Thread: Biden says U.S. willing to use force to defend Taiwan prompting backlash from China

More chinky whining on the way....

Philippine ambassador to the United States Jose Manuel Romualdez said the Philippines will allow U.S. forces to access its military bases in the country if China-Taiwan tensions escalate.

In an interview with Nikkei Asia, Romualdez said access to the country’s military bases would be given “if it is important for us, for our own security.”

“Nobody wants to have any kind of war or confrontation," he said. “We want to ask both countries to lessen the tension by having more dialogue and then trying to resolve all of these issues, because it's in our part of the world.”

A spokesperson for the Pentagon said the U.S. and the Southeast Asian country regularly have discussions on "deepening our enduring security alliance under the auspices of the Mutual Defense Treaty and multiple other agreements, including the 2014 Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement [EDCA]."

“Looking ahead, we seek to enhance the posture of our alliance to address new and emerging challenges," the spokesperson told Nikkei Asia. “We intend to continue to implement infrastructure projects at current EDCA locations and explore additional sites for further development."

Under EDCA, American forces are only allowed to have a rotational, temporary military presence at several bases in the Philippines. The number of visiting U.S. personnel is contingent on "the scale and the frequency of the activities to be approved" by the two countries.

Construction and upgrades to the facilities, which are maintained by U.S. forces with ammunition, fuel and medical supplies, among others, were already planned under the 2014 agreement; however, "limited progress" was observed during the Duterte administration.

Romualdez hopes that the country will witness progress soon, saying, “Hopefully, in the next three years, that we can have all of these areas that we have identified already."

He also mentioned that Washington and Manila are currently in talks to increase the number of military bases in the Philippines that U.S. personnel can use, which could possible include a naval base.

"Our military and the military of the United States are all looking into what are the possible areas," Romualdez said.

Tension in the region was ignited after China launched a military drill near Taiwan waters in response to U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) visit to Taiwan in early August. Days after Pelosi's visit, two delegations from the Democratic Party and the Republican Party also organized separate trips to Taiwan despite rising tension with China.

https://news.yahoo.com/philippines-a...152946962.html

The longer China waits. The longer the war propaganda sets in inside Taiwan , the more weapons they get , the more difficult it will be to take. Might as well do it now.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

More chinky whining on the way....

Sending billions in weapons to a separatist province of another country. Hmmm i wonder why they'd whine

I have had dealings with companies in both China and Taiwan and have spent time in each country working with the local technicians and engineers commissioning production lines.
I found that the Taiwanese workers were far superior when compared to their Chinese counterparts regarding technical training and general common sense.

Therefore I believe, and in the event of a war, that Taiwan would deliver a strong military response particularly with the West's support and if they were nuclear armed.

I fear eventually a war will happen particularly if Taiwan are not nuclear armed which will be a bigger global disaster when compared to the Russian Ukraine conflict.

How you haven't been confined to the doghouse yet is beyond me.

Would your handlers call you back to HQ if your posting rights were curtailed?

What a laughably gullible repetitive drone you are.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

How you haven't been confined to the doghouse yet is beyond me.

Take a look at my thread there.

Try replying with your opinion of the post.

Are you suggesting NaGastan did not throw Taiwan under the bus for China decades ago?

Are you suggesting nuclear weapons for all are a good idea?

Or that you have no opinion to offer to a fellow TD poster who suggests arming Taiwan with nuclear weapons is a good solution?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Take a look at my thread there.

It is utter shit like all your posts.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am going to assume that was meant for OhDoh.

Yes, of course.

He just pisses all over threads with his c&p propaganda and hopes the rest of us are as brainwashed to swallow his CCP/RT/"Nagastan" (and what the fuck does that even mean?!?!?!?) crap.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

"Nagastan" (and what the fuck does that even mean?!?!?!?)

Originally Posted by bsnub

No idea.

It's a fair cop OhOh.

I think you owe the TeakDOOR faithful an etymological explanation on this one.

Ameristan... fair enough, but to what does the NaGa in NaGastan refer?

• Biden adviser cites ‘some concern’ with Taiwan security bill amid ‘distinct threat’ from China

White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said the Biden administration has “some concern” with a Taiwan security bill moving through congress, as he said China continues to pose a “distinct threat” bill for the self-governing island nation.

In an interview with David Rubenstein on Bloomberg’s “The David Rubenstein Show: Peer-to-Peer Conversations,” which will air in entirety on Sept. 21, Sullivan said he planned to meet with lawmakers on Wednesday to discuss the Taiwan Policy Act of 2022.

The bill would authorize $4.5 billion in funding to Taiwan through 2026, designate the island nation as a “major Non-NATO ally” and impose other measure to counter China’s “aggressive influence campaigns.”

“There are elements of that legislation with respect to how we can strengthen our security assistance for Taiwan that are quite effective and robust,” Sullivan said. “There are other elements that give us some concern.”

The bipartisan legislation is sponsored by Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).

Sullivan added in the interview that China has made clear that an invasion of Taiwan is still on the table.

“It remains a distinct threat that there could be a military contingency around Taiwan,” Sullivan told Rubenstein. “That remains one of the potential options for the reunification of Taiwan.”

The Biden administration last week requested Congress approve more than $1 billion in arm sales to Taiwan.

Sullivan said the U.S. remains firm in supporting the status quo toward the contested island, which is a policy of “strategic ambiguity” that acknowledges Taiwan is a part of China but affirms that the People’s Republic of China (PRC) does not have sovereign control over the island nation.

“There should be no unilateral changes to the status quo across the Taiwan strait,” Sullivan said Wednesday. “We continue to believe that and we will continue to push back against any effort to change the status quo.”

The Hill has reached out to the National Security Agency and the White House for more information on the concerns cited by Sullivan.

A PRC invasion of Taiwan has been a rising concern as Chinese officials have ramped up rhetoric on reclaiming Taiwan, which has governed independently of China since 1949.

Beijing has also escalated military drills in the Taiwan Strait and around the island, which is just off the Chinese mainland.

Last month, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) led a delegation to Taiwan, drawing the ire of the PRC, which launched missiles over the island and executed unprecedented military drills.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

China continues to pose a “distinct threat”

Pure bullshit. China is not stupid enough to attempt an invasion of Taiwan.

Originally Posted by Looper

It's a fair cop OhOh.

I think you owe the TeakDOOR faithful an etymological explanation on this one.

Ameristan... fair enough, but to what does the NaGa in NaGastan refer?

It's probably some stupid name he got off another forum.

Who fucking cares?

Originally Posted by Norton

Pure bullshit. China is not stupid enough to attempt an invasion of Taiwan.

I am less sanguine than you Norts. I am hopeful that Xi understands how stupid it would be, yet there are people who think that Xi sees the reunification as the ultimate achievement, ensuring his place in history. The rest of the world already let him militarise the Pacific islands, in a way similar to that when they shrugged after Russia occupied Crimea and that hasn't gone well.
In the last couple of years China has been poking harder, with increased air incursions, a virtual sea blockade after Pelosi's visit and now parking drones over Taiwan's military infrastructure to the point where Taiwan has started shooting at them. None of these things is a good signal.

I still hope you are right.

Originally Posted by Shutree

I am less sanguine than you Norts. I am hopeful that Xi understands how stupid it would be, yet there are people who think that Xi sees the reunification as the ultimate achievement, ensuring his place in history. The rest of the world already let him militarise the Pacific islands, in a way similar to that when they shrugged after Russia occupied Crimea and that hasn't gone well.
In the last couple of years China has been poking harder, with increased air incursions, a virtual sea blockade after Pelosi's visit and now parking drones over Taiwan's military infrastructure to the point where Taiwan has started shooting at them. None of these things is a good signal.

I still hope you are right.

What are you talking about ? How has the retention of Crimea by Russia not gone well? That happened in 2014. After 2014, Russia's foreign exchange reserves made a new all time high. Russia has invested billions into Crimea. The bridge (longest in Europe) was just the start.

You are aware that NATO would have built naval bases in Crimea if Russia didn't act right ?

Why did China demand the 1 China policy that the US agreed to ? Do you think they didn't mean it ?

Why should China just allow the US to unilaterally violate the one China policy that it agreed to ?

Originally Posted by Backspin

Why should China just allow the US to unilaterally violate the one China policy that it agreed to ?

Don't you think the Taiwanese should have a say in it?

Originally Posted by Backspin

Why should the world just allow Russia to unilaterally violate the sovereign Ukraine policy that it agreed to ?

I think these were the words you were looking for.

• Senate panel advances Taiwan policy overhaul

The Senate Foreign Relations committee on Wednesday advanced bipartisan legislation aimed at strengthening U.S. policy toward Taiwan.

The panel advanced the Taiwan Policy Act of 2022 by a vote of 17-5, coming amid rising U.S. tensions with China over Taiwan’s independence and despite unspecified concerns about the legislation from the White House.

Following the vote, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) told reporters that the bill “makes it very clear of our support for Taiwan in many different dimensions and defense and the international realm and economic engagement.”

“It is incredibly supportive of Taiwan at a time that Taiwan needs that support to be clear as it deals with the aggression that China has shown in a way that it’s never shown before in the 43 or so years of the Taiwan Relations Act,” he continued.

Four Democrats and one Republican voted against the bill: Sens. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Ed Markey (D- Mass.), Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii), Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and Rand Paul (R- Ky).

The bill would set aside $4.5 billion in security assistance to Taiwan over four years as well as designate Taiwan a major non-NATO ally, which would benefit the island in terms of defense, trade and security cooperation.

The measure would also support Taiwan’s participation in international organizations and multilateral trade architecture.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Taiwan Policy Act of 2022

Anyone with a lot of time and interest, the bill below.

Text - S.4428 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Taiwan Policy Act of 2022 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Originally Posted by Backspin

You are aware that NATO would have built naval bases in Crimea if Russia didn't act right ?

They should just as soon as Ukraine takes Crimea back and make no mistake they will take Crimea back along with the shit puppet states of the Donbass. You grovelling apologists who support rapists, murderers and pedophiles invading a sovereign nation are pure scum. You have a lot more humiliation coming, you pathetic coward.

Originally Posted by bsnub

They should just as soon as Ukraine takes Crimea back and make no mistake they will take Crimea back along with the shit puppet states of the Donbass. You grovelling apologists who support rapists, murderers and pedophiles invading a sovereign nation are pure scum. You have a lot more humiliation coming, you pathetic coward.

Yes they should, since Russia has proven that it is an aggressor who cannot be trusted.

This is why Finland and Sweden are joining NATO also.

It appears the wanketeers are too stupid to see things how they really are.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It appears the wanketeers are too stupid to see things how they really are.

Indoctrinated lemmings, full stop. I will say this about China, they are watching Ukraine kicking Russia's teeth in using US weapons. In many cases, those soldiers only trained on the weapons systems for two weeks, and they are having incredible results. China uses a lot of the same weapons and doctrine as Russia. Can you imagine what NATO would do to Russia in a war? It would be a savage beating, and it would be no different for China. Taiwan uses a lot of the same weapon systems being used to great effect in Ukraine. Just think about that for a minute.