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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    As opposed to you getting your collective ass handed to you on a silver platter?

    Fun guys.
    The result of Putin’s war is yet to be decided. Unlike your self declared win, Putin will pay for it with his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I just love failed businessmen lecturing me about business.
    It's basic facts you have a problem with . . . Canada not being part of NATO, Putin never invading Ukraine, no western bank tellers in HK, HK losing out to SG in the financial hub race . . . etc ad infinitum

    Yea, facts . . .

    Facts (here) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . sabang (here)

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    He does post an extraordinary volume of utter bollocks.

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    So it would seem most of the TD lowbrow herd are right on board with this censorship thing...

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    It’s been explained to you, and you’re just pretending it hasn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    It’s been explained to you, and you’re just pretending it hasn’t.
    Hence his constantly changing direction, and shifting goalposts, trying to find a win for him.
    At least he is not resorting to ad hom and personal attacks (much).

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    It's the Backspit-esque switch and bait tacit - sabang has learned well from his TD master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    It’s been explained to you, and you’re just pretending it hasn’t.
    He is a bit thick, you know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Hence his constantly changing direction, and shifting goalposts, trying to find a win for him.
    Par the course for the Three Stooges. Obfuscation and dishonesty is their stock-in-trade.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    It's the Backspit-esque switch and bait tacit - sabang has learned well from his TD master.
    Indeed, it is. After the bait in switch, skiddy these days just resorts to posting outright lies and falsehoods.

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    On Being Smeared As Russian Disinformation Agents


    The Nixon Administration Pioneered Evidence-Free ‘Russian Spy’ Smears Against Daniel Ellsberg

    NYCBC News

    You may have noticed a reiterative theme trending in the corporate mainstream media (MSM) of late, whereby anything untoward the Common Single Truth Narrative is called out as Russian Disinformation.

    If you are to believe recent corporate media maelstroms, it was Russian agents who derailed Hillary Clinton (Pizzagate) and made Trump president. .

    Did they really ignore Russian calls for brokered treaty regarding the growth and border encirclement of NATO enforced allies? Really? And those stories about Western-founded biolabs in Ukraine? Absolutely positively 100% Russian disinformation. Right?

    The MSM is working the Russian Disinformation story now the way they worked us over to imprint their Final Covid-19 Narrative on us. Their agenda is to ensure that any outliers who would question their version of this war face a harsh, defamatory pushback. Whether it be from friends, relatives, the media, or society at large. This is how the so-called ‘press’ operates, these days. They press us into conformity. Or else.

    And so it’s fortunate we have this post from Trevor Timm, Executive Director of Freedom of the Press Foundation, to remind us that this tactic of blaming the Russians has roots going back to the early 70’s, at least. As originally published here:

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    https://notcbc.ca/2022/04/22/on-bein...mation-agents/


    Interesting article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Interesting article.
    It's not, really . . . . . . it's utter shit. Seriously, dude . . .

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    I had rather forgotten about Daniel Ellsberg actually. I found it an interesting read- others might too. Linked for those interested.

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    NATO Enforced Allies?
    What the holy fuck are you gibbering about now?

    All the recent additions to NATO are countries that experienced life under Kremlin rule. They much preferred the uncomplicated honesty of membership with a defensive and supportive alliance which they chose to join
    voluntarily.

    Sorry but you can’t blame Nixon for that. NATO is not an American organisation. It is a defensive alliance with rules of engagement designed to prevent any one nation trying to lord it over others. Unlike Putin’s War, decisions are made by consensus, not by vermin murderers.

    Your offerings of any connection between history and dishonesty in the US is speculative at best. In the west, media and hooky journalists can speak freely about such ideas. It enables me and others to rubbish them. It never, ever happens in Russia or China.
    All speculation and policy comes from the state and no one is allowed to survive if they disagree with it in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    All the recent additions to NATO are countries that experienced life under Kremlin rule.
    Why that should not be so crystal clear to anyone who lived through the Cold War leads me to believe that for the sake of pushing his bogus fake narratives he is deliberately and conveniently forgetting about such things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    It never, ever happens in Russia or China.
    Of course it doesn't those journalists would be in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I had rather forgotten about Daniel Ellsberg actually. I found it an interesting read- others might too. Linked for those interested.
    Post it in the drivel thread, you'll have at least three avid readers.

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    ABC takes down interview sympathetic to Moscow’s stance on Ukraine


    In a rare move, the ABC has removed a 25-minute interview with a former Australian diplomat that “unduly favoured Russia’s perspective” and contained a number of assertions that were “highly contentious and were not adequately challenged or contextualised”.

    “The ABC deeply regrets these misjudgements,” the correction, posted on Saturday, read.

    As the Russian troops massed on the Ukrainian border in early February, the former diplomat, Tony Kevin, told Radio National’s Big Ideas host Paul Barclay that the Russians didn’t really want Ukraine because “they think it’s a very sad country; pretty much a failed state”.

    “There’s been huge emigration from Ukraine, a huge demoralisation, and Nazi elements, Ukrainian Nazi elements, have assumed positions of real power from which they can intimidate people,” Kevin said. “I think if the truth be known most Ukrainians, more than 50%, would be very glad to be part of the Russian world again, not necessarily lose their political independence but to regain the ability to get on with Russia in a normal way.”

    After complaints from academics the ABC’s editorial standards team examined the interview and found “insufficient efforts were made to ensure that material facts were accurate and presented in context”.

    When contacted by Weekly Beast, Kevin was shocked to learn the program had been deleted. “What a slur on Paul Barclay, one of ABC’s best and most experienced broadcasters of ideas,” Kevin said. “I was never informed that our interview might be subjected to this incredible censorship days after it went to air.”

    To Russia with love: ABC takes down interview sympathetic to Moscow’s stance on Ukraine (msn.com)

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    Tony Kevin, told Radio National’s Big Ideas host Paul Barclay that the Russians didn’t really want Ukraine because “they think it’s a very sad country; pretty much a failed state”
    I'm pretty sure the Russians don't give a shit.

    It's Putin that is behind the invasion, no-one else.

    ABC were right to remove this drivel.

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    I reckon the views of an ex-Diplomat are well worth reading, even if you don't agree with them. read all about him here if ya want, but it's the blatant censorship that is germane to this thread-

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I reckon the views of an ex-Diplomat are well worth reading
    Anyone who calls Ukraine a failed state is a moron whose opinion is not worth listening too. Somalia and Afghanistan are failed states, Ukraine was a relatively modern European nation before the criminal Russian invasion.

    I had a friend living in Kyiv at the outset of the war, he is back in the states now. I just spoke with him this evening and happened to mention that there are some blowhards in TD referring to Ukraine as a failed state, and he broke into laughter. Utterly ridiculous claim and just more of your bogus propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I reckon the views of an ex-Diplomat are well worth reading, even if you don't agree with them. read all about him here if ya want, but it's the blatant censorship that is germane to this thread-
    It's not censorship, it's fact checking you wanker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's not censorship, it's fact checking you wanker.
    Quite.

    The term 'failed state' is one of most misused terms around, and frequently a giveaway of a bullshitting idiot.

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    At least he is not resorting to ad hom and personal attacks (much).
    Your 'go to' choice on the BREXIT and Boris threads, which won't be forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's not censorship, it's fact checking you wanker.
    Ah, at least in Russia, NKorea and China there is neither . . . or was it both? Ask OhWoe and the other two assclowns

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    PayPal Cancels CN Account; May Seize Balance

    The online payment system gave no warning or reason why Consortium News‘ account has been “permanently limited.” PayPal indicated that only if “applicable” will the balance be returned.By Joe Lauria
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    PayPal has canceled Consortium News‘ account without any prior notice or due process and with virtually no explanation.As Consortium News is today launching its Spring Fund Drive, it has lost one of its most important ways for its viewers and readers to show their support through donations. Clicking on the yellow PayPal donate button on our home page now yields this message:




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    The message says that “any money in your PayPal balance will be held for up to 180 days,” after which, “if applicable, we’ll email you with information on how to withdraw any remaining money.”Consortium’s PayPal account page now shows a similar message

    No Prior Notice or ExplanationThere was no prior notice sent nor was Consortium News afforded any due process. A PayPal customer service agent confirmed in a telephone call on Sunday that the “back office” gave no specific reason for “permanently limiting” CN‘s account other than that an “investigation and review” of CN‘s “history found some potential risk associated with this account.” She said the “potential risk” from CN is “not exactly specified by the back office.” The agent said, “It has something to do with the history of this account.” Asked whether any agency, government or private, or any individual had complained to PayPal about CN, the customer service agent replied, “I don’t see any existing case.”The agent could not explain why Consortium News was given no notice or any due process, but promised to ask the “back office” to contact CN to explain. Regarding the $9,348.14 balance in CN‘s PayPal account, the agent said that after a 180-day review PayPal would decide whether to return it. “If there was a violation,” she said “it is possible” the money could be kept as “damages” to PayPal. Violations under the Restricted Activities of the User Agreement include providing “false, inaccurate or misleading information” to PayPal, other PayPal customers “or third parties.”Given the current political climate it is more than conceivable that PayPal is reacting to Consortium News’ coverage of the war in Ukraine, which is not in line with the dominant narrative that is being increasingly enforced. Last week PayPal also froze the account of the alternative news site MintPressNews. PayPal was sued in California in January in a class action for similarly shutting down accounts.


    Joe Lauria is editor-in-chief of Consortium News and a former U.N. correspondent for The Wall Street Journal, Boston Globe, and numerous other newspapers, including The Montreal Gazette and The Star of Johannesburg. He was an investigative reporter for the Sunday Times of London, a financial reporter for Bloomberg News and began his professional work as a 19-year old stringer for The New York Times. He can be reached at joelauria@consortiumnews.com and followed on Twitter @unjoe

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