Thread: Biden says U.S. willing to use force to defend Taiwan prompting backlash from China

Originally Posted by McCully

If it's going to kick off I guess it has to be sooner rather than later for China, before the US has time to build up its dominance in the region. American hostility is as clear as Chinese rhetoric, they deserve each other, but feel sorry for the nations and people that will bear the collateral damage.

Pretty much. China isn't going to allow what the US is doing and the US is going to keep doing it.

Originally Posted by bsnub

As Norts said...

Norts didn't say that. Hatter did.

Originally Posted by Backspin

China isn't going to allow what the US is doing and the US is going to keep doing it.

Clueless as usual. China isn't going to do anything other than whine, like they always do.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Game. Set. Match.

What an absolute cvnt this guy is.

Armchair general chickenhawk is just salivating over the prospect of another war.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Armchair general chickenhawk is just salivating over the prospect of another war.

You clown stick to your dumbass plane spotting thread you clueless buffoon.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Self-admission is a good start, Backspit.

Indeed.

Originally Posted by panama hat

China, Russia and Bosnia Herzegovina decide to place 100 of their warships close to the US coast.

The US does not have 100 warships close to the Chinese coast. That is utter nonsense and in regard to those countries attempting to do that they better bring a lot of tugboats with them so they can get back to their home ports.

Originally Posted by panama hat

'Pander'? Again, take off your red/white and blue glasses. You want to know why conflicts start? Look at the map.

FFS, you keep going in circles on this. What are you really getting at here? The US is not leaving the region anytime soon.

Originally Posted by panama hat

And there we have the reason why people can't stand the US . . . it's either their way or no other way. Well done.

I am sure that there are plenty of Kiwis and others that feel the same as I do, so you by no means have any type of consensus regarding that comment, that is just your opinion.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Also, if you believe that looking at an issue from different sides is pandering then you're clearly unable oy have a discussion

What I see is America acting in its own best interest.

For crying out loud....China does NOT want a war with the US, believe me!

Originally Posted by panama hat

The 100 ships was an example, sbubbs . . . You know, not real but making a point .................................................. .................................................. ............................

Good post

Knew you had it in you.

Somewhere

Biden to sign strategic partnership deal with Vietnam in latest bid to counter China in the region

President Joe Biden will chalk up a fresh victory in his campaign to boost U.S. influence in the Indo-Pacific by sealing a deal with Vietnam next month aimed to draw Hanoi closer to Washington at a time of rising tensions with Beijing.

Biden will sign a strategic partnership agreement with Vietnam during a state visit to the Southeast Asian country in mid-September, according to three people with knowledge of the deal’s planning. They were granted anonymity because they weren’t authorized to speak on the record about the agreement.

Originally Posted by helge

Knew you had it in you.

The ruzzian troll misspells again.

Originally Posted by bsnub

The ruzzian troll misspells again.

I wish I could spell 'pathetic'

Originally Posted by S Landreth

a deal with Vietnam

Something that should have been done in 1950. Telling the frogs to fuck off then would have saved a lot of uneeded damage to the US of A.

Oh well, better late than never.

Originally Posted by panama hat

What id the French have to do with the US entering the war? Domino-effect was a high priority. Deflection of guilt doesn't work.

Brush up on your history mate. French officially requested help and quickly recieved it.
What makes you think I have guilt requiring deflection?

Originally Posted by bsnub

The ruzzian troll misspells again.

Considering it's "russian", that's a bit rich.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Yup, but as usual something that may have started out as a good idea turned into crap for so many. Despite this, I do hope the US stays steadfast with Taiwan, they wouldn't be on the wrong side of history this time if shit hits the fan.

History has proved US hardline policies time and again to be misguided and reckless.

As in, led by ulterior motives and costing considerable humanitarian, moral and financial penalties.

Hilary Clinton laid out US policy a decade ago as the war on terror debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan started to draw down, SEA was the new battleground.

It is unfortunate that the US capacity for hubris is matched by its capacity for amnesia.

Originally Posted by bsnub

What I see is America acting in its own best interest.

A moment of clarity and something we can both agree on.

Originally Posted by spliff

For crying out loud....China does NOT want a war with the US, believe me!

What does this even mean ? So because China doesn't want war with the US, it is going to cede territory to the US to build naval bases on ?

Right now there is no Chinese military bases on Taiwan but there's also no US military bases on Taiwan. This is what the conflict is about. If China said nothing and did nothing about what the US is doing now, then the eventual end result would be US naval and military bases on Taiwan. Are you saying that China will allow this ? It is fairly obvious that they wont.

US has bases in Japan and Korea but not anywhere else in Asia. Naval ships visit ports in many Asian countries but have not visited Taiwan since 1979. Too bad cuz I loved a visit to Kaohsiung back in the day. Hong Kong was great as well. PRC says no, no to that now as well.

Originally Posted by Backspin

If China said nothing and did nothing about what the US is doing now, then the eventual end result would be US naval and military bases on Taiwan

The US is doing nothing at all military wise. A visit or 2 by US politicians to Taiwan does not constitute a military threat to China. China (PRC) just can't accept the reality that Taiwan (ROC) has no desire to be governed by the PRC.

Originally Posted by panama hat

What id the French have to do with the US entering the war?

Oh my.

Originally Posted by panama hat

My history is fine

Clearly not in this case.

Originally Posted by Norton

The US is doing nothing at all military wise. A visit or 2 by US politicians to Taiwan does not constitute a military threat to China.

It is skiddy. He is a completely clueless moron.

Originally Posted by Norton

US has bases in Japan and Korea but not anywhere else in Asia.

Soon they will return to the Philippines.

Originally Posted by Norton

US has bases in Japan and Korea but not anywhere else in Asia.

Hmm...

Originally Posted by Norton

The US is doing nothing at all military wise. A visit or 2 by US politicians to Taiwan does not constitute a military threat to China. China (PRC) just can't accept the reality that Taiwan (ROC) has no desire to be governed by the PRC.

China is fine with the status quo. Which is Taiwan as a self governed island.

What does Taiwan taking visits with US politicians have to do with it not wanting to be governed by the PRC ? If Taiwan wants to continue to be self governed , the very last thing they should be doing is taking visits by US politicians.

And taking visits from US Naval admirals

US Navy admiral Michael Studeman visits Taiwan as Trump admin solidifies ties before exit | CNN

^,^^.
Have no idea how to respond to those 2 so will do as what mom always told me. If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all.

• First US military transfer to Taiwan approved under program for sovereign states

The Biden administration approved the first-ever U.S. military transfer to Taiwan under a program that is generally reserved for sovereign states.

The State Department notified Congress of the sale Wednesday, according to The Associated Press, which obtained a copy of the notification. The notification said the material would “be used to strengthen Taiwan’s self-defense capabilities.”

The package carves out $80 million of a potential $2 billion set aside in Taiwan Foreign Military Financing (FMF) as part of the fiscal 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

The implication of FMF likely will escalate tensions between the U.S. and China, which considers Taiwan to be part of its sovereign territory and seeks reunification with the island.

Beijing has not ruled out the use of force to reunite with Taiwan, which is a self-governing island, and has protested all U.S. arms sales to the self-governing island.

U.S. officials emphasized the provision of FMF funding to Taiwan does not represent a change in America’s current policy on Taiwan, according to reporting from the AP.

This is the second time the U.S. has provided military assistance under FMF to a non-nation-state, the first being to the African Union, American officials reportedly said per the AP.

FMF funding uses U.S. taxpayer dollars to fund the supply of materials to foreign countries.

AP reported the copy of the notification did not include exactly what military equipment or systems would be covered by the FMF funding, but it said items that could be covered include air and coastal defense systems, armed vehicles and ballistic missile cyber defenses.

FMF could also be used to support training for Taiwanese military forces.

The White House nor the State Department immediately responded to The Hill’s request for comment.