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    China tests new space capability with hypersonic missile

    China tests new space capability with hypersonic missile

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    China tested new space capability with hypersonic missile: Report | Weapons News | Al Jazeera

    However, Global Times has its own report, which is more inclusively available:

    US should stop eyeing too much on China’s hypersonic missiles and broaden its horizons:

    Global Times editorial



    A formation of JL-2 missiles takes part in a grand military parade celebrating the 70th founding anniversary of the People's Republic of China in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 1, 2019. (Xinhua/Gao Jie)

    "The Financial Times (FT) quoted on Saturday several sources saying that "the Chinese military launched a rocket that carried a hypersonic glide vehicle" in August and judged it to be a "nuclear-capable hypersonic missile." According to the FT article, the missile "flew through low-orbit space" and could help China "negate" US missile defense systems which are designed to target the fixed parabolic trajectory of a ballistic missile. The progress of the Chinese military has "caught US intelligence by surprise," the report said.

    The US generally has the ability to monitor global missile launches. If the FT report is to be believed, it means that there is a key new member in China's nuclear deterrence system, which is a new blow to the US' mentality of strategic superiority over China. According to the FT, the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology announced the 77th and 79th launches of the Long March 2C rocket, but there was no announcement of a 78th launch. The report believes the 78th "secret launch" may be to test the above-mentioned hypersonic missile.

    The FT also reported that China has tested a new space capability with a hypersonic missile, citing sources. It said the missile missed its target by about more than 30 kilometers, yet the test showed that "China had made astounding progress on hypersonic weapons." But if Chinese authorities do not voluntarily release such top defense secrets, others can only speculate based on technical monitoring methods.

    It is meaningless to discuss the credibility of the FT report. But it is important to note the unstoppable trend that China is narrowing the gap with the US in some key military technologies as China is continuously developing its economic and technological strength. China doesn't need to engage in an "arms race" with the US - it is capable of weakening the US' overall advantages over China by developing military power at its own pace.

    In the long term, the comparison between the military powers of China and the US will be in the following paradigm:The US' overall military advantage will be maintained, while its air force and navy have higher quality and its global deployment and projection capabilities will be unmatched by China's. Meanwhile, China won't have any will to globally challenge the US' dominant position in military sphere, and the US shouldn't worry about losing its military hegemony.

    However, China's military buildup will focus on the Taiwan Straits and the South China Sea. It is inevitable that China will take an upper hand over the US military strength in these areas thanks to the geographical proximity and the continuous increase of China's input. Chinese society has not only strong expectations for this, but also strong determination and corresponding ability to realize this reversal. The US' conventional military superiority around the world will not translate into a guarantee of superiority in these regions.

    US should stop eyeing too much on China’s hypersonic missiles and broaden its horizons: Global Times editorial - Global Times

    The US is very concerned about China's nuclear development. There is no doubt that China has no plans to build a nuclear force of the same size as that of the US. In other words, we have no intention of launching a "nuclear arms race" with the US. However, China will certainly improve the quality of its nuclear deterrence to ensure that the US completely eliminates the idea of nuclear blackmail against China at any critical moment and its idea of using nuclear forces to make up for the weakness that US' conventional forces cannot crush China.

    Greater survivability and penetration ability of Chinese nuclear missiles is clearly being accelerated through a variety of new missiles. Such development will ensure that neither country's nuclear forces will be used as a tool to solve regional problems. This would ensure that the damage to peace, if any, would be limited and that the region would not see a deadly collision between major powers.

    The US is constantly releasing rumors that China is strengthening its nuclear strategic tools, which is believed to pave the way for public opinion in the US to further increase its military expenditure from a high starting point. Perhaps we need to point out that no matter how much military spending the US increases and how much new equipment it procures, it is impossible for the US to continue to enjoy overwhelming military superiority in China's coastal areas. Washington needs to be realistic and rethink its approach to China.

    The future strategic balance between China and the US cannot be achieved by carrying out an extreme "arms race." The two sides need to rebuild a certain strategic mutual trust, which is the key to forming a security buffer zone between China and the US. Can't major powers with different political systems cooperate with each other to achieve a win-win result? Must one overwhelm the other? As China and the US prepare for the worst, we must not give up.

    Both sides must explore a political and security framework that can accommodate the major long-term interests of both countries for the benefit of both countries and the world at large and never yield in that."


    US should stop eyeing too much on China’s hypersonic missiles and broaden its horizons: Global Times editorial - Global Times

    It appears that China has designed, built and now tested a game-changing weapon.

    Russia has itself designed, built, tested and deployed to its own military, land, air, ships and submarines, a similar weapon.

    NaGastan has initially tested it's own copy.

    Did THE LORD assist China, we will probably never know.

    Will it make NaGastan recall its surface military fleets back to home port?

    Will it make NaGastan reluctantly rein in its QUAD, OZ, UK, NATO and vassals, aggressive actions?

    Will it make NaGastan reluctantly sit down, acknowledge Chinese and Russian red lines and negotiate the necessary agreements, as Russia and China have called for, today and previously?

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    Who gives a fuck they've all got them now.

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    Design and testing are but initial steps.

    "There's many a slip twixt cup and lip". (Lycophron 3rd century BC)

    And no Nazis around, to hold their hand, this time.

    NaGastan has a history of failure to deliver, on many endeavours.

    Here's number one of the list:




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    Ahem.


    China denies report of hypersonic missile test, says tested space vehicle

    BEIJING, Oct 18 (Reuters) - China tested a space vehicle in July, not a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile as reported by the Financial Times, the Chinese foreign ministry said on Monday.


    Quoting five people familiar with the matter, the Financial Times reported on Saturday that China had tested a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile that flew through space, circling the globe before cruising down toward its target, which it missed by about two dozen miles.. The paper said the feat had "caught U.S. intelligence by surprise".


    "It was not a missile, it was a space vehicle," ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian told a regular press briefing in Beijing when asked about the report, adding it had been a "routine test" for the purpose of testing technology to reuse the vehicle.


    The significance of a reusability test is that it can "provide a cheap and convenient method for humans to peacefully travel to and from space", Zhao said, adding that many companies had carried out similar tests.


    The foreign ministry said the test had taken place in July, not in August as reported by the Financial Times.


    The United States is closely watching China's military modernisation programme to assess the possible risks posed to it by its increasingly assertive strategic competitor.

    China denies report of hypersonic missile test, says tested ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Design and testing are but initial steps.
    Just curious...

    What do you have to gain from a Chinese takeover of the world?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    What do you have to gain from a Chinese takeover of the world?
    "A peaceful win/win moderately prosperous society", is Chinas stated goal. Others ....?

    Me personally nothing, all my Chinese investments were in Shanghai property developers.

    I post news, from Asian sources, which occasionally highlight the errors of other countries or Chinas industrial numbers.

    As illustrated with contradictory reports on today's thread. FT says XXX the end is nigh, CD says Jaw, Jaw, not War, War, Reuters say YYY and others report NaGastani military/politicians ZZZ,

    Asia Times say:

    "The system would be able to overcome US anti-ballistic missile defense systems that are based in Alaska and set up to shoot down projectiles coming over the North Pole: The Chinese system would be able to strike the US from the south.

    The incident has left US intelligence officials at the Pentagon stunned, sources say, as it shows China has made astonishing progress on the development of its hypersonic weapons.

    “We have no idea how they did this,” one person told FT."

    I grow a few Durian fruits, which is a cash crop and does appear to be sold to China increasingly, so prices have risen, win/win for me and my FIL. Along with coffee beans, for my daily caffeine fixes.

    At the same time, the trees produce enough oxygen to support a few hundred souls. That's my contribution to global warming, how much oxygen do you produce each year?

    The few gold bars will be sold by my wife when I die. Who will squander the windfall on toy boys, in gambling dens and buying Mama Noodles. They all do, so I'm told.

    Comfortably crazy and prosperous, compared to some, here in my small neck of Thai jungle.

    Tonight very relaxed thanks. "Am I bovvered", nope.

    Miss my Bangkok visits/ladies though. The Hilton concierge still smiles at my battered pickup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Just curious...

    What do you have to gain from a Chinese takeover of the world?

    Maybe he likes munching bats and pangolins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Ahem.


    China denies report of hypersonic missile test, says tested space vehicle

    BEIJING, Oct 18 (Reuters) - China tested a space vehicle in July, not a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile as reported by the Financial Times, the Chinese foreign ministry said on Monday.
    Oh dear, poor old hoohoo will be as sick as the proverbial parrot to hear that.

    Expect some bravado while wiping away the tears some time soon....

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    Thanks for your comments on the thread contents, 'arry, most illuminating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Thanks for your comments on the thread contents, 'arry, most illuminating.
    Wipe away the tears, hoohoo, wipe away the tears.

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    hypersonic missile


    Who gives a fuck they've all got them now.

    Yes quite. I've always been impressed by the woomera.



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