Thread: The View, from China

What do Thais think of chinkies? Hmmmmm good question.

Originally Posted by panama hat

^ They weren't even 'hungry', they were simply being . . .

Interesting how buffet or fixed price restaurants now have a charge for leftover food.

No prizes for guessing who that's aimed at.

The G7 foreign ministers also reminded China of the need to uphold the principles of the UN Charter on peaceful settlement of disputes and to abstain from threats or the use of force.

One would hope the chinkies listen, but I doubt it.

Exodus of students reported at Chinese college due to COVID

China’s Zhengzhou is struggling to contain a resurgence of COVID as students of a university were reportedly fleeing the campus following the lockdown of a Foxconn plant that disrupted iPhone production.


Floods of students from the Huanghe Science and Technology College in Henan’s Zhengzhou were seen departing on Tuesday (Nov. 8) as rumors of over 100 infections on campus triggered a panic, wrote a Chinese blogger.


A permit was supposedly required for an exit from the college but many decided to escape. The exodus involved more than 30,000 students, the blogger claimed.

There were reports of chaotic dining services at dormitories shut down to avoid the spread of the virus, prompting fears of cross-infection. Some also complained about being held at a Zhengzhou train station preventing them from leaving.


The incident followed an exodus of at least 100,000 anxious workers at a Foxconn factory in the city since mid-October amid an outbreak. Complaints have been filed about treatment and provisions for those staying and the Apple manufacturer has warned about delayed iPhone shipments amid a lockdown of the plant.


The company said Sunday (Nov. 6) it is asking employees to follow a “point-to-point” system under which they can only travel between the factory area and the dorms, per Reuters. A bonus will be offered to those who return, according to CNN, with work to resume as soon as the lockdown is lifted.

Exodus of students reported at Chinese college due to COVID | Taiwan News | 2022-11-10 10:26:00

China’s manufacturing hub Guangzhou locks down millions as Covid outbreak widens


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China’s southern metropolis of Guangzhou has locked down more than 5 million residents, as authorities rush to stamp out a widening Covid outbreak and avoid activating the kind of citywide lockdown that devastated Shanghai earlier this year.


Guangzhou reported 3,007 local infections on Wednesday, accounting for over one third of new cases across China, which is experiencing a six-month high in infections nationwide.


The city of 19 million has become the epicenter of China’s latest Covid outbreak, logging more than 1,000 new cases – a relatively high figure by the country’s zero-Covid standards – for five straight days.


As the world moves away from the pandemic, China still insists on using snap lockdowns, mass testing, extensive contact-tracing and quarantines to stamp out infections as soon as they emerge. The zero-tolerance approach has faced increasing challenge from the highly transmissible Omicron variant, and its heavy economic and social costs have drawn mounting public backlash.


The ongoing outbreak is the worst since the start of the pandemic to have hit Guangzhou. The city is the capital of Guangdong province, which is a major economic powerhouse for China and a global manufacturing hub.


Most cases in Guangzhou have been centered in Haizhu district – a mostly residential urban district of 1.8 million people on the southern bank of the Pearl River. Haizhu was locked down last Saturday, with residents told not to leave home unless necessary and all public transport – from buses to subways – suspended. The lockdown was initially supposed to last for three days, but has since been extended to Friday.

MORE China'''s manufacturing hub Guangzhou partially locked down as Covid outbreak widens | CNN

If only they'd bought a vaccine that worked...

Former justice secretary welcomes Beijing move to establish Hong Kong as international mediation centre

• Teresa Cheng, who stepped down as justice secretary in June, predicts the plan, which involves several countries, will boost the city
• Office to be set up in city to prepare for the establishment of international mediation body

Beijing will set up an office in Hong Kong to prepare for the establishment of a government-level international mediation body, a move praised by a former justice minister, who said the decision would cement the city’s status as a global dispute resolution centre.

Teresa Cheng Yeuk-wah, an arbitration specialist who stepped down as the secretary for justice in June, on Wednesday said the plan, which involves several other countries, was an acknowledgement of the city’s wealth of experience in the area.

Former justice secretary welcomes Beijing move to establish Hong Kong as international mediation centre | South China Morning Post

A better question:

Originally Posted by OhOh

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Zhao Lijian’s Regular Press Conference on November 9, 2022

"CCTV: Why do you keep building coal fired power stations and poisoning other peoples' lands with toxic pesticides?"

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why do you keep building coal fired power stations

Whilst China continues to reduce its accumulated/current carbon footprint at the pace as agreed to previously, it can smile.

Unlike other countries, which need to reduce their accumulated/current carbon emission. Those who are not meeting their "promised" reductions, are failing the world's demands.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

poisoning other peoples' lands with toxic pesticides

Far less harmful than the 16%'s:
Accumulated toxic pesticides, wars, stealing financial assets, economic rape, failed clearance of foreign lands of their explosive weapons left behind, virus manipulation sites, ....

Bamboo diplomacy: the China-SE Asia romance

Beijing’s ties with countries now in ASEAN tend to bend the bamboo way: soft, clever, persistent and enduring
by Pepe Escobar November 10, 2022

"The Association of Southeast Asian Nations is monopolizing the Asian and Global South spotlight for no fewer than 10 days, this week and the next, across a flurry of regional and international summits.

First stop is Phnom Penh for the 25th China-ASEAN summit, the 25th ASEAN Plus Three (APT) summit, and the 17th East Asia Summit, all the way to Sunday. Next week will be Bali for the Group of Twenty, followed by Bangkok for the APEC (Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation) summit.

No wonder the diplomatic spin across Southeast Asia is all about global governance entering the “Asia moment” – as coined by Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi. It’s a moment that may be set to last a century – and beyond. In parallel, Chinese diplomacy is also predictably on a roll. Premier Li Keqiang – who will step down next March, after two terms in office – heads Beijing’s delegation in Cambodia after two key Southeast Asian interactions: the visit by Vietnamese leader Nguyen Phu Trong to China and Chinese Vice-Premier Han Zheng’s visit to Singapore.

All that fits the pattern of increasing China-Southeast Asia integration. Since 2020, ASEAN has been China’s largest trading partner. China has been ASEAN’s top trading partner since 2009. Total China-ASEAN trade reached $878 billion in 2021, up from $686 billion in 2020. It had been $9 billion in 1991. China-ASEAN investment was more than US$340 billion by last July, according to the Ministry of Commerce in Beijing.

Interests particularly converge on deepening RCEP – the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, the largest trade deal on the planet. That translates in practice as closer integration of supply chains, infrastructure connectivity and the building of a new international land-sea trade corridor.

So it’s no wonder all the slogans for these 10 days of summits reflect closer integration. The ASEAN 2022 theme is “ASEAN A C T: Addressing Challenges Together.” The Indonesians defined the G20 as “Recover Together, Recover Stronger.” And the Thais defined APEC as “Open. Connect. Balance.”

Now bend that bamboo

Timing is everything. After the Communist Party Congress defined the parameters of “peaceful modernization” and how Beijing will develop globalization 2.0 with Chinese characteristics, diplomacy was ready to go on the offensive. And not only across Southeast Asia.

On South Asia, Beijing hosted Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif. Regardless of who holds power in Islamabad, Pakistan remains strategically crucial, with the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) connecting to the Western Indian Ocean, the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea and beyond toward Europe.

Pakistan cannot be left to implode under severe financial constraints. So it’s no wonder that Xi Jinping promised that “China will continue to do its best to support Pakistan in stabilizing its financial situation.

They were very specific on CPEC: Priorities are the construction of auxiliary infrastructure for Gwadar port in the Arabian Sea and to upgrade the Karachi Circular Railway project.

On Africa, Beijing hosted Tanzanian President Samia Suluhu. Beijing is constantly inviting African leaders to discuss trade and investment in a “South-South” format. So it’s no wonder the Chinese find receptivity to their ideas and necessities to an extent that’s absolutely out of the question in the West.

China-Tanzania is now a “comprehensive strategic cooperative partnership.” This is quite significant, because now Tanzania is on the same level as Vietnam and Cambodia, as well as Kenya, Zimbabwe and Mozambique, in China’s ultra-complex “friendship” hierarchy. Tanzania, incidentally, is a crucial source of soybeans.

On Europe, Beijing received German Chancellor Olof Scholz for a lightning-fast visit, leading a caravan of business executives. Beijing may not “save” Berlin from its current self-enforced predicament; at least it’s clear that German business will not go for “decoupling” from China

It’s crucial to remember that Vietnam, Pakistan and Tanzania are all key partners in the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). And the same applies to Germany: The Ruhr Valley is the privileged Belt and Road terminal in the European Union.

All that leaves the Quad, AUKUS, the “Indo-Pacific Framework” and the “Partners for a Blue Pacific” – different denominations of isolation/demonization of China – trailing in the dust. Not to mention the imperial drive to impose “decoupling.”

Beijing knows full well Singapore’s role as the essential Southeast Asian finance/tech node. Hence the signing of 19 bilateral deals, some related to high tech. But as far as optics go, the key visitor may have been Vietnam. Forget about their South China Sea tensions. For Beijing, what matters is that Nguyen Phu Trong came to visit immediately after the Communist Party conference – somehow echoing the centuries-old tribute system. Hanoi may have no interest whatsoever in being strategically dominated by Beijing. But demonstrating respect – and neutrality – is the Asian diplomatic way to go.

Trong made a point to note that “Vietnam considers its friendly cooperation with China the first priority of its foreign policy.”

That may not necessarily mean that Hanoi is privileging Beijing over Washington. The meaning of “first priority” seems to be clear: China and Vietnam agreed to turbocharge work on the Code of Conduct for the South China Sea. That also happens to be a key Chinese priority – as it keeps the process as an inter-Asian matter without the predictable “foreign interference.”

It was Trong himself who first came up with the fascinating idea of “bamboo diplomacy“: soft, clever, persistent and resolute. The concept may be easily applied to the whole of China-Southeast Asian relations.

Round up the jargon

This week in Phnom Penh, there are serious discussions on deepening the RCEP; problems on the food and energy front; and speeding up the negotiation of what is billed as the 3.0 version of the China-ASEAN Free Trade Area.

All that involves a key issue: the interconnection of BRI projects and ASEAN’s so-called Outlook on the Indo-Pacific – a series of ASEAN development strategies. A good example is the endless high-speed-rail saga related to connecting Yunnan province in southern China to Singapore.

The building of the Thai section was proposed even ahead of the Laos section. Yet Kunming-Vientiane was ready in record time – and is rolling – while the Thais have been endlessly haggling and lost in corruption and internal infighting: Only part of their section at best will be finished by 2028.

The same applies to Malaysia and Singapore still not finding an agreement. This is the case of a key connectivity corridor across Southeast Asia hobbled by internal and bilateral trouble. In parallel, the construction of the Jakarta-Bandung high-speed railway has proceeded with only a few bumps.
As much as China and ASEAN established an official comprehensive strategic partnership in 2021, several key BRI projects are intimately connected to Southeast Asia. After all, Xi Jinping launched the Maritime Silk Road concept in Jakarta more than nine years ago.

The same applies to solving the seemingly intractable issues of the South China Sea. The Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea was signed by Beijing and ASEAN 20 years ago.

In geopolitical terms, the 10-headed ASEAN hydra is a unique beast: a living lab of peaceful – civilizational – co-existence.

Trade has always been the secret weapon. It has always been a two-way road between China and Southeast Asia. History tells us that the willingness of Southeast Asian rulers to submit – even if symbolically – to China explains the predominant Make Trade Not War ethos.

The main exception was Vietnam, occupied by China from 111 BC until AD 963-979. But even as Vietnam became independent from China a millennium ago, it always remained deeply influenced by Chinese culture. In contrast, the Chinese who were assimilated into Thai culture gave up Confucianism and ended up adopting Indian court rituals.

In parallel, as Professor Wang Gungwu in Singapore always noted, paying tribute and requesting protection from the Chinese imperial dynasties never meant that Beijing could do what it wanted across Southeast Asia.

In the current incandescent geopolitical juncture, China is definitely not interested in playing divide and rule in Southeast Asia. Chinese strategic planners seem to understand that ASEAN carries a lot of soft power smoothing the big power play across Southeast Asia, offering a platform for all to engage with each other.

No one seems to mistrust ASEAN. That also explains why the Southeast Asians have come up with an acronym fest that basically hails cooperation – from ASEM and ASEAN+3 to APEC.

So it’s enlightening to remember that “China is prepared to open itself to ASEAN countries,” as Xi himself said when he launched the Maritime Silk Road in Jakarta in 2013. “China is committed to greater connectivity with ASEAN countries” – and “China will propose the establishment of an Asian infrastructure investment bank that would give priority to ASEAN countries’ needs.”

The bilateral relationships between China and each of the 10 members of ASEAN may carry their own particular complications. But there seems to be a consensus that no bilateral will determine the future of China-Southeast Asian relations.

The discussions this week in Phnom Penh and next week in Bali and Bangkok suggest that Southeast Asia has ruled out either extreme: paying tribute or demonizing China.

Across Southeast Asia the Chinese diaspora has been informally referred to for decades as “the bamboo internet.” The same metaphor would apply to China-Southeast Asia diplomacy:

Gotta go the bamboo way. Soft, clever, persistent – and enduring.

https://asiatimes.com/2022/11/bamboo...-asia-romance/

Originally Posted by OhOh

Bamboo diplomacy: the China-SE Asia romance

Beijing’s ties with countries now in ASEAN tend to bend the bamboo way: soft, clever, persistent and enduring

Yes, soft, clever, persistent and enduring bribery and loan sharking.

it's exporting its coal

Oh sure, 0.3% of the Worlds total coal exports-

Coal Exports by Country

Below are the 15 countries that exported the highest dollar value worth of coal during 2021.

1. Australia: US$43.9 billion (35.7% of total coal exports)
2. Indonesia: $26.5 billion (21.6%)
3. Russia: $17.6 billion (14.3%)
4. United States: $9.7 billion (7.9%)
5. South Africa: $6.08 billion (4.9%)
6. Canada: $6.05 billion (4.9%)
7. Colombia: $4.4 billion (3.6%)
8. Mongolia: $1.9 billion (1.5%)
9. Mozambique: $1.1 billion (0.9%)
10. Kazakhstan: $929 million (0.8%)
11. Netherlands: $882.5 million (0.7%)
12. Poland: $828 million (0.7%)
13. Philippines: $596.4 million (0.5%)
14. Mainland China: $419.4 million (0.3%)
15. Vietnam: $315.1 million (0.3%)

Coal Exports by Country 2021


China is the Worlds largest Importer of coal.

China tries to punish Australians by not importing anthracite. The Chinese buy it from Indonesia, presumably so they can bury it underground?

Originally Posted by sabang

Importer of coal.

Silly sabang, he's almost like hoohoo with his bullshit.

Let's face it, the world would be a better place if the chinkies got wiped off the face of the earth.

And there'd be a lot more animals, fish, etc.

Report: China emissions exceed all developed nations combined


China is the largest producer and consumer of coal in the world.

It is also the largest user of coal-generated electricity, with over a thousand coal-fired power stations.

Report: China emissions exceed all developed nations combined - BBC News

Not bullshit dumbo, China exported a whopping great 0.3% of the worlds coal in 2021- behind even the Philippines and Mozambique.
What is obvious bullshit is you coming out and dumbly writing that:-

"you're too thick to see that it's exporting its coal"

Keep it up 'arry.

Originally Posted by sabang

Not bullshit dumbo, China exported a whopping great 0.3% of the worlds coal in 2021- behind even the Philippines and Mozambique.
What is obvious bullshit is you coming out and dumbly writing that:-
Keep it up 'arry.

I realise that you're actually feeble-minded enough to try editing quotes, so I'll just restate the original:

The problem is you're too thick to see that it's exporting its coal and coal fired power stations to the countries its blackmailing with its loan sharking.

You know, like:

ISLAMABAD (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - With much of the world pouring investments into renewable and clean energy, Pakistan is drawing criticism for welcoming Chinese investment in coal-fired power plants as part of a plan to boost urgently needed generating capacity.

Pakistan ramps up coal power with Chinese-backed plants | Reuters

Oh, so when you typed coal that was just a slip of your typing fingers? You didn't really mean it, just coal fired stations? In spite of what you wrote? keep it up 'arry.

"arry is hilarious. Now you're not gonna be stoopid enough to say China is exporting it's coal, i presume?

Made in fucking China!

Based on the study summary, the researchers have now found evidence that the genome of Sars-CoV-2 could have been created through targeted manipulation.

If the findings of Valentin Bruttel and his colleagues are confirmed, then the Chinese state would probably be the cause of a pandemic that has killed hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. There had already been speculation in this direction several times. They have always been vehemently denied by Chinese officials.





https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...756v1.full.pdf

Originally Posted by sabang

Oh, so when you typed coal that was just a slip of your typing fingers? You didn't really mean it, just coal fired stations? In spite of what you wrote? keep it up 'arry.

What are you wittering on about? Are you trying to create another imaginary version of my post?

Is this some kind of feeble attempt to distract from the chinkies being the worlds biggest polluter?

Or perhaps you'd like to edit that comment so it says smallest or something.

You seem to get more pathetic and desperate by the day.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Made in fucking China!

Based on the study summary, the researchers have now found evidence that the genome of Sars-CoV-2 could have been created through targeted manipulation.

If the findings of Valentin Bruttel and his colleagues are confirmed, then the Chinese state would probably be the cause of a pandemic that has killed hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. There had already been speculation in this direction several times. They have always been vehemently denied by Chinese officials.

I think everyone already knows the chinkies are responsible for the Wuhan flu = and making things worse by hiding the fact until it was too late to control it.

They did the same with SARS.

They will do the same with the next virulent disease that jumps from animals to chinkies to humans after they've munched on a few rats or bats or whatever.