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    Cliven Bundy- American Patriot or Domestic Terrorist?

    The right's new fixation: An angry old white man who thinks freedom means not having to follow the law.



    In what world is Cliven Bundy, the 68-year-old rancher who refuses to pay his tab for grazing cattle on federal lands, a patriot?

    He drapes himself in the American flag but says “I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing,” while attracting a collection of thugs with assault rifles in the Nevada desert to force the Bureau of Land Management to back down from a court-ordered confiscation of his cattle.

    One of Bundy’s supporters, Tea Party leader Richard Mack, who is in the National Rifle Association’s Hall of Fame, says he plans to use women as human shields in a violent showdown with law enforcement. Fox News host Sean Hannity has all but encouraged a violent confrontation.

    Bundy and his defenders certainly aren’t patriots. What would you call them?

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    I call them anarchists.

    If they were in Europe, they would be called skinheads.

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    He got this one right, freedom means exactly not having to follow the law. Even better is not having laws for every minute detail of life. Best is not having other people around in a 1,000 mile radius.

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    Timothy McVeigh style right wing head cases is what I call them.

    And of course they're attracting all the other right wing headcases.

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    Bundy is a freeloader (I’m being nice).

    Just give it time. He’ll take his cattle to market and the government will seize his account/s. I bet Bundy wishes he could thin out some of that herd right now with the price of beef getting what it’s getting today. Prices haven’t been this good in years!

    You have cattlemen busting their ass every day, paying their property taxes (mowing/fertilizing/tending fence on property they oversee), paying grazing rights (leasing other’s property) or paying for a mortgage on property they own and this freeloading Bundy thinks he shouldn’t pay grazing rights?

    Fuck him!

    Fatten them up Mr. Bundy, you might not see a cent of that money your cattle brings. But the government and/or IRS will, with hefty fines/penalties and what’s due the government.
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    From what I have read, he was supposed to be paying only $1.35 per head of cattle, per month, for grazing. That is so cheap! He's let it go on so long, he's racked back payments and fines to over a million dollars. All because he decided for himself the land doesn't belong to the federal government.

    Unfortunately, his plight has attracted the lunatic fringe of gun toting idiots who are longing for confrontation with the government. That whole standoff could have turned into a massacre had the BLM had not backed off.

    Ceasing his accounts would be the best move.

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    The later, imo.

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    Another right wing scumbag that thinks handouts and welfare are ok as long as they are benefiting. But give a single black mother of two food stamps and she is a lazy nigger. Fucking hypocrites.

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    why the fcuk aren't the seppo's using their predator drones.

    armed religious nutters in the desert

    check , check , check - permission to fire

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    The Bundy Militia wants to use women as human shields... Rednecks are always so classy!

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    Cool!

    Burning Man organizer plans anything-goes ‘Bundyfest’ to mock scofflaw rancher | The Raw Story



    Some of the organizers of the annual Burning Man festival are planning an event aimed at mocking the claims of a Nevada rancher who refuses to pay government-mandated fees for using federal lands.

    “For years, we paid permitting fees to hold Burning Man on the beautiful Playa in Northern Nevada,” said the event’s organizers on a Facebook page. “But now, Cliven Bundy has shown us a NEW WAY! ABSOLUTE FREEDOM! Bundy has declared the entire area surrounding Bundy Ranch as a TOTALLY RULES-FREE ZONE! ANYTHING GOES! WOO-HOO!!!”

    Progressive activist Sean Shealy said Bundyfest, which will be held across the road from Bundy’s ranch in Bunkerville, Nevada, for one month starting on Sept. 5.
    That’s just after the conclusion of the Burning Man festival, and Shealy hopes attendees will travel south to see 240 bands perform 24 hours a day near the rancher’s home.

    “Some people have asked me, where will we camp, where will we park?” Shealy said. “Anywhere, really. It’s f*cking anarchy.”

    The Facebook page for the event promises no permits will be required, full nudity will be permitted, and the atmosphere will be gay-friendly.

    However, Shealy warned, no bathroom facilities would be provided.
    “You’re free to let it all hang out right there, just like Bundy’s cattle, right there in the Virgin River, if you want to,” Shealy said.

    Organizers also plan a “penis erection contest,” where participants will be awarded prizes for the largest phallic structure built in the desert.

    Shealy said organizers expect about 50,000 people to show up in the desert near Bundy’s home.

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    Hey, is that Freedom Rock? Turn it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    why the fcuk aren't the seppo's using their predator drones.

    armed religious nutters in the desert

    check , check , check - permission to fire
    These same circles have been around for quite a time now....and active.
    Only receive attention when an event of this proportion becomes news worthy.
    Extreme lefties or righties, they seem to have similar agendas and dogma - though, you'll never hear such from them.

    Per usual, they are all labeled appropriately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    From what I have read, he was supposed to be paying only $1.35 per head of cattle, per month, for grazing. That is so cheap! He's let it go on so long, he's racked back payments and fines to over a million dollars. All because he decided for himself the land doesn't belong to the federal government.

    Unfortunately, his plight has attracted the lunatic fringe of gun toting idiots who are longing for confrontation with the government. That whole standoff could have turned into a massacre had the BLM had not backed off.

    Ceasing his accounts would be the best move.
    That's not cheap. The grazing fees drove out all the other ranchers. He's only left because he isn't paying. Some people don't recognize the Feds in the US. Only the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Another right wing scumbag that thinks handouts and welfare are ok as long as they are benefiting. But give a single black mother of two food stamps and she is a lazy nigger. Fucking hypocrites.
    That is a red herring.

    In Bundys case, he is just trying to pay less to the government. He still pays fuel taxes and all the other taxes levelled on him. The black nigger is truely a freeloader. She contributes nothing to society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    From what I have read, he was supposed to be paying only $1.35 per head of cattle, per month, for grazing. That is so cheap! He's let it go on so long, he's racked back payments and fines to over a million dollars. All because he decided for himself the land doesn't belong to the federal government.

    Unfortunately, his plight has attracted the lunatic fringe of gun toting idiots who are longing for confrontation with the government. That whole standoff could have turned into a massacre had the BLM had not backed off.

    Ceasing his accounts would be the best move.
    That's not cheap.
    That is cheap. Prove me wrong with credible evidence.

    By the way,…calves are averaging over 700.00/head (yesterday!). Some bringing as much as 900.00(+)/head.

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    That guy should be a Senator, America needs the gutsy lone ranger, a leader,
    to stand up for the little guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    From what I have read, he was supposed to be paying only $1.35 per head of cattle, per month, for grazing. That is so cheap! He's let it go on so long, he's racked back payments and fines to over a million dollars. All because he decided for himself the land doesn't belong to the federal government.

    Unfortunately, his plight has attracted the lunatic fringe of gun toting idiots who are longing for confrontation with the government. That whole standoff could have turned into a massacre had the BLM had not backed off.

    Ceasing his accounts would be the best move.
    That's not cheap.
    That is cheap. Prove me wrong with credible evidence.

    By the way,…calves are averaging over 700.00/head (yesterday!). Some bringing as much as 900.00(+)/head.
    All the other ranchers moved off of this land over the years because it doesn't cash flow to grais it

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    the guys needs to pay his fucking way like the rest of us...

    If he owes grazing fees fucking pay them or get out of the business! Very simple!

    funny how these fucking crazies can turn anything into some 2nd amendment thing... get his fucking cows off of government land and shoot any armed fucker who gets in the way! Again... very simple....

    all this for $1.35 per head per month... it looked like he may of had 100 head.... Big fucking Deal!!

    he's no patriot.. he is just a cranky old fuck who needs to get out of the ranching business he obviously can't afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker
    The grazing fees drove out all the other ranchers.
    Except for the 20,000 or so ranchers that do lease federal land, and pay their rent like everyone else. Presumably the money that impoverished patriot Bundy saves by ripping off the taxpayer, helps pay for his helicopter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    That guy should be a Senator, America needs the gutsy lone ranger, a leader,
    to stand up for the little guy.
    I believe these ideals can be found within many hearts of newbie congress folk.
    Good intentions, working man's representative, blah, blah, blah.....

    Doesn't last for very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker View Post

    That's not cheap. The grazing fees drove out all the other ranchers. He's only left because he isn't paying. Some people don't recognize the Feds in the US. Only the state.
    I'll bet you can't even feed a chicken for $1.35 per month.

    How about a little more info regarding the other ranchers which have been driven out by the high grazing fees.

    Why on earth would people who don't recognize the federal government run around waving the American flag and claiming to be patriots? Just stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker View Post
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    Another right wing scumbag that thinks handouts and welfare are ok as long as they are benefiting. But give a single black mother of two food stamps and she is a lazy nigger. Fucking hypocrites.
    That is a red herring.

    In Bundys case, he is just trying to pay less to the government. He still pays fuel taxes and all the other taxes levelled on him. The black nigger is truely a freeloader. She contributes nothing to society.
    Is this judgement not premature? Obama used to be a poor black kid with single mother, and became the greatest president of the greatest nation ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker
    The grazing fees drove out all the other ranchers.
    Except for the 20,000 or so ranchers that do lease federal land, and pay their rent like everyone else. Presumably the money that impoverished patriot Bundy saves by ripping off the taxpayer, helps pay for his helicopter.
    Damn it, don't bring facts into this argument. He has a perfectly laid out fairy story in his head courtesy of Fox News.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Another right wing scumbag that thinks handouts and welfare are ok as long as they are benefiting. But give a single black mother of two food stamps and she is a lazy nigger. Fucking hypocrites.
    That is a red herring.

    In Bundys case, he is just trying to pay less to the government. He still pays fuel taxes and all the other taxes levelled on him. The black nigger is truely a freeloader. She contributes nothing to society.

    Is this judgement not premature? Obama used to be a poor black kid with single mother, and became the greatest president of the greatest nation ever.
    The man made a career out of white guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pound Hound View Post
    the guys needs to pay his fucking way like the rest of us...

    If he owes grazing fees fucking pay them or get out of the business! Very simple!

    funny how these fucking crazies can turn anything into some 2nd amendment thing... get his fucking cows off of government land and shoot any armed fucker who gets in the way! Again... very simple....

    all this for $1.35 per head per month... it looked like he may of had 100 head.... Big fucking Deal!!

    he's no patriot.. he is just a cranky old fuck who needs to get out of the ranching business he obviously can't afford.
    There is no deal. Taxes are no negotiable. I support non conformity by anyone who has it in them to take on the government. Left , right or center. Why are you so subservient to the government ?

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