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    Govt can't win majority in Australian election

    Australia’s ruling conservative coalition cannot win enough seats to form a government, two television stations projected on Saturday, after the government lost ground to climate-focussed independents and smaller parties.

    The struggles of Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s Liberal-National coalition, and to a lesser extent the opposition Labor Party led by Anthony Albanese, raised the prospect of a hung parliament and period of uncertainty while a record number of postal votes are counted.

    “At the moment, I can’t see the coalition getting to a majority on these numbers,” the Australian Broadcasting Corp’s election analyst Antony Green said in a live broadcast.

    Sky News projected the ruling coalition “can’t win majority.”

    Center-left Labor had held a decent lead in opinion polls after nine years in opposition, although recent surveys showed the Liberal-National government narrowing the gap in the final stretch of a six-week campaign.

    A Newspoll survey by The Australian newspaper out on election day showed Labor’s lead over the ruling coalition dipping a point to 53-47 on a two-party-preferred basis, where votes for unsuccessful candidates are redistributed to the top two contenders.

    But growing dissatisfaction over policies, candidate selection and integrity saw voters turn away from both major parties.

    TURNING TEAL

    In several affluent Liberal-held seats, so-called “teal independents” campaigning for action on climate change after some of the worst floods and fires to hit Australia, looked likely to win.

    Three volunteers working for teal independent Monique Ryan, who is running against Treasurer Josh Frydenberg in the long-held Liberal seat of Kooyong in Melbourne, said they joined Ryan’s campaign because they are concerned about the climate for the sake of their children and grandchildren.

    “For me, it’s like this election actually feels hopeful,” Charlotte Forwood, a working mother of three adult children, told Reuters.

    With 82% of polling booths counted, Ryan was projected to win 53% of the two-party preferred vote.

    Early returns suggested the Greens had also made ground, especially in some urban centers, while billionaire Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party and Pauline Hanson’s right-wing One Nation also looked to have gained votes at the expense of both major parties.

    Greens leader Adam Bandt, who retained his inner city Melbourne seat, said climate was a major issue for voters.

    “There was an attempt from Labor and Liberal to bury it, and we were very clear about the need to tackle climate by tackling coal and gas.”

    Morrison and Albanese earlier cast their votes in Sydney after making whistle-stop tours across marginal seats in the final two days of a campaign dominated by rising living costs, climate change and integrity.

    As Labor focussed on spiking inflation and sluggish wage growth, Morrison made the country’s lowest unemployment in almost half a century the centerpiece of his campaign’s final hours.

    In the outgoing parliament, the Liberal-National coalition held 76 of the 151 lower house seats, while Labor held 68, with seven minor party and independent members.

    Voting is compulsory and more than half of votes had been cast by Friday evening, with a record 8 million early in-person and postal votes, the Australian Electoral Commission said.

    The commission has cautioned that a clear winner might not immediately emerge if it is a close contest, due to the time required to count about 3 million postal votes.

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    Scomo has conceded, Albanese will form the next government. Only question remaining is will Labour net the remaining 4 seats required to form a majority government.

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    SYDNEY: Australia’s Labor Party is set to take power for the first time since 2013, as voters booted out Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s conservative coalition in a shift likely to bring greater action on climate change and a national body to fight corruption.
    Labor led by Anthony Albanese was projected to win enough seats to form a government in Saturday’s election, even if it falls short of a majority in the 151-seat parliament, according to the Australian Broadcasting Commission (ABC). The broadcaster said the opposition party had won at least 72 seats, compared with 55 for the Liberal-National Coalition led by Morrison. Small parties and independents had 11 seats, with 13 others still to be declared as of 8.30pm Bangkok time.
    Morrison announced he would resign the Liberal leadership, saying he took responsibility for party colleagues who had lost their seats, and for loss of the government.
    Still, it wasn’t all good news for Labor. The party only won about 31.7% of the primary vote on the latest count, which would be its worst result in decades and the lowest margin for an incoming government since the end of World War II.

    Labor heads for victory in Australia
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    Only one seat remaining now- looks a sure thing.

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    That's good, the Italian can deliver on his promise to get rid of the Queen and Union Jack, is the Sub deal foooooked?

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    Republicanism is strictly on the back burner during the current Reign. After that, who knows?
    The sub deal- well what sub deal? Scotty from announcements, and untold billions. Got no idea. Does anyone?
    Not many policies in this election. There will be a Federal ICAC (good), and some vagueness about taking care of the average bruce.

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    ^ you need to break out the peace pipe with the Chinkies and get back in the Yellow schlong

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    One big reason I'm glad to see the back of scomo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    One big reason I'm glad to see the back of scomo.
    Why, he never signed up to COP 26 so you lot could keep selling coal till we hit the 3 Deg C / year increase you've signed up to.

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    a huge win for Australia - time for progress now - well done the greens , keep the bastards honest

    potatohead fascist dutton will become leader of the liberals and lead them into far right obscurity as old racist white men die off

    we will get a federal corruption investigation entity which will cause quite a few of the corrupt cnuts to wet themselves and learn about jail and asset reduction

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    is the Sub deal foooooked?
    the sub deal was always just an announcement - in 30 years time underwater warfare will not be done by manned machines .

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    the sub deal was always just an announcement - in 30 years time underwater warfare will not be done by manned machines .
    They are already working on it, I'm calling them in 15-20

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    Our most blue chip Liberal seats- Wentworth & Kooyong (Josh Frydenberg!) were lost to Independents. Absolute devastation for Liberal party- well earned too. They must be apoplectic over at Sky News (Murdoch), but I don't get it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    They are already working on it
    my sister in the UK , her neighbor was over in Australia last week for the RN for meetings/junket ( returned with a large selection of tim tams and vegemite ) , so obviously discussions are happening , but really all I can see that will happen will be submarine bases will be built to accommodate USN and RN boats - Australia will move to unmanned AI underwater surveillance machines as large noisy nuclear boats will be a thing of the past .

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    ^ Much more sensible imo. We even have problems staffing the subs we have got.

    Incidentally baldrick- is your local MP that irascible old curmudgeon Bob Katter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    well done the greens , keep the bastards honest
    That was a Dems thing, at least they were relatively centre-oriented.


    A big swing against the Libs in many areas, a real wake-up call. I voted 'Teal" (stupid word in this context) and they romped it in - Wentworth won't ever go red but the Libs needed a reminder that things need to change.

    Let's now hope Labor doesn't go down the road of Jacinda-nomics and fucks everything up.
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    “Still, it wasn’t all good news for Labor. The party only won about 31.7% of the primary vote on the latest count, which would be its worst result in decades and the lowest margin for an incoming government since the end of World War II.”


    Albo crowing like a goose about this win appears to think the public voted him in, instead of ScoMo et al. out!

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    Good and Bad News

    Bad News ...

    Looks like Peter Dutton with retain his seat on a thin margin. FFS, please don't elect him as the Leader of the Opposition.

    Looks like Frydenberg will lose his seat ... he was OK

    In Brisbane, without any high-profile “teal” candidates, the Greens have shot up and surprised the major parties, as voters went to the polls just three months after major flooding hit the city for the second time in 11 years.

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    Good News

    Looks like Dai Le will win Fowler and beat Shadow Home Affairs Minister Kristina Keneally who Labor tried to parachute in.

    Was impressed with Anthony Albanese victory speech. If he's true to his word, Australia is in good hands and has a bright future.

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    Former prime minister Paul Keating famously said, if you change the government you change the country, and Saturday was no different.
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Oh, IMHO I reckon Labor will win enough seats to govern in their own right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post



    Was impressed with Anthony Albanese victory speech. If he's true to his word, Australia is in good hands and has a bright future.

    Oh ffs David how old are you now.Albo is a professional politician who has never had a job outside of politics.
    Stoo believing the spin or Santa won’t visit you at Xmas

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    Bit of a long post, but since Labor has won the election and these are their policies ...


    Aged care

    Labor's aged care policy, launched in Anthony Albanese's budget reply speech, focuses on five main areas.
    It promised to have a registered nurse on site at all times of the day.
    It would require staff to spend at least three hours and 35 minutes with each resident — in line with the aged care royal commission's recommendation.

    Labor did not specify how many minutes each resident would have with a registered nurse per day but said each resident would have "more time with a registered nurse".

    It said it would deliver more staff to the sector and says Labor supports the push for an increase to workers' wages and will fully fund any increase.


    Anti-corruption commission

    Labor says it will create a National Anti-Corruption Commission by the end of the year.
    They said it would cover alleged corruption by politicians and by public servants.
    Labor's model would have public hearings for everyone — including politicians — unless there was a good reason not to.
    The commission would also have the power to start its own investigations and not wait for a matter to be referred to it.
    It would also be able to investigate things that happened in the past.


    Childcare

    Labor promised more generous subsidies pretty much across the board — including locking in the government's changes for second and additional children.
    It would also raise the maximum subsidy rate to cap it at 90 per cent for the first child in care.
    Labor's long-term goal is to provide a universal, 90 per cent subsidy to all families.
    The family income threshold would be lifted from $354,305 to $530,000 and there would also be no annual cap.
    It would cost $5.4 billion over four years.


    Climate change

    Labor has committed to net zero emissions by 2050 and a 2030 target of 43 per cent.
    Its plan includes investing in green metal production — metals produced using renewable energy — making electric cars cheaper, upgrading the electricity grid to allow it to handle more renewable energy and installing community batteries and solar banks around the country.


    Defence

    Labor is pretty much in lock-step with the Coalition on Defence spending.
    Anthony Albanese has said a Labor government will not let Defence spending fall below the Coalition's target of 2 per cent of GDP, but did not put a figure on how much they would spend on the ADF if it wins the election.
    Labor also promised an independent "Defence Posture Review" into Australia's military resources and strategy.


    Education

    Labor promised to create 20,000 new university places with a focus on areas where there are currently skills shortages.
    It would also offer more enrolments for students from regional and remote areas, First Nations students and those from disadvantaged backgrounds.
    Labor's pledged to cover the cost of 465,000 TAFE spots over the next four years, which would include 45,000 new places.
    It'd spend $50 million upgrading IT systems, workshops and labs nationally as well.
    On apprenticeships, as part of Labor's plan it would pay for 10,000 new apprenticeships for people training in renewables or other clean-energy jobs.


    Electric vehicles

    Labor is promising to introduce tax breaks for electric cars which would save people about $2,000 on a $50,000 vehicle.
    The policy would cost $200 million over three years and would work by exempting some electric vehicles (EVs) below the luxury-car tax threshold of $79,659 from import tariffs and fringe benefits tax.
    If businesses provided the same car to an employee through a work scheme the company could save up to $9,000 a year.
    The discount would begin from July this year and be reviewed in three years' time to reassess the take-up down the track.


    Farming

    Labor plans to effectively scrap the Coalition's agriculture visa and instead set up a new agriculture stream within the existing Pacific Australia Labour Mobility (PALM) scheme.
    The party said it will pay the up-front travel costs of Pacific workers travelling to Australia.
    Labor plans to ban farmers from exporting live sheep.
    Labor has promised to set aside $500 million from its National Reconstruction Fund to help the agriculture sector diversify and enter new markets.
    Labor also promised to return 450 gigalitres of water from the Murray Darling Basin to the environment, leaving less for farming and other industries.
    Labor has pledged to deliver funding to strengthen Australia's biosecurity system but has not said how much it plans to spend.
    They pledged to spend $7.5 million over four years on 20 extra biosecurity dogs and trainers to guard against disease.


    Health

    Labor went slightly further than the Coalition, promising to lower the cost of medicines by $12.50 to a maximum cost of $30.
    It promised to fund 50 "urgent care clinics" which it says will take the pressure off hospital emergency departments.
    The centres will cost $135 million over four years and will be based at GP surgeries and centres.
    They'll be open seven days a week from 8am to 10pm.
    It has also promised to match the Coalition's continuous glucose monitoring device and Seniors Health Card expansion promises.


    Housing


    Labor's main housing policy was a new "shared-equity" scheme, that would see it essentially buying 30 or 40 per cent of a property with the owner.
    That percentage of the property could then be bought off the government by the home owner over time.
    Labor committed to creating a regional housing scheme with 10,000 places a year.
    It also suggested the price caps on houses were too low and committed to reviewing them immediately if elected.
    Labor also promised to create a $10 billion Housing Australia Future Fund, with the returns on investment being used to build 30,000 new social and affordable houses, some of which will be allocated to frontline workers and women fleeing domestic violence.
    It said would match the Coalition's proposal to lower the age at which people can put money from selling their house into super to incentivise people downsizing.


    Infrastructure

    Labor looks set to proceed with most Coalition infrastructure projects that are underway.
    But it plans to save $750 million by abolishing the Coalition's new Regionalisation Fund and cutting funding from the invitation-only Community Development Grants Program.
    There are few publicly available details about the Regionalisation Fund and the guidelines are not due to be released until July.
    Labor's election costings list $367.2 million in new spending for "Infrastructure Projects" but its pledges far exceed that.
    For example, Labor promised to put $500 million in its first budget for high-speed rail on the east coast and spend $2.2 billion on the Victorian government's suburban rail loop project.


    National Disability Insurance Scheme


    Labor has promised to review and reform the scheme to ensure plans are not "arbitrarily cut".
    It also wants to lift the staffing cap at the National Disability Insurance Agency (NDIA), which oversees the scheme, review the use of external lawyers and consultants, streamline the process for initial plans, improve service delivery in regional Australia and work with people with disability on any future changes to the scheme.


    Older Australians


    Labor matched both the Coalition's policies on freeze deeming rates for pensioners and other payments for two years as well as expanding the eligibility for the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card by raising the income threshold.


    Refugees

    Labor supports boat turn-backs and offshore processing centres.
    But Labor opposes the use of temporary protection visas, because, it argues it keeps refugees in a state of limbo.
    The party did not comment on whether it would lift the number of humanitarian visas offered a year, but has previously supported offering more place to refugees from Afghanistan, Ukraine and Syria.


    Taxes and tax cuts

    Labor announced last year it would support the final stage of the tax cuts if it wins the election, meaning regardless of who wins, billions of dollars will flow to wealthy Australians.
    Labor said it would not introduce any new taxes except for multinationals, but did promising to close loopholes for big international corporations which it says would create almost $2 billion in revenue over four years.


    Telecommunications

    Labor committed to the $4.5 billion upgrade plan already underway.
    It has also promised to spend a further $2.4 billion expanding full-fibre NBN access to an additional 1.5 million premises by 2025.
    Labor's election costings document says it will decide how to pay for this pledge in consultation with the NBNCo.
    Labor promised $480 million for a fixed-wireless upgrade to help regional customers.
    Labor also promised $656 million for regional telecommunications initiatives, including money to provide multi-carrier mobile coverage on roads with coverage black spots.

    HERE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Oh ffs David how old are you now.
    Albo is a professional politician who has never had a job outside of politics.
    Stoo believing the spin or Santa won’t visit you at Xmas
    I'm not that cynical

    I'd like to give a person a chance before I say ... F*** you

    Not saying, for a second he'll be great, I'll just give him a chance.

    BTW ... your Taxes are just about to rise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    my sister in the UK , her neighbor was over in Australia last week for the RN for meetings/junket ( returned with a large selection of tim tams and vegemite ) , so obviously discussions are happening , but really all I can see that will happen will be submarine bases will be built to accommodate USN and RN boats - Australia will move to unmanned AI underwater surveillance machines as large noisy nuclear boats will be a thing of the past .
    For what Aus require, which is to monitor / keep the yellow peril at bay, yes they don't need a warhead delivery system and as we've seen in Ukraine, large/heavy expensive kit is just a sitting duck for agile cheap tech.

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    Climate change

    Labor has committed to net zero emissions by 2050 and a 2030 target of 43 per cent.
    Its plan includes investing in green metal production — metals produced using renewable energy — making electric cars cheaper, upgrading the electricity grid to allow it to handle more renewable energy and installing community batteries and solar banks around the country.
    So fixing climate change in Australia will mean they can export all the coal they want elsewhere then?

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    ^ it is funny, well it would be....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    is your local MP that irascible old curmudgeon Bob Katter?
    no , it is a fat sh1t driveler called warren ensche , of the same waffle style as drumpf

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