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    Thanks for that update, Dave.

    labor is going to spend spend spend. And kill off the live sheep export market.

    How are they going to pay for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    How are they going to pay for this?
    All good.

    'They' don't pay for anything ... the Aussie Tax Payers foot that bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So fixing climate change in Australia will mean they can export all the coal they want elsewhere then?
    Yep, that's what we do in NZ. Much smaller scale) We export the really good clean burning stuff and Import the dirtiest crap coal that you can buy from Indonesia. Makes a lot of sense

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    It appears that the public have voted green and teal based on the recent bushfires and floods. Have they forgotten the Adelaide power plant fire and break down and the fact that Australia’s power supply is barely adequate as it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    They must be apoplectic over at Sky News (Murdoch), but I don't get it here.


    Peta Credlin: https://twitter.com/PRGuy17/status/1527988406831091712

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    How are they going to pay for this?
    you are a sky news aficionado - every fcukin liberal govt since howard has inherited the work done by labour and then spent it all on lining corporate pockets and left the country worse off

    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Have they forgotten the Adelaide power plant fire
    is it the turbine explosion at stanwell you are trying to refer to ? you sound like you are waffling about sh1t you know nothing about - you can explain to me what the hydrogen which caused the explosion was used for there

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    In shock and anger over Liberal defeat, Sky News commentators urge party to shift rig

    Sky News commentators urge party to shift right


    W
    hen the Coalition lost government on Saturday night, Sky’s Paul Murray admitted he was “overly emotional” and needed to sleep on the result before analysing what went wrong.

    But the journalist who campaigned nightly on his TV show to “stop the mad left” winning government was sure of one thing: “The resistance starts here.”

    For six weeks Murray told his audience the polls were inaccurate and the Coalition could still win. He had cosy chats with Scott Morrison, who chose to appear on his program rather than the ABC during the election campaign.

    “I’m proud of my mate”, an emotional Murray said on Saturday night when it was clear Morrison had lost.

    On Sunday night he was gearing up for a new fight, saying: “Welcome to the first meeting of the new resistance”.

    The reaction from News Corp’s media stable of commentators to the Labor win and the teal and Greens gains has ranged from shock to grief and anger.

    Outsiders co-host Rowan Dean wasn’t taking it well. The editor of the Spectator said we were facing “three years of hard-core left-wing government that will destroy the fabric of this nation”.

    For Peta Credlin, one of Murray’s Sky After Dark colleagues, the way forward was clear. The Liberal party, for which she worked before becoming a Sky talking head, must lurch to the right to provide a clear alternative.

    “From Menzies, through Fraser and Howard to Abbott, the lesson is clear,” Credlin wrote in the News Corp tabloids on Sunday. “The Coalition wins and keeps winning when it’s a strong alternative to Labor. It loses when it’s hard to distinguish from the other side.”

    Related: The election outcome exposes a gaping disconnect between News Corp and voters | Malcolm Farr

    Michael Kroger, a former Liberal powerbroker and Sky regular, expressed the pain the Sky After Dark crew was feeling after the election of an Albanese Labor government: “It wasn’t the best night for us. Let’s be truthful. It was an absolute shocker.”

    Herald Sun columnist and Outsiders host, Rita Panahi, was quick to accuse Albanese of causing division because the first thing he said in his victory speech was that Labor will commit “in full” to the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

    Panahi said: “It wasn’t about Australia on the international stage. The very first thing [Labor] said was concerned with race, identity politics, division, and this is what it’s going to be like for the next three years. So strap yourself in. It’s going to be an interesting period.”

    Like Credlin and Kroger, Panahi was calling on the Liberals to once again appeal to the “conservative values that Labor have abandoned”.

    “Labor is a radically left party which the Coalition did not in any way go after,” she said.

    But it was Andrew Bolt, the Herald Sun’s star columnist and Sky News host, who reacted with visceral anger.

    “Scott Morrison’s pathetic Liberals got smashed by telling the world they were the Guilty Party,” Bolt wrote. “Guilty on the ‘climate emergency’. Guilty of being mean to women. Guilty on ‘reconciliation’.

    “Who’d vote for such a mewling pack of self-haters with so little self-respect that they won’t even sack a party traitor like Malcolm Turnbull? Thank God this election wipe-out has taken out many of their worst grovellers.

    “Please, Peter Dutton, take over, and make the Liberals stop apologising for not being more like Labor. Let the Liberals be Liberals again. But still I see some of the more clueless Liberal survivors crawl from the wreckage and whimper that they’ve got to swing even more to the Left.”

    In shock and anger over Liberal defeat, Sky News commentators urge party to shift right (msn.com)


    So when you have your ass handed to you on a plate by the electorate- double down! Not too sure about that guys- the "righter than right" parties like United Australia- which in spite of spending +$100mm didn't win a single seat in the Lower house (and their leader Craig Kelly lost his seat)- Pauline Hansons mob, and Australia First, went down in a screaming heap. No wonder they are sobbing at Sky.



    The electoral/ political forces at play in Australia are certainly quite different to the USA. Right wing populism doesn't play well here, small 'c' conservatism to moderate progressive is our main spectrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    you are a sky news aficionado - every fcukin liberal govt since howard has inherited the work done by labour and then spent it all on lining corporate pockets and left the country worse off
    You have not only drunk the koolaid, but you’re breathing it too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    you are a sky news aficionado - every fcukin liberal govt since howard has inherited the work done by labour and then spent it all on lining corporate pockets and left the country worse off
    Even in your wildest fantasies you cannot believe that.

    hint - put up a little smiley face when you are having a laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Even in your wildest fantasies you cannot believe that.

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    I think he really does.

    Mental.

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    The Oracle, Antony Green ...


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    I hope so. I wouldn't like to see the government held to ransom by the Greens, anyway. Then again the Teal Independents, while environmentally conscious, don't come across as radical. They certainly won't present a united front. Actually the Teals were voted in by the sort of silvertails who, while switching from Liberal, couldn't bring themselves to vote Labor or Green. Clever politicking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I hope so. I wouldn't like to see the government held to ransom by the Greens, anyway. Then again the Teal Independents, while environmentally conscious, don't come across as radical. They certainly won't present a united front. Actually the Teals were voted in by the sort of silvertails who, while switching from Liberal, couldn't bring themselves to vote Labor or Green. Clever politicking.
    Have no idea what you are on about but no matter I think Labour will get the 3 seats they need to have majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Actually the Teals were voted in by the sort of silvertails who, while switching from Liberal, couldn't bring themselves to vote Labor or Green
    Why would anyone 'bring themselves' to not vote for someone?

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Clever politicking.
    Umm . . . sure, sabang.


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    Have no idea what you are on about
    Nor does he.

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    My stalker never sleeps- what a sad, sad life. I was actually repeating talking points being discussed on the MSM here. This might just be of interest to you, norts and other TD literates-

    Simon Holmes a Court, the man behind Climate 200

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    Thanks Sab. I now know what the teals are. They did quite well considering what they were up against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    I now know what the teals are
    it is more about having a representative from the community , rather than one of the 2 parties deciding on who is selected to stand based on national party factional deals - it has been a reset for actual democracy , and hopefully the beginning of the end for the 2 party system

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    You have not only drunk the koolaid, but you’re breathing it too!
    I guess you were happy to have been manipulated - howard was scum

    Election 2022 results: Scott Morrison’s downfall marks end of John Howard-era ascendancy - use an incognito window or tab to open this

    As the results rolled in it was difficult to grasp: the Liberals of the 2020s, eerily like the Soviet communists of the 1980s, were suddenly an anachronism. Like the Politburo, they too had become entrapped within their fervent ideologies and grown so distant from reality that they lost the moral legitimacy to govern. Power was now haemorrhaging away in a death agony of lost seats.

    Morrison was widely credited as the architect of this annihilation. But perhaps he was no more than the sinister final act of a larger story that began decades earlier when John Howard was elected prime minister in 1996.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    it is more about having a representative from the community , rather than one of the 2 parties deciding on who is selected to stand based on national party factional deals - it has been a reset for actual democracy , and hopefully the beginning of the end for the 2 party system


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    Tanya Plibersek apologises for likening Peter Dutton (the most likely new Liberal/Opposition Leader) to Voldemort

    Australian Federal Election 2022-screenshot-2022-05-26-11-07-a


    https://twitter.com/peterwmurphy1/st...51450891780097


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    Done and dusted. Labour has outright majority with 77 seats. Cabinet being sworn in as we speak.

    Liberals - 58
    Independent - 10
    Greens - 4
    Other - 2

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    The problem was the low primary count for both parties. It has to be remembered liberal party vote of 35.9% included the national party vote so actual liberal primary voters were closer to 25% with labor achieving govt with less than a third of primary votes.
    Voters turned away from the major parties in droves prefering independents. I dont think there was any one issue but over successive govts the living standards of ordinary Australians have been dropping and the politicians are being seen to be out of touch with the electorate. The govt has cocked up introduction of covid vaccines, the NBN, many of the defence contracts from the frigates the F35s to the submarine program. The clmate policy although resonating with some voters was not the governments downfall. It was one of many failed policies.

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