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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Cuba And China Exceed United States In Life Expectancy, Latest Report Says




    Life expectancy for people in Cuba and for China now exceeds that for people born in the United States. Cuba’s LEB rose from 57.6 years in 1950 to 79 years in 2021—an advance of over 21 years. In those years, China’s LEB moved from 43 years to 78.2 years—a 35.2-year increase—and LEB for Americans rose by 7.9 years. The Cuban and Chinese achievements of drastically improving life expectancy in a few years and from very low levels are remarkable.

    Cuba And China Exceed United States In Life Expectancy, Latest Report Says - The Hills Times


    Depending on the definition and data sets used, the point of convergence could've happened some time ago, in 2020 instead of 2021—and possibly not for the first time.
    The CDC's latest U.S. life expectancy statistic—76.1 years in 2021—is lower than China's own life expectancy estimate of 78.2 years in 2021.

    https://www.newsweek.com/china-us-life-expectancy-birth-2021-fact-check-1740991


    Sulking again, PH?


    Agreed. It does not indicate which population groups were included in those figures.

    Seems fairly clear that contentious regions of western influence may or may not have been included. Perhaps US data is more recent and relevant, because it takes account of Covid attributable deaths in the USA.

    I am deliberately not ​ignoring the prior decline in US mortality rates.

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    US life expectancy has declined because of covid and drug overdose.

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    Yes, sadly. I suspect different dietary habits may also be a contributory factor. One strange thing though is smoking- many of the males smoke like chimneys in both China and Japan. That surely does not help longevity.

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    Life Expectancy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    It does not indicate which population groups were included in those figures.
    Dead ones, mate

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    The View, from Chomsky

    This is a transcript, from a longer interview- which you can get or read in full by following the Link. Wise man, is Uncle Noam:-

    If I may, I’d like to add a word about something that was touched on but not developed sufficiently, in my view, and it’s highly significant: China. What’s happening with regard to China? It’s barely being reported, but it’s of supreme significance. There has been an agreement that’s held for 50 years. It’s called the One China policy, goes back to the '70s. The agreement is between U.S. and China that Taiwan is part of China — not in question. But neither party — U.S. or China — will act to disrupt the peaceful relations that persist. It's called strategic ambiguity. It’s held for 50 years. That’s a lot in world affairs. The United States is now undermining it. Pelosi’s reckless, stupid visit was one example, but more significant are two other things.

    One is that the United States — this has accelerated under the Biden administration — is promoting a policy of what’s called encircling China with sentinel states — basically, U.S. satellites — heavily armed with weapons aimed at China, precision weapons, to encircle it to keep it from the aggression that’s contrived in the U.S. propaganda.

    More significant still is what just happened a couple weeks ago. On September 14th, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee passed proposed legislation, bipartisan, almost unanimous, virtually calling for a war with China — not their words, of course. If you read the resolution, it called for substantially enhancing U.S. armaments to China [sic], changing relations — to Taiwan, sorry — changing relations with Taiwan to elevate Taiwan to the level of a non-NATO partner, to be treated as any other sovereign country diplomatically, moving towards interoperability of weapon systems with the United States. If you pay attention to what was happening in Ukraine for the last decade or so, that’s pretty much the program that was followed by the United States to move towards integrating Ukraine de facto into the U.S.-NATO military system. Senate Foreign Relations Committee is now proposing to do something quite similar with regard to Taiwan. It’s an extraordinary provocation, and it severely undermines the One China policy that had held. It’s barely discussed. In the background is the context of the encirclement program.

    This, it’s as if the Senate, a bipartisan Senate, is hell-bent on involving the United States in two major wars, each of which could be a terminal war. All of this is going on. It’s not secret. It’s not being discussed. Again, it’s as if some kind of insanity is pervading the social and political atmosphere.

    Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad: U.S. Must Stop Undermining Negotiations with Russia to End Ukraine War | Democracy Now!

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    All Roads (and Railways) Leading to China… and the West Ain’t Happy




    China’s ascendant global power is showing up the increasingly bankrupt condition of the United States and its Western allies.

    China is succeeding where the British, French and Japanese imperialist powers failed. This year saw the full operation of the China-Laos Railway, the first link in an ambitious Pan-Asian Rail Network that will integrate eight Southeast Asian nations designed to carry freight and millions of passengers.




    The city of Kunming in China’s southwestern province of Yunnan is the rail and road hub linking the world’s second-biggest economy to its southern neighbors. The Pan-Asian Rail Network covers Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand and Cambodia, converging on the port cities of Kuala Lumpur and Singapore (see map graphic).Kunming, already connected to Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou and other Chinese metropolises, is thus providing a gateway for the entire Southeast Asian region to global trading routes. It represents China’s world-spanning Belt and Road Initiative in action.

    The China-Laos segment of this transcontinental network was completed in December 2021 – on schedule after five years of construction – with a budget of $6 billion. The other regional segments are still under construction. A network of new motorway “expressways” complement the rail links, the configuration resembling a Chinese fan spreading out.The Pan-Asian Rail Network is planned for completion by 2030 at a total cost of $112 billion. Some 30,000 kms of tracks will be laid, carrying both high-speed and conventional speed trains. Beijing is financing up to 70 percent of the construction costs, with the remainder capitalized through bilateral loans. The overall design is backed by the inter-governmental trade bloc, the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN).
    It is an awesome mega-project that is aimed at boosting economic growth for the region. Inner land areas are to be opened up for agriculture, tourism and transport of goods.



    The author boarding the new high-speed China-Laos Railway via the Golden Triangle and Mekong River. China is building commercial links where the U.S. previously destroyed during the Vietnam War.

    Over a century ago, the British and French colonial powers attempted to build railways in Southeast Asia – and failed. A combination of world wars and financial burden derailed former projects. The Japanese imperialists tried to link Thailand and Myanmar (Burma) with an infamous railroad built by prisoners of war – and failed. Now China is laying down infrastructure based on a wholly different concept of partnership and joint development. All the signs indicate that China is succeeding.

    The achievement of the China-Laos rail link alone is impressive. It covers over 1,000 kilometers from Kunming to Vientiane, the Laotian capital. It required the building of hundreds of tunnels and bridges through mountainous territory spanning twice the meandering Mekong River.

    President Thongloun Sisoulith of Laos hailed the railway as “opening a new era of development and prosperity” for his landlocked and relatively poor nation of 7 million people. Largely funded by China, the rail link will open up Laos for trade with its giant northern neighbor and beyond. For China, the links to Laos and the other Southeast Asian nations provide additional access to land and sea routes to global markets. It’s a stellar example of the “win-win” philosophy that guides the comprehensive BRI vision espoused by Chinese President Xi Jinping.The Belt and Road Initiative was launched by President Xi in 2013. Already nine years old, the BRI has seen 146 nations joining the global partnership which is explicitly based on multipolar co-development. The Pan-Asian Rail Network is an embodiment of that vision.

    One would think that such a vision for mutual prosperity and peaceful partnership might be welcomed by all. Not so among the US-led Western powers and allies.

    American and allied news media have embarked on a relentless campaign to denigrate and demonize China and its BRI projects.

    The Australian Financial Review ran a recent article with the dubious headline: “Can the West Dismantle China’s Pan-Asian Railway Dream?” The article went on to say: “Fast train plans are a concern for Western nations worried about China’s growing influence in the region.

    ”The Financial Review doesn’t explain the means or legalities of “dismantling” these projects. Neither does it spell out the justification for “concerns” about China’s growing influence. The tacit assumption is based on a notion of Sinophobia and a self-ordained right by the West to destroy China’s investments and infrastructure projects. The self-appointed West evidently feels entitled to judge and act unilaterally – even criminally – with impunity and without consulting the opinion of countries that have embraced mutual partnerships with China.

    The U.S. government-owned Radio Free Asia continually alleges that China is seeking to dominate its regional neighbors through “debt traps”. On the newly opened rail link, the RFA reported: “Giant China, tiny Laos link up with launch of high-speed train”, and went on to assert that Beijing’s financing of the project was a means to dominate through debt.

    This “debt-trap” accusation is a recurring insinuation by Western media to undermine China’s bilateral relations. There is an arrogant assumption by Western powers that they know better than Laos and other BRI participating nations. There is also a dubious pretense that the United States and its allies are somehow the sole benefactors of other nations, uniquely looking out for their national well-being. The facts are contrary to such pretensions. It is the Western capitalist states that have historically used financial debt to subjugate and control developing nations for exploitation of their natural resources.

    Shouldn’t Western powers perhaps consult with China’s BRI partners about how they actually assess their prospects? In all the reams of negative reporting, Western media rarely if ever report the willing partnering with China of countries like Laos. It’s like their opinions don’t count. The United States and its Western allies simply presume to know better.

    Another recurring unsubstantiated allegation made by Western media is that China’s colossal infrastructure plans are causing large-scale ecological damage and displacing local farming communities. Somehow, Radio Free Asia cited precisely that “a total of 4,411” farming families were made landless by the China-Laos railway. The publication did not say how that seemingly exact figure was obtained. It did, however, admit that “most of them have been compensated”.

    Typically, no credible evidence is presented by Western media for claims of detrimental impact. This author journeyed on the China-Laos rail link at the end of September and viewed endless, rolling green landscapes, showing minimal ecological disruption beyond the laying of tracks. The same can be said for a new expressway road bridge under construction across the Mekong River between China and Laos. The verdant jungles surrounding the bridge and motorway worksites appeared untouched.

    The negative claims by the United States regarding China’s BRI in Southeast Asia and in Laos in particular are bitterly ironic. During the Vietnam War, the U.S. dropped over 260 million bombs on Laos between 1964-73 in a covert operation dubbed Rolling Barrel aimed at defeating the North Vietnamese army and Vietcong guerrilla. That criminal American aggression made Laos the “most bombed country in history” – exceeding the tonnage of explosives dropped during the Second World War. Over 50,000 Laotian people were killed by the American carpet bombing, which until today has left an odious legacy of deadly cluster bomblets scattered over the mountainous jungles. Indeed a major part of China’s rail construction involved extensive de-mining and clearing of American unexploded ordnance across remote terrain.

    Despite Western attempts to smear China’s BRI, it is pushing ahead unabated. Southeast Asia demonstrates eloquently that all roads and railways are leading to China which is set to supplant the United States as the world’s biggest economy. And the West is evidently not happy about that because it threatens U.S.-led hegemony and its ambitions of unipolar dominance.

    China’s ascendant global power, based on partnership and mutual development, is showing up the increasingly bankrupt condition of the United States and its Western allies. These has-been capitalist powers are coming off their rails, if not the owners of train-wreck economies.

    https://strategic-culture.org/news/2...st-aint-happy/

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    I am still trying to figure out how the US is encircling China. As far as I can tell, the US only has bases or allies on one side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    I am still trying to figure out how the US is encircling China
    West - Manama, south, Thailand, east - Pacific Ocean, north east South Korea, Japan.

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    Sure.

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    GT Voice: OPEC+ output cut points to US loss of control over global oil market


    By Global Times Published: Oct 10, 2022 09:11 PM

    "US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen criticized the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) and its allies' choice to cut oil output as "unhelpful and unwise" for the global economy, The Financial Times reported on Sunday.

    "We're very worried about developing countries and the problems they face," she said.

    While Yellen seemed to be concerned about how the emerging markets will respond to high energy prices, it is crystal clear whether it is the US economy or developing countries she was really worried about. If the US had truly cared about developing countries, the Federal Reserve would not have enacted such aggressive rate hikes, which have triggered capital outflow and financial turmoil in many countries this year.

    The move by OPEC+ could serve as the beginning of a major change in the global oil supply and demand pattern. With many countries around the world still facing an energy crisis, Saudi Arabia, Russia and other oil exporters should further coordinate with China, India and other developing countries on oil supply issues. This is because developing countries are often unable to compete with Western countries for energy supplies and thus are forced to deal with energy shortage."


    GT Voice: OPEC+ output cut points to US loss of control over global oil market - Global Times

    China's population has increased; employment remains stable over past decade: National Bureau of Statistics


    By Global Times Published: Oct 11, 2022 12:27 AM


    "China's population continued to expand and employment has remained stable over the past decade, with the population policy constantly adjusted and optimized and multiple measures taken to promote employment and to improve employment structure, China's National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) announced on Monday.

    In response to China's new demographic situation, including a declining birth rate and aging population, China eased the one-child policy in 2013, allowing families to have two children, and further allowed Chinese families to have three children in 2021 to stimulate the birth rate.

    The average annual number of newborns amounted to 16.2 million between 2012 and 2021. As of the end of 2021, China's population reached 1.41 billion, an increase of 53.38 million from the end of 2012, with an average annual growth of 5.93 million and an average annual growth rate of 0.4 percent.

    Meanwhile, Chinese people's education level has been significantly improved, their life expectancy has increased and their health has continued to improve over the past decade, according to the NBS.

    In 2020, the number of people with a senior high school education background or above reached 431.37 million, accounting for 30.6 percent of the population nationwide, 123.74 million more than in 2010.

    In 2020, the average length of schooling of the working-age population between 16 and 59 years old reached 10.8 years, and 43.8 percent of the population group received senior high school education or above."


    Continues at:

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1276864.shtml

    PLA Navy hospital ship completes 1st round of visits to islands, reefs of Xisha and Nansha


    Liu Xuanzun



    By Published: Oct 10, 2022 08:30 PM


    "The Youhao hospital ship of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy recently completed its first round of visits to islands and reefs of Xisha and Nansha in the South China Sea, with analysts saying that the ship, as a routinely deployed mobile force, will serve as a key complement to local hospitals.

    Having sailed for 18 days through nearly 4,000 nautical miles, the Youhao visited 13 islands and reefs of Xisha and Nansha, providing medical services to more than 5,000 people, China Central Television (CCTV) reported on Monday.

    This is the first time that the Youhao has embarked on such a mission since its commissioning in November 2020, CCTV said.

    More than 40 experts in multiple medical fields including critical cases and psychology from the PLA Southern Theater Command Navy First Hospital traveled with the ship, with Xisha's and Nansha's special environments including high temperatures, high humidity and high salinity in mind, the report said.

    The experts on the ship also shared their knowledge and experience with medical staff members stationed on the islands and reefs as well as other vessels in the region, as they analyzed the distribution of diseases and medical needs, and provided training programs, CCTV reported."


    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1276829.shtml

    China, EU extend currency swap for 3 years, in fresh sign of close economic ties


    By GT staff reporters Published: Oct 10, 2022 10:03 PM


    "The People's Bank of China (PBC), the country's central bank, on Monday revealed an extension of its local currency swap agreement with the European Central Bank (ECB) for another three years, in a fresh sign of closer ties between the two major currencies amid mounting pressure from a strong US dollar.

    By conducting currency swaps, the two sides' trade or financial transactions could have lower costs, as companies don't need to resort to a third-party currency, usually the US dollar, to complete the deals, market watchers said. It could also lower the risks of foreign exchange reserve shortages, as well as help promote the yuan's internationalization, they noted, reckoning the move will shore up China-EU trade.

    The PBC recently extended for three years a bilateral currency swap with the ECB worth 350 billion yuan or 45 billion euros ($49 billion), according to a statement issued by the PBC on Monday.

    The scale of the currency swap is unchanged from the previous rounds, the statement noted, saying that the deal will help deepen financial cooperation between China and Europe, boost the two sides' trade and investment, and maintain the stability of the financial market."


    China, EU extend currency swap for 3 yrs, in fresh sign of close economic ties - Global Times
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    West - Manama
    Let me get this straight.

    According to you, Bahrain is on the Chinkystan border is it?



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    My apologies,

    The Republic of the Union of Myanmar.

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    ^ WTF are you talking about? What has Myanmar and the US military got to do with each other?

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    He should stick to chewing crayons really.

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    Driving the people of Taiwan into foreign conflict with a superpower is about as useful to them as it has been to the people of Ukraine. I think they are more sensible than the Ukrainian government though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Driving the people of Taiwan into foreign conflict with a superpower is about as useful to them as it has been to the people of Ukraine. I think they are more sensible than the Ukrainian government though.
    So that’s what China has been doing all along?

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    The position of China vis-a'-vis Taiwan has not changed in over 60 years. There has been no war, beyond a sporadic war of words, and they enjoy a mutually beneficial and substantial trading relationship. The USA, indeed virtually all of the world, has officially recognised the One China policy for about 50 years. So what's the point in stirring the pot? I certainly don't see how it would help Taiwan if war breaks out- I just see a whole lot of dead Chinese people, on both sides of the Strait. But we both know who has the most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The position of China vis-a'-vis Taiwan has not changed in over 60 years. There has been no war, beyond a sporadic war of words, and they enjoy a mutually beneficial and substantial trading relationship. The USA, indeed virtually all of the world, has officially recognised the One China policy for about 50 years. So what's the point in stirring the pot? I certainly don't see how it would help Taiwan if war breaks out- I just see a whole lot of dead Chinese people, on both sides of the Strait. But we both know who has the most people.
    China needs to maintain conflicted status with Taiwan, because they know that Taiwan is perfectly content and successful as an inependant country.
    That really annoys XI and his communist hierarchy. The mainland communists would much prefer a weak Taiwan, so that it could be easily subsumed.

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    It is anything but a weak Taiwan. But if you did want a weak Taiwan- send them to war with China. Anyway, it's all laid out there in Post #2203 above.

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    No-one cares about your feeble propaganda bullshit, except your fellow wanketeers.

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    So have you joined up with your intellectual peers in NAFO yet 'arry? Shitposting legends.

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    I’d never heard of NAFO until you just posted this and looked them up. They have obviously gotten a lot of positive attention for what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    So have you joined up with your intellectual peers in NAFO yet 'arry? Shitposting legends.
    This from an idiot who thinks anyone is "Driving the people of Taiwan into foreign conflict with a superpower".

    When it's Mr. Shithole and the chinkies that have been banging the warmongering drum all this time.

    You're not very bright at all.

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    I’d never heard of NAFO until you just posted this
    Really? snubchild outed himself, right on this forum- to Helge actually. Quite amusing. So now you know what shitposting is, I assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    It is anything but a weak Taiwan. But if you did want a weak Taiwan- send them to war with China. Anyway, it's all laid out there in Post #2203 above.
    That’s just Chomsky’s opinion.
    Nowhere have I suggested that Taiwan is weak. I posit that a weak Taiwan is Chinas preference. I also posted that Taiwan remains happy and successful, despite Chinese whishes to the contrary.

    Your inability to read and understand has always been clear, even when you post your own opinions.

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