Thread: Plans to send some asylum seekers from the UK to Rwanda

Truth be told so would a few more on here, but Syb's ego couldn't take it.

Originally Posted by cyrille

What on earth are you blathering about now, numpty?



And where did I claim Blair never lied, bonehead?

I was posting on the thread topic, you silly tit.

And you are very obviously right wing, so it’s a bit late to try to play the neutrality card.

If you fantasise about sex with Priti Vacant then all I can say is you’re welcome.

Not right wing, just loathe hypocritical socialists; I am a libertarian humanist to be precise.

Well the fact you highlighted the person of topic as being, 'yet another Tory liar. Would suggest to me that you think only Tory's lie.

She's definitely got something about her.

^ Too right.

I've always thought she has a really 'pretty' face, but she's a bit broad about the beam for my taste.

That's why when you are young, you have to make the most of being first in the queue Mendip.

^ Timely advice mate. I need to act fast.

The same went for school diners, at the front and then back for seconds but that last bit doesn't necessarily apply to that matter at hand.

Anyway, where were we, oh yes, Sybs erotic fantasies about strong Tory women.

Originally Posted by cyrille

What on earth are you blathering about now, numpty?

He is on a rampage again and trying to shut you off. Fully lathered and frothing at the mouth.

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

I am a libertarian humanist to be precise.

If there was not a higher level of hypocrisy and scum, then I do not know what is.

Originally Posted by bsnub

He is on a rampage again and trying to shut you off. Fully lathered and frothing at the mouth.



If there was not a higher level of hypocrisy and scum, then I do not know what is.

Just look in the mirror, you will see worse.

Thanks for the red you spineless pathetic excuse for a man.

Originally Posted by bsnub

He is on a rampage again and trying to shut you off. Fully lathered and frothing at the mouth.
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Calm down, after straining for days then slightest aggravation could set off a prolapse

Originally Posted by Mendip

^ Too right.

I've always thought she has a really 'pretty' face, but she's a bit broad about the beam for my taste.

I literally just realised this over the past few days. Looks take a 2nd to character and inparticular spiceness or a strong women.

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

I am a libertarian humanist to be precise.

Is there a concept more right wing than Libertarianism ?


I don't think so

But you are a "humanist" also

Which has the upper hand ?

BTW:

quite beneath me to pick 1 of 2 sides, then blindly and fiercely defend them.

I like that

Be warned: If you fail, I might remind you

Originally Posted by helge

Is there a concept more right wing than Libertarianism ?


I don't think so

But you are a "humanist" also

Which has the upper hand ?

BTW:



I like that

Be warned: If you fail, I might remind you

5555 feel free to Helge but I doubt there will be any need to.

Many claim that but it is a definite mixture for me or at least that is what I take from it.

Originally Posted by Backspin

I'd like to know who the 2 boneheads are that voted for.

You should be more concerned about those who voted against because, "the UK is crowded enough". After all, Rwanda has almost twice the population density so it's nothing more than nimby hypocrisy.

There is also a flaw to the argument about asylum seekers seeking refuge in the first same country. In fact, in many cases they do but eventually the neighbouring country can no longer support the influx. This forces them to move to the next country and then the next and so forth. There are other reasons, including relatives and language skills that attract people more towards one country than another.

Imagine a war broke out in the UK forcing people to flee as refugees; would those fleeing try to seek refuge in France or Belgium, or would they be more likely to flee to the US, Canada and Australia?

The UK are not taking there fair share of the burden caused by recent wars and are hiding behind silly arguments that don't stand up to even the most basic of questioning. People have a go at Le Pen and her nationalism but don't seem to recognise the same within the UK government.

The first flight failed on Tuesday due to intervention from ECHR. That will have upset Liz Truss and Priti Patel. It was also said to be 1/2 million quid down the drain.

Would be much cheaper and wiser to set up an office or two on the other side of the channel to process the migrants. UK don't want that as they would be obliged to let many into the country.

When's the next flight due?

Originally Posted by Troy

The first flight failed on Tuesday due to intervention from ECHR

Its another link to the EU we need to divorce ourselves of and they have just helped expedite the process, all good Troy.

^ The ECHR is within the Council of Europe, which the UK joined in 1950. It is not part of the EU.

Next you'll be wanting the UK to leave the UN, another organisation that opposes this dreadful decision by the UK.

There is a simple alternative but Boris has promised a cut in immigration and intends to deliver at whatever cost.

Anyone applying through normal channels is blocked so no wonder the boat crossings are on the rise.

Originally Posted by Troy

The ECHR is within the Council of Europe, which the UK joined in 1950. It is not part of the EU.

irrelevant, its about decision making and i see no reason why our courts cannot make them?

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Its another link to the EU we need to divorce ourselves of and they have just helped expedite the process, all good Troy.

Originally Posted by Troy

The ECHR is within the Council of Europe, which the UK joined in 1950. It is not part of the EU.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

irrelevant

Good Lord . . .

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

I think it is a case of the EU doing too much and other countries in the G20 doing too little. This includes countries in The Middle East, who, for centuries were the main destinations for migrant movement within The Middle East due to religious and ethnic similarities.

I think you'll find that many still end up there, but don't make 'our' news. Saudi, Egypt etc...

Originally Posted by Troy

refugees.

very debateable and that is the Govt point.

^ Or so they say...However, I fail to see how the Iranian former police commander comes into this category.

An Iranian ex-police commander due to be deported from the UK to Rwanda under a controversial scheme says he fears being killed by Iranian agents there.

The man previously gave testimony to a UK-based rights groups' tribunal investigating alleged Iranian atrocities during protests in 2019. He has been held at a detention centre near Gatwick Airport after arriving in the UK from Turkey in May.

The first asylum seekers are set to be deported under the scheme on Tuesday. Their applications will be processed in Rwanda, where they will be given accommodation and help. If successful, they will be able to remain in Rwanda with up to five years' access to education and support.

However the plan has been criticised by politicians and charities, who have raised concerns about the African nation's human rights record.

The former commander, who is not being named in order to protect his identity, was sentenced by an Iranian military court to almost five years in jail in Iran and a demotion for refusing to shoot protesters during anti-government demonstrations triggered by a sharp rise in petrol prices. The former commander was in charge of 60 police officers at the time.

Rwanda asylum: Iranian policeman who defied orders says he fears for his life - BBC News

As I said before, the legal routes are either incredibly slow or blocked altogether so one can understand using alternate means to get to the UK.