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    Taiwanese shrug off China drills:"Everyone becomes numb to it"


    What has been going on since I left……….




    The United States and Taiwan have agreed on terms for negotiating a series of bilateral trade agreements over the strong objections of Beijing, which views the self-governing island as part of its territory.

    “We plan to pursue an ambitious schedule for achieving high-standard commitments and meaningful outcomes covering the eleven trade areas in the negotiating mandate that will help build a fairer, more prosperous and resilient 21st century economy,” Deputy United States Trade Representative Sarah Bianchi said in a statement.

    The first round of negotiations is expected early this fall. They will take place under the auspices of the American Institute in Taiwan and Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in Washington. That’s because the terms for U.S. diplomatic recognition of the People’s Republic of China in 1979 required the U.S. to sever formal diplomatic links with the self-governing island.

    The U.S. hopes the pact “will deepen our trade and investment relationship, advance mutual trade priorities based on shared values, and promote innovation and inclusive economic growth for our workers and businesses,” Bianchi said.

    The two sides formally launched the U.S.-Taiwan Initiative on 21st-Century Trade in early June, and Bianchi and Taiwan’s top trade negotiator, John Deng, already held one round of high-level talks in Washington in late July.

    However, after China’s harsh reaction to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi‘s visit to Taiwan, U.S. officials recommitted to the initiative and promised to lay out an “ambitious roadmap” for the negotiations.

    The negotiating mandate released Wednesday by the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative is in line with previous statements about expected areas of negotiations. The two sides have agreed not to discuss possible tariff cuts, a politically sensitive issue in the United States, but will seek agreements in areas like agriculture, customs procedures, regulation, anti-corruption and small- and medium-size enterprises.

    Other areas to be negotiated include protections for labor and the environment, rules for digital trade and the operation of state-owned enterprises. The U.S., through the Taiwan negotiations and separate talks with 13 other countries on the proposed Indo-Pacific Economic Framework, hopes to put pressure on China by raising standards for trade in the region.

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    United States Trade Representative - The United States and Taiwan, under the auspices of the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) and the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the United States (TECRO), will commence formal negotiation on the U.S.-Taiwan Initiative on 21st-Century Trade. https://twitter.com/USTradeRep/statu...70497479581702
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    ^ You posted that already. Ukraine shrugged off the military drills too. Until
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    The US has something like 6 or 7 major air bases within range of Taiwan. China has 39 air bases within reach. And 3000+ modern fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    You posted that already.
    It was so good it needed to be posted again, Skidmark. You post and re-post utter shit every day, so your facux-indignation is not relevant.




    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The US has something like 6 or 7 major air bases within range of Taiwan. China has 39 air bases within reach.
    Good boy, now go back to your computer games.



    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Not rubbing it in or anything, but:-
    You're not . . .





    Even Russia has diplomats working in Taipei . . . it's a simple 'Fuck You' to China.


    Pikkies!!!








    . . . look at all the countries shoving their middle finger up at China.
    Do you see the dark blue ones - diplomatic missions.
    Light blue - representative offices

    So China doesn't like embassies there . . . fine. Let's call them something else . . . fuck China



    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Grasping at straws of bullshit like usual.
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I see . . . how is this bullshit? How is it incorrect? Come on, Backspit. Share with us your wisdom at how that was wrong.
    Nothing, Backspit? Why do you show your idiocy here all day long and with every post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    RUSSIA also has a consulate in Puerto Rico
    And do you see the US making a fuss about that? Nope. So, the point you're trying to make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    And do you see the US making a fuss about that? Nope. So, the point you're trying to make?
    Asking backspit if he has a point...

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    Taiwan welcomes further visits from U.S. officials


    Taiwan’s highest-ranking official in the Unites States is welcoming further visits to the independent island from U.S. officials despite China’s recent aggressive moves.

    Taiwan’s highest-ranking official in the Unites States said China’s aggressive behavior in response to visits by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and other U.S. officials will only draw the island closer to its allies.

    “The more they bully us, the more we need friends,” Bi-khim Hsiao said in an interview with The Hill on Wednesday, just hours before the U.S. and Taiwan announced plans to formally begin trade negotiations early this fall.

    Not shy: Hsiao, Taiwan’s representative to the U.S., isn’t shying away from the trips even though China has answered them with military drills and angry rhetoric. In fact, she welcomes more.

    “We are very concerned and worried about China’s provocative, reckless, and irresponsible actions that are extremely dangerous,” Hsiao said.

    “But then again, as a victim of their bullying, we’re not going to go out and say, ‘We don’t want friends. Stop visiting us.’”

    Some context: Hsiao’s remarks punctuated weeks of heightened tensions between the U.S. and China over Pelosi’s trip. The Speaker became the highest-ranking U.S. official to visit Taiwan in more than two decades earlier in August, and that trip was followed by five-member bipartisan delegation to Taiwan earlier this week.

    The visits have demonstrated U.S. support for Taiwan in the face of rising threats from China.

    Beijing has reacted by staging military drills around Taiwan, moving to suspend cooperation with the U.S. on climate change and other issues and slapping sanctions on Taiwanese officials, including Hsiao.

    ‘Will not be silenced’: “If they think sanctions will restrict our pursuit of international space or stifle our voices, they are wrong,” Hsiao told The Hill. “We will not be silenced by these sanctions.”

    She argued that China with its actions has inspired more international support for Taiwan.

    Unintended consequences: “They are the ones that are stirring up a lot of attention and they are also, ironically, promoting greater sympathy and interest in visiting Taiwan from the international community, and China needs to be held accountable for their own behavior,” Hsiao said.

    “It’s a constant struggle for us to be seen and heard and have a presence internationally,” Hsiao added. “By trying to suffocate our international space, China is actually prompting an even greater desire of the Taiwanese people to have these friends.”

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    A go fvck yourself from Taiwan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    More bullshit
    It's surprising to see RT has time for anti-Taiwanese propaganda . . . but not surprising to see you swallow it.

    Anyway:

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Grasping at straws of bullshit like usual.
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I see . . . how is this bullshit? How is it incorrect? Come on, Backspit. Share with us your wisdom at how that was wrong.
    Nothing, Backspit? Why do you show your idiocy here all day long and with every post . . . Come on. You can do it.

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    An even larger majority of Taiwanese, 78.3%, said they were not afraid of the Chinese maneuvers, even though they included the firing of ballistic missiles over the country. Only 17.2% expressed fear about the drills.


    2022年8月「裴洛西訪台、中國軍演與台灣民意」English Excerpt – 財團法人台灣民意教育基金會

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Taiwanese leader’s approval rating down 20% among young people following Pelosi visit
    More RT utter horseshit. The dimwitted Three Stooges strike again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    It's surprising to see RT has time for anti-Taiwanese propaganda
    Not really, puffy needs all the friends he can get, and chinkystan recently pulled the plug on a load of investments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    An even larger majority of Taiwanese, 78.3%, said they were not afraid of the Chinese maneuvers, even though they included the firing of ballistic missiles over the country. Only 17.2% expressed fear about the drills.


    They shouldn't be. As long as they don't fight when the inevitable landing comes, everything will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    They shouldn't be. As long as they don't fight when the inevitable landing comes, everything will be fine.
    Tta's what you would so, lie down and take it up your arse . . . luckily others wouldn't. Is this what being reliant on your parents well into your thirties does to a man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    As long as they don't fight when the inevitable landing comes
    There will be no landing.

    If there ever is, it will be the greatest military defeat in Chinese and possibly world history. Not to mention, it would be the largest amphibious assault ever attempted, and the Chinese have next to zero chance of pulling that off.

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    Oh god, cue more dummy spitting from the whiny chinkies.

    The US has announced that they will begin formal trade negotiations with Taiwan, weeks after a controversial visit by US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    The first round of talks are expected to begin in "early fall", said the Office of US Trade Representative.

    Their discussion will include talks on trade facilitation, digital trade and anti-corruption standards.

    US and Taiwan announce formal bilateral trade talks - BBC News



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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    It's surprising to see RT has time for anti-Taiwanese propaganda . . . but not surprising to see you swallow it.

    Anyway:



    Nothing, Backspit? Why do you show your idiocy here all day long and with every post . . . Come on. You can do it.
    No he cant.

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    Well, if Taiwan wishes for any chance of achieving true independence, the first thing they need to do is wean themselves off the Chinese economic tit. I don't see it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Well, if Taiwan wishes for any chance of achieving true independence
    It is already fully independent whether you like it or not.



    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    the first thing they need to do is wean themselves off the Chinese economic tit.
    What a ridiculously stupid assertion. Taken with such childish 'reasoning' almost everyone is not independent.


    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I don't see it happening.
    Like Russia not invading Ukraine - what a success you were in that . . . also, you don't see it happening because the strawman you set up is that of a simpleton/backspit/you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Well, if Taiwan wishes for any chance of achieving true independence, the first thing they need to do is wean themselves off the Chinese economic tit. I don't see it happening.
    As one would expect Taiwan exports to China are significant but if necessary I am sure Taiwan could find several other countries willing to increase imports from Taiwan.

    To achieve "true independence" it must seek recognition from the UN. Mission impossible. Ain't gonna happen.

    The procedure is briefly as follows:

    The State submits an application to the Secretary-General and a letter formally stating that it accepts the obligations under the Charter.

    The Security Council considers the application. Any recommendation for admission must receive the affirmative votes of 9 of the 15 members of the Council, provided that none of its five permanent members China, France, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America have voted against the application.

    If the Council recommends admission, the recommendation is presented to the General Assembly for consideration. A two-thirds majority vote is necessary in the Assembly for admission of a new State.
    Membership becomes effective the date the resolution for admission is adopted.

    About UN Membership | United Nations.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I don't see it happening.
    Neither does China and it's Taiwan island.

    Great economic ties and trade outweighs, any up and downs, of Taiwan island's political party changes.

    "Is China Taiwan's largest trading partner?

    Still, Taiwan's business and economic ties with mainland China and Hong Kong have grown so large that the region is by far the island's largest trading partner. Many large Taiwanese companies in high-tech industries such the world's biggest chipmaker — Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., or TSMC.

    Aug 4, 2565 BE"

    Taiwan’s trade with China is far bigger than its trade with the U.S.

    Published Thu, Aug 4 202211:03 PM EDT Updated Thu, Aug 4 202211:31 PM EDT

    • "Mainland China and Hong Kong accounted for 42% of Taiwan’s exports last year, while the U.S. had a 15% share, according to official Taiwan data accessed through Wind Information.
    • About 22% of Taiwan’s imports last year came from mainland China and Hong Kong, versus 10% from the U.S., official data showed.
    • Many Taiwan-based companies operate factories in mainland China. In 2021, Taiwan businesses received $200.1 billion in U.S. export orders, according to the U.S. Congressional Research Service.


    BEIJING — Data show that Taiwan depends more on China for trade than it does on the U.S., even if U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi threw her weight behind Taiwan this week in a high-profile visit."

    Continues at:

    Taiwan'''s trade with China is far bigger than its trade with the U.S.

    In addition, Taiwan trade with ASEAN countries reduces NaGastan % even more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    I am sure Taiwan could find several other countries willing to increase imports from Taiwan.

    Taiwan hits record high exports to ASEAN member states

    Publication Date: July 07, 2022

    "Taiwan’s exports to Association of Southeast Asian Nations totaled US$70.24 billion in 2021, up 32 percent over the same period in 2020 and the highest on record, the Ministry of Economic Affairs said July 5.

    Further analysis of the data shows that Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines accounted for 98.5 percent of Taiwan’s total outgoing shipments to the region, with the major export items being electronic components and parts and integrated and printed circuits."

    "In addition, around 3.2 percent of Taiwan’s export orders were produced in ASEAN countries in 2021, up from 1.6 percent in 2018, demonstrating positive results from the government’s promotion of the New Southbound Policy. The ministry added that the region’s manufacturing locations, market demographics and tariff advantages are all attractive for Taiwan firms to invest in."


    Continues at:

    Taiwan'''s trade with China is far bigger than its trade with the U.S.

    No breakdown supplied as to:

    Who owns the: ASEAN companies trading with, the Taiwan island companies

    or

    Who owns the: Taiwan island companies trading with, the ASEAN companies.

    A win-win for both concerned, China and the ASEAN countries.

    Long may they both prosper. IMHO.
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    China can not afford to cut off trade from Taiwan, as it would cripple the Chinese economy. Most of the imports from Taiwan are microprocessors that China desperately needs to keep its manufacturing sector afloat.

    You Three Stooges lemmings are so consumed by propaganda that you really have no idea what is the actual reality. China needs Taiwan. Not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Most of the imports from Taiwan are microprocessors that China desperately needs to keep its manufacturing sector afloat.
    Does indeed and now that China has cut the export of silica sand needed to produce microchips guess a good thing for Thailand. A very large exported of silica sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    There will be no landing.

    If there ever is, it will be the greatest military defeat in Chinese and possibly world history. Not to mention, it would be the largest amphibious assault ever attempted, and the Chinese have next to zero chance of pulling that off.
    China is spending on military around what the US spent on military in the early 2000's. In the uni polar era. Are you even aware of that ?

    China already surrounded the whole island in its drills. There will be a landing just like there was a landing in Crimea. And the generals in the area will have to decide if they want to fight or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Tta's what you would so, lie down and take it up your arse . . . luckily others wouldn't. Is this what being reliant on your parents well into your thirties does to a man?
    You go ahead and fight and die in a war that you cannot win. It makes sense that your ancestors from just 80 years ago made up the Kriegsmarine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    You go ahead and fight and die in a war that you cannot win.
    I'm not going to fight, dickhead. Are you really that stupid? (theoretical question)


    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    It makes sense that your ancestors from just 80 years ago made up the Kriegsmarine.
    It's called the navy . . . I believe Canada has one as well, fuckwit.


    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    To achieve "true independence" it must seek recognition from the UN. Mission impossible. Ain't gonna happen.
    Taiwan has done well without UN recognition and will continue to do so. Taiwanese can travel, to China even, anywhere they want and enjoy all the benefits of any sovereign nation.

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