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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    if you actually want to go and see the real Tai culture.
    What's 'real'? Any diaspora creates its own traditions. China lost many of its traditions, even the 'Tai' due to the wonderfully successful Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution. It has been 'importing' traditional arts and practices.

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    They may be ethnically Chinese, but they are Thais who have little in common with mainland Chinese.

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    Try telling them that. They certainly don't want their offspring marrying a feckless Thai.

    ^^ Check it out for yerself phatty. Look forward to the TR.

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    They are already mixed from way back when and until now.

    Hell, even the Sino-Thai don’t like mainland Chinese.

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    What on earth makes you think Chinese like other Chinese, just like one big happy smiley family? The northerners look down on the southerners, the hongkies look down on the mainlanders and hold Singaporeans in contempt (along with everyone else), and so on. A diaspora Chinese that doesn't speak fluent Mandarin or Cantonese is despised, and frankly an object of bewilderment. They are worse than the poms. But they still don't want their precious offspring marrying lesser races.
    Last edited by sabang; 15-11-2022 at 07:22 AM.

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    ^ Exactly. It’s pretty useless to confuse and use ‘Chinese,’ the nationality with ‘Chinese’ the ethnicity.

    However, if you don’t think Sino-Thai intermarry with Thai freely, you are very, very wrong.

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    Now that I am thinking about it, I have seen all over the world Chinese nationals intermarrying with locals. It is a way to gain property and wealth.

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    Oh, money, You are allowed to marry out for money. But really, you have actually lived in Thailand kitty- are you not aware of the fact there is a distinct stigma attached to a Sinothai marrying a Thai? Unless he's got lotsa dosh of course. Not so far different with a westerner. Heaven forbid your daughter should marry a haak gwai.

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    Have I actually lived in Thailand? You are a jokester.

    And, no, I have seen and known many who intermarry.

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    Must be a strange cloistered environment you English teachers exist in, if you didn't already know that for a fact.

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    ^ Dude.

    Me? An English teacher? Nope. Not a missionary, either.

    Just lucky enough to live in Thailand what is nearly half of my adult life and I am pretty f’n old. My best friends are Thai and Sino-Thai who have intermarried and have family members who intermarry. I am around people who have intermarried every day when I go to the market or food stalls. They are not necessarily wealthy people.

    I posit you are the one who has lived a cloistered life.

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    OK kitty, sorry (i thought you wuz a TEFLer). I was married to a HK Chinese myself you know. Yes, there is a stigma- but it does happen. It's not only a Chinese thang either, nudge wink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    I posit you are the one who has lived a cloistered life.
    It's quite obvious to all who have lived and worked in Thailand that inter-marriage isn't uncommon . . . what is uncommon is marrying outside the social status.



    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Hell, even the Sino-Thai don’t like mainland Chinese.
    Hongkies don't like mainlanders, Taiwanese don't like mainlanders, Singaporeans don't like mainlanders, Malaysians don't like mainlanders etc etc etc.

    No one does.

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    "You'd better learn to like them, that's what I say". The waiters never are rude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    It's quite obvious to all who have lived and worked in Thailand that inter-marriage isn't uncommon . . . what is uncommon is marrying outside the social status.



    Hongkies don't like mainlanders, Taiwanese don't like mainlanders, Singaporeans don't like mainlanders, Malaysians don't like mainlanders etc etc etc.

    No one does.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    OK kitty, sorry (i thought you wuz a TEFLer).
    Perhaps she's been a TEFLer for a really long time.

    Eh Misskit?


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    It doesn't matter. I gave up baiting TEFLers long ago (cheap shot). If they do a decent job, they're fine by me.

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    ^^You wanna make me cuss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^^You wanna make me cuss?
    Heheh

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    they're fine by me.
    That's very white of you

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    Long-awaited scene between China and the US gives the world relief: Global Times editorial

    By Global Times Published: Nov 15, 2022 01:29 AM


    "On Monday afternoon local time, Chinese President Xi Jinping had a meeting with US President Joe Biden in Bali, Indonesia. The scene of the two leaders shaking hands and smiling before the official meeting was sensitively captured by the global media and quickly spread around the world via internet. This long-awaited scene between China and the US has timely relaxed and comforted the world's tense emotions amid various crises and challenges. And it will be freeze-framed in a crucial place in the history of China-US relations.

    The international community generally expects China and the US to handle their relations well. This expectation is reflected in the international public opinion's scrutiny of every detail of the meeting between the two leaders, and their hope to find positive signs from it. It can be seen that everyone's feelings are similar. China-US relations have fallen to a low point since the establishment of diplomatic relations, and many people worry that China and the US will have a "new Cold War." The severe consequences of a possible military conflict between China and the US have made the international community filled with concerns. Under such circumstances, the fact that the heads of state of China and the US can sit together and talk candidly is a positive signal to the outside world, whatever they have talked about. This is a general tone of international media reports on this meeting.

    The meeting, which attracted worldwide attention, lasted 3 hours and 12 minutes. The two heads of state had a candid and in-depth exchange of views on strategic issues in China-US relations and major global and regional issues. Both sides expressed the basic willingness to engage in dialogue rather than confrontation, and win-win cooperation rather than zero-sum competition.

    President Xi profoundly pointed out the three layers of common interests between China and the US. It is in our mutual and fundamental interest to prevent conflict and confrontation and achieve peaceful coexistence. It is in our mutual interest to benefit from each other's development. It is also in our mutual interest to promote post-COVID global recovery, tackle climate change and resolve regional issues through China-US coordination and cooperation. "Under the current circumstances, China and the US share more, not less, common interests."

    Quite a few public opinions have noticed that the venue for this meeting is the Chinese delegation's residence in Bali, and the hotel where the US delegation is staying is about 10 minutes' drive away. Furthermore, this meeting was proposed by the US. In fact, it is not difficult to find that each time the continuous deterioration of China-US relations happens, it is due to the unilateral provocation by the US.

    As the saying goes, "whoever starts the trouble should end it." Only if the US takes the right attitude and practical actions can China-US relations return to the right track.

    During the meeting, US President Biden expanded the previous "Five Noes" commitment made by the US leadership

    (i.e. to not seek a new Cold War; to not seek to change China's system; that the revitalization of its alliances won't be against China; to not support "Taiwan independence"; to not look for conflict with China) and proposed that the US respects China's system, and does not seek to change it; the US does not seek a new Cold War, does not seek to revitalize alliances against China, does not support "Taiwan independence," does not support "two Chinas" or "one China, one Taiwan," and has no intention to have a conflict with China; the US side has no intention to seek "decoupling" from China, to halt China's economic development, or to contain China.

    We hope that the US can implement President Biden's commitment instead of always saying one thing and doing another. This is both about sincerity and integrity.

    China-US relations cannot deteriorate any further. In dealing with the huge and complicated bilateral relationship, it is impossible to solve all problems with just one meeting.

    However, the meeting between the two heads of state in Bali showed that the two major powers still have many common views, thus providing more space and possibilities for the two sides to further properly manage divergences on specific issues and promote mutually beneficial cooperation.

    During the meeting, the two heads of state instructed the working teams of the two sides to follow up and implement the important consensus reached in a timely manner, and take concrete actions to push China-US relations back to the track of stable development. This is undoubtedly worth expectation for the two countries and the world.

    We hope that the conclusion of this meeting will become a new starting point for broader communication between China and the US, as well as a starting point for the two to seek pragmatic cooperation through communication. China maintains continuity and stability in its US policy, and has always called on the US to meet China halfway, which is not only in the fundamental interests of the two countries and the two peoples, but also the common expectation of the international community. The goal of handling China-US relations well should not only be to avoid conflicts."


    Long-awaited scene between China and the US gives the world relief: Global Times editorial - Global Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    who believes the current POTUS's script.
    A lot more people than believe Mr. Shithole's torrent of bullshit.

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    Talking of his torrent of bullshit, I'm starting to think he's as thick as sabang.


    Chinese President Xi Jinping called for the world to avoid “weaponising” food and energy as the war in Ukraine and its economic fallout topped the agenda at the G20 leaders' summit in Bali.
    I wonder if someone will quietly explain to him who is blackmailing the west with fuel and grain supplies?

    I'd be happy to do it.

    My advice would begin with "Oi, c u n t".
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Chinese President Xi Jinping called for the world to avoid “weaponising” food and energy as the war in Ukraine and its economic fallout topped the agenda at the G20 leaders' summit in Bali.
    An actual link to your source would help your statement's validity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    An actual link to your source would help your statement's validity.
    This is Speakers.

    But of course there is this wonderful tool called Google.

    But you just stick your fingers in your ears and whinge as usual, no-one cares.

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