Thread: Brave New World

Originally Posted by sabang

Seymour Hersh published an in-depth report claiming that the Biden administration deliberately blew up the Nord Stream II gas pipeline without Germany’s consent or even knowledge

Amazing . . . he must have spent years gathering facts . . .

Oh . . .

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

In recent decades, he has come under criticism by those who call it poorly-sourced, conspiratorial, and over-reliant on anonymous sources.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The sad fact is that people like him and Pilger are just jaded seppo haters that will write any old bollocks to try and pretend they are staying relevant.

Jaded seppo-hater? Sounds perfectly like sabang.

Originally Posted by misskit

Tucker Carlson has exposed himself to be the fraud I always thought he was.

Never in doubt, really.

Missing Kremlin Critic Located in Prison Known for Torture

Jailed Kremlin critic Andrei Pivovarov has been transferred to a notorious penal colony where inmates have accused prison officials of torture, independent media reported Monday after his associates raised concerns over his unknown whereabouts.


Pivovarov’s associate Tatiana Usmanova told the Novaya Gazeta Europe news site that he has been inside Penal Colony No. 7 in the republic of Karelia in northwestern Russia for nearly a month.


Prison wardens there placed Pivovarov inside a cell-type facility until April 30 immediately after he arrived there on Jan. 24, the outlet said.


“First they hid Andrei from everyone for 30 days and without telling his relatives where he is,” Usmanova told Novaya Gazeta. “Then they sent him to this facility where calls and visitations are banned.”

Pivovarov, 41, was sentenced to four years in prison in July 2022 on charges of “undesirable” activities.


He denies the charges against him.


A court in southern Russia upheld the verdict in November 2022.


Russian security services detained Pivovarov in May 2021 after removing him from a flight bound for Warsaw amid a nationwide crackdown on opposition activists.


Pivovarov headed exiled Kremlin critic Mikhail Khodorkosky’s Open Russia organization.


Authorities labeled Open Russia “undesirable” in 2017, a designation that subjects anyone working with it to criminal prosecution.


The pro-democracy movement’s members continued to operate as a separate legal entity until May 2021, when it disbanded to protect its staff from prosecution.


Penal Colony No. 7 gained notoriety after a number of its high-profile inmates accused its chief warden of abuse, slave labor, extortion and creating a system of violence.


The chief warden was sentenced to two and a half years in prison in 2019 on abuse-of-power charges.

Missing Kremlin Critic Located in Prison Known for Torture - The Moscow Times

Oh no, not Abu Ghraib?

Here we go.

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He never fucking learns.

Originally Posted by misskit

Missing Kremlin Critic Located in Prison Known for Torture

Originally Posted by sabang

Oh no, not Abu Ghraib?

This is why you're a fuckwit.

Gitmo?

Originally Posted by sabang

Abu Ghraib

Please show me the Russian equaivalent:

In response to the events at Abu Ghraib, the United States Department of Defense removed 17 soldiers and officers from duty. Eleven soldiers were charged with dereliction of duty, maltreatment, aggravated assault and battery. Between May 2004 and April 2006, these soldiers were court-martialed, convicted, sentenced to military prison, and dishonorably discharged from service. Two soldiers, found to have perpetrated many of the worst offenses at the prison, Specialist Charles Graner and PFC Lynndie England, were subject to more severe charges and received harsher sentences. Graner was convicted of assault, battery, conspiracy, maltreatment of detainees, committing indecent acts and dereliction of duty; he was sentenced to 10 years imprisonment and loss of rank, pay and benefits.^[8] England was convicted of conspiracy, maltreating detainees and committing an indecent act and sentenced to three years in prison.^[9]Brigadier GeneralJanis Karpinski, the commanding officer of all detention facilities in Iraq, was reprimanded and demoted to the rank of colonel. Several more military personnel who were accused of perpetrating or authorizing the measures, including many of higher rank, were not prosecuted. In 2004, President George W. Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld apologized for the Abu Ghraib abuses.

Most of us here aren't even American, but your constant anti-American drivel is pathetic, especially when you endlessly deflect atrocities by your own menatla masters

He's been disappeared, he's been disappeared!!
Oh, he's in Prison Colony number 7, alive and well
Torture, Torture!!
M'ehhh. Got any, like, evidence?

Originally Posted by sabang

M'ehhh. Got any, like, evidence?

There's more evidence in that article than there is in Sy Hersh's.

Are you seriously denying Putin doesn't jail his critics and political opponents? Or do you just approve of his methods?

I absolutely do not approve of jailing dissidents and whistleblowers that have committed no crime. I've been vocal enough about Julian Assange, haven't !?
I know nothing about this guy- how do you expect me to comment about his case? It was implied he had been 'disappeared'- but he has turned up alive and well.

Originally Posted by sabang

I absolutely do not approve of jailing dissidents and whistleblowers that have committed no crime.

Of course if they diss the high-heeled war criminal, you're OK with them being poisoned or thrown out of windows.

Belarus jails another Lukashenko opponent in a kangaroo court, this time a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

The wanketeers will be so proud.

Ales Bialiatski: Nobel Prize-winning activist sentenced to 10 years in jail - BBC News

Russian authorities seek to restrict the parental rights of Alexey Moskalev, whose daughter drew an anti-war picture in school

A regional court in the Tula region is seeking to restrict the parental rights of Alexey Moskalev, whose daughter, Masha, drew an anti-war picture during school art class. Telegram channels supporting the Moskalevs report that a hearing related to the case has been scheduled for March 15.


In January, the city of Efremov’s Commission on Juvenile Affairs filed a suit against the Moskalev family for being “in a socially dangerous situation” since May 2022. The head of the commission, Svetlana Davydova, says the family was flagged because the father did not attempt to return his daughter to school after the anti-war picture incident, and the mother lives on her own and shows no interest in her daughter’s life.


A Telegram channel supporting the Moskalevs notes that Masha has been in a social rehabilitation shelter since March 1. Employees there refuse to let her return home.


“We can’t find out anything about Masha since March 1. The management of the shelter and its director won’t give us any information about her. They ignore all requests and tell us to stop writing about Masha Moskaleva. They never gave her the phone we brought for her to communicate with her dad,” reads a post on the channel.


Human rights activists have asked everyone interested in the case to come to the March 15 hearing, and to “flood [the shelter] with complaints,” since Masha Moskaleva is being held there “against her will and without a court decision.”

Russian authorities seek to restrict the parental rights of Alexey Moskalev, whose daughter drew an anti-war picture in school — Meduza

A Russian man I know recently left his second home in Chiang Mai for America. It was surprising to me because he was always a big Putin fan. He doesn’t want to go back to Russia and be sent off to war. He found it too difficult to make a living in Thailand, so off to the USA.

Originally Posted by misskit

so off to the USA.

Interesting. I wonder how since they aren't supposed to be allowing them in. Ukrainians yes, filthy ruzzians not so much.

He is already there. From what I understand, a record number of Russians have been let into the US over the last year. Never heard of Russians being turned down when they seek asylum.

Originally Posted by misskit

Never heard of Russians being turned down when they seek asylum.

It happens quite frequently as regular check still need to be adhered to and passed, like elsewhere. The US has learned from its Cuban experience, letting in a tonne of fascists sin't good for anyone bar De Santis.

Originally Posted by bsnub

filthy ruzzians not so much.

Watch the vid I posted, you'll find surprisingly many Russians who don't want the war and are not that crazy about Putin

Originally Posted by misskit

From what I understand, a record number of Russians have been let into the US over the last year.

That would be a shame if it were true. But I doubt it.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Watch the vid I posted

What vid?

Sorry, from another thread. There is a whole series of these interviews. Not all is as it seems when we dehumanise a whole group of people. (And I'm guilty of it as well)

Originally Posted by panama hat

An interesting set of interviews with people on the street in Russia about what is happening . . . refreshingly candid with varying opinions (OhWoe wouldn't know what that is).




One can understand a bit why a few ordinary Russians feel wary of NATO/US/West

Originally Posted by panama hat

Not all is as it seems when we dehumanise a whole group of people.

Ah yes. That kid does good stuff, he is from a rich family based in St. Petersburg. So, no surprise that he has not been arrested and sent to the front. Look at the stuff that he has done in the rural Z parts of the country, when you watch always remember that he never steps foot outside of Moscow or St. Pete. He pays some suckers to go out to Z territory.

Those dumbfucks are worse than fox news trumpanzees.