the terms refugees and migrants as separate groups.

    Meanwhile, of course, more job vacancies as supply shrinks. How is Truss going to stimulate growth without allowing more migrants into the country?

    The UK led the world because of its trade, how do they expect to grow when they lost such a huge market.

    Enjoy Truss, you deserve her...and enjoy the EU sanctions that will be arriving soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    The UK led the world because of its trade, how do they expect to grow when they lost such a huge market.

    Enjoy Truss, you deserve her...and enjoy the EU sanctions that will be arriving soon.
    Thanks. I wasn't aware we'd lost the market.

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    ^ Several have mentioned your lack of awareness...

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    ^ I think you meant we now trade together under different rules, that's not losing a market but i'll forgive your rudeness.

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