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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Maybe he was doing 400 meter 90 second break splits as part of his fitness regime. :-)
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    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand he's off.
    Was the wooden frame his start line?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    ^^
    That's a pretty weak troll.

    Did they find a stack of 24's in his khakis?

    I saw an interview with the owner of that house quite a while ago and he showed the video those stills were from, and it had numerous people stopping by for a look.

    Yes but when you are doing a bit of victim blaming, it's important to remember that being nosey is a capital offence for an African American male.

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    ^From your link…….

    Here's a breakdown of the verdict:


    • Travis McMichael: The jury found Travis McMichael guilty of malice murder, four counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, one count of false imprisonment and one count of criminal attempt to commit a felony. The younger McMichael now faces a sentence of up to life in prison without the possibility of parole on each of the murder charges, 20 years on each of the aggravated assault charges, 10 years on the false imprisonment charge and five years on the criminal attempt to commit a felony charge. The judge will decide whether his sentences will be served consecutively or concurrently.



    • Gregory McMichael: Travis's father, Gregory McMichael, was found guilty of four counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal attempt to commit a felony. He was acquitted only on a malice murder charge. He now faces a sentence of up to life in prison without the possibility of parole on each of the four felony murder charges, 20 years on each of the aggravated assault charges, 10 years on the false imprisonment charge and five years on the criminal attempt to commit a felony charge.




    • William “Roddie” Bryan Jr.: Their neighbor, William “Roddie” Bryan Jr., was found guilty of three counts of felony murder, one count of aggravated assault, one count of false imprisonment and one count of criminal attempt to commit a felony. He was acquitted of malice murder, one count of felony murder and one count of aggravated assault. He now faces a sentence of up to life in prison without the possibility of parole on each of the murder charges, 20 years on the aggravated assault charge, 10 years on the false imprisonment charge and 5 years on the criminal attempt to commit a felony charge.


    All three men have also been indicted on separate federal hate crime charges, which include interference with rights and attempted kidnapping. Travis and Gregory McMichael were also charged with using, carrying, brandishing and discharging a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence. All three men pleaded not guilty to the federal charges.

    The federal trial is set to take place in February. Since they were being held on the state charges, there has been no federal bond hearing yet. If convicted on the federal charges, they could face an additional penalty of up to life in prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Travis and Gregory McMichael were also charged with using, carrying, brandishing and discharging a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence.
    This judge was needed elsewhere as well.

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    Ah shure you can't be hunting down joggers in your pickup truck with yer ol' bang-bangs, you can't be doing that.

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    We're not in the clear yet. Maybe the judge will give them probation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    We're not in the clear yet. Maybe the judge will give them probation.
    The deceased was acting highly suspiciously and did go for a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    The deceased was acting highly suspiciously and did go for a gun.
    Edmond is acting highly stupidly and did go for a shit troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    We're not in the clear yet. Maybe the judge will give them probation.
    Let's just wait for Backspit to proffer his opinion on why the three good ole boys should/will be let off and then get a show with Tucker

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    Oh how ironic after all the tosh being pushed by some TD members.

    A jury of 11 white people and 1 black 55555 this just gets better and better. I can hear the goats already, but but but this is just an exception or this is only happening because we have 'peacefully' protested and 'politely' abused anyone that has got in our way. There is stupid and then there is 'wokeness'.

    If there was a world cup for nitpicking and debasing others arguments with facts that have nothing to do with the argument firstly made, the woke would win every year. A truly special section of the human race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    Oh how ironic after all the tosh being pushed by some TD members.

    A jury of 11 white people and 1 black 55555 this just gets better and better. I can hear the goats already, but but but this is just an exception or this is only happening because we have 'peacefully' protested and 'politely' abused anyone that has got in our way. There is stupid and then there is 'wokeness'.

    If there was a world cup for nitpicking and debasing others arguments with facts that have nothing to do with the argument firstly made, the woke would win every year. A truly special section of the human race.
    That sounds suspiciously like a whine.

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    Let's not forget they weren't even charged for 2 months after the murder and probably would have gotten away with it if not for the leaking of the video.
    The powers that be made a big effort to not prosecute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    A jury of 11 white people and 1 black 55555 this just gets better and better. I can hear the goats already, but but but this is just an exception or this is only happening because we have 'peacefully' protested and 'politely' abused anyone that has got in our way. There is stupid and then there is 'wokeness'.
    Did you forget this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Let's not forget they weren't even charged for 2 months after the murder and probably would have gotten away with it if not for the leaking of the video.
    The powers that be made a big effort to not prosecute.
    'Woke' isn't simply a term for wanting to see equal treatment . . . it means "being alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". If your partner is Thai one would hope you have a problem with her being treated badly in the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Let's not forget they weren't even charged for 2 months after the murder and probably would have gotten away with it if not for the leaking of the video.
    The powers that be made a big effort to not prosecute.
    and you know the reason why they weren't charged for 2months was because of race issues for a fact do you? Please show me significant evidence of this and do not say, 'oh it's clear to see' or quote some article. That is not evidence, that is subjectiveness sir. Anyway, any evidence there is of serious malpractice, does not detract from the fact that, quite rightly, they have been found guilty and 11 of the 12 jurors were white.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    'Woke' isn't simply a term for wanting to see equal treatment . . . it means "being alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". If your partner is Thai one would hope you have a problem with her being treated badly in the west.
    I am fully aware of what the term is supposed to mean. What it really stands for is lets use any situation no matter what the evidence says, to instigate a continued attack on freedom of speech and opinion. Half of what alleged 'racists' say is not actually racist and most of the 'woke' are self-righteous, self-serving loons who couldn't care less about actual rights and racism. All they want is attention and some sort of moral self-satisfaction to deflect from their own failures and problems in life.

    Point in case, the three men who were rightful shot at by Rittenhouse. Out on the streets supposedly protesting against racism with their holier than thou personas but in actual reality, complete scum.

    My partner or children have never had issues when visiting the UK. She was ethnically abused growing up in Bangkok though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Let's not forget they weren't even charged for 2 months after the murder and probably would have gotten away with it if not for the leaking of the video.
    The powers that be made a big effort to not prosecute.
    Plenty of stories in the USA on how the authorities just wanted it all to blow over and go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    That is not evidence, that is subjectiveness sir.
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    I am fully aware of what the term is supposed to mean. What it really stands for is …..
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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    'Woke' isn't simply a term for wanting to see equal treatment . . . it means "being alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". If your partner is Thai one would hope you have a problem with her being treated badly in the west.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    I am fully aware of what the term is supposed to mean.
    I just gave you the definition.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    She was ethnically abused growing up in Bangkok though.
    And you were being 'woke' by not believeing that to be acceptable?

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    What I didn't notice was that because of this case, Georgia was embarrassed into repealing an 1863 law that, under the guise of "citizen's arrest" was actually a law that allowed people to catch runaway slaves and was created in response to the Emancipation Proclamation.

    One of the Georgia prosecutors in this case tried to use it to stop the killers being arrested which is why it came under scrutiny.


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    From Heather Cox Richardson's daily brief:

    On Wednesday, November 24, just before the Thanksgiving holiday, a jury found Gregory McMichael (65), his son Travis McMichael (35), and their neighbor William “Roddie” Bryan (52) guilty on 23 counts in the murder of Ahmaud Arbery on February 23, 2020, near Brunswick, in Glynn County, Georgia.
    Ahmaud Marquez Arbery, 25, was a former high school football player who ran every day. On February 23, he was running through a primarily white neighborhood about two miles from his mother’s house when the McMichaels saw him go by. Gregory McMichael had retired from the Glynn County police force and had been an investigator for the Brunswick District Attorney’s office. He picked up a .357 Magnum revolver, Travis grabbed a shotgun, and they hopped into a pickup truck and followed Arbery. Bryan followed the McMichaels and recorded what happened next on his cellphone.
    The video shows Arbery jogging toward a white truck with Gregory McMichael standing in the truck bed on a quiet, flat, somewhat rural looking street. Arbery moves to go to the right of the truck, and when he reaches the front, just out of sight, a shot fires. Arbery comes back into view on the left side of the truck and moves toward the left side of the road, where he begins to struggle with Travis McMichael, who is holding a shotgun. Two more shots and Arbery staggers to the middle of the road in front of the truck before falling forward.
    Police responded to the scene after a call saying there were “shots fired and a male on the ground ‘bleeding out.’” Mr. Arbery died at 1:08.
    Law enforcement officers arrived minutes later and found the McMichaels standing over Arbery’s body. Bryan was in his vehicle. The officers took the McMichaels in for questioning and called the office of the Brunswick district attorney, Jackie Johnson, to ask for legal advice. Assistants there told the officers that the McMichaels should not be arrested.
    The police report of the incident, taken largely from an account by Gregory McMichael, said that Arbery had “violently attack[ed]” Travis McMichael and had been shot when the two men fought over a shotgun.
    The assistants in Johnson’s office had also told the police officers that the office had a conflict of interest in the case and would need to bring in another prosecutor. Before he retired in 2019, Gregory McMichael had worked as an investigator in her office for more than 30 years. Phone records show he called Johnson shortly after the shooting.
    When she heard of what had happened, Johnson immediately contacted George E. Barnhill, the district attorney for Georgia’s Waycross Judicial Circuit. Barnhill watched Bryan’s video and, the next morning, told Glynn County police that Georgia’s citizens arrest law enabled the men to chase Arbery and that they had shot him in self-defense. Glynn County commissioners blame Barnhill’s early advice to the police for delaying the case.
    On February 27, Johnson officially recused herself from the case, and the next day, Georgia Attorney General Christopher M. Carr appointed Barnhill to prosecute the case. Carr did not know Barnhill had already reviewed evidence.
    Arbery’s family protested Barnhill’s appointment, since Barnhill’s son works as an assistant district attorney in Johnson’s office.
    By April 2, Barnhill acknowledged he had a conflict of interest in the case, and yet on April 3 he issued a letter to the Captain of the Glynn County Police Department saying that the McMichaels were within their rights to chase Arbery under Georgia’s law permitting citizen’s arrests, that they were legally allowed to carry guns, and that Travis McDaniel had fired the shotgun out of self defense. “We do not see grounds for an arrest of any of the three parties,” he wrote.
    Barnhill officially recused himself on April 7. Carr said he should never have agreed to prosecute the case in the first place, and he began an investigation into Johnson, who had recommended Barnhill without disclosing that she had already had him talk to police about the case.
    ​​On April 13, Carr appointed Tom Durden, the district attorney for Liberty County, one county over from the Brunswick Judicial Circuit, to prosecute the case. “We don’t know anything about the case,” Durden told reporters. “We don’t have any preconceived idea about it.”
    And there, things might have rested, much as they have so often rested in our nation’s long history when white men have killed Black men.
    But in the weeks since the shooting, the community had become increasingly insistent on hearing answers. A local journalist for the daily Brunswick Newsnamed Larry Hobbs noted right away that police were not forthcoming about what had happened. He stayed on the story.
    Arbery’s family and friends kept up pressure on the Glynn police department, which was already under investigation for corruption on a different matter, and on the prosecutors.
    Their outrage went national on April 26, when the New York Times reported on the murder, noting that there had been no arrests.
    Finally, on May 5, the case broke open. Apparently thinking that since Barnhill had found Bryan’s video exonerating, everyone else would, too, Gregory McMichael worked with lawyer Alan Tucker to take the video to a local radio station, which uploaded it for public viewing.
    The station took it down two hours later, but not before a public outcry. Carr promptly asked the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to take over the case. Two days later, on May 7, 74 days after Arbery was killed, GBI officers arrested the McMichaels.
    On May 11, the case was reassigned to Joyette M. Holmes at the Cobb County District Attorney’s office and transferred to Atlanta, about 270 miles away from Brunswick.
    On May 21, 2020, Bryan was arrested.
    And on Wednesday, November 24, after a 13-day trial, a jury with only one Black person found Gregory McMichael, Travis McMichael, and William “Roddie” Bryan guilty of malice murder, felony murder, aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal attempt to commit a felony. In February, they will face federal charges of committing hate crimes.
    Also on Wednesday, Johnson turned herself in to officials after a grand jury indicted her for violating her oath of office and obstructing police, saying she used her position to discourage law enforcement officers from arresting the McMichaels.
    Today, Cobb District Attorney Flynn D. Broady Jr. issued a statement claiming that the jury’s verdict “reflects a new direction for our communities, this State, and the nation, to denounce hate, division and intolerance and promote unity.” We must never forget our past, he said, but instead “understand our prior shortcomings and work to the goal enumerated in our founding documents, ‘all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness’ and may we add Justice. In order to do that it takes strength and courage, to demand the rights entitled to us by our Constitution and laws.”
    Broady called out Arbery’s mother, Wanda Cooper Jones, and his father, Marcus Arbery, for their courage in insisting on justice for their son, and claimed “the citizens of this state and this nation stood with Wanda and Marcus and their family.”
    That local Georgians refused to let Arbery’s case go, and that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation brought charges immediately as soon as they were brought into the case, and that an overwhelmingly white jury found the three men guilty all lend credence to Broady’s statement.
    But there is one sticking point: if Gregory McMichael had not produced that video, it’s entirely possible that the crime and its coverup would never have been prosecuted.
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