Thread: The View, from China

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Fat cats don't mind doing business with blood on their hands. They'll trouser any cash, chinky, russian, they won't care.

It’s an opinion piece. One of many. Oh-Woe obviously reaching for positives, however tenuous they might be.

Originally Posted by Switch

Penny Wong is Malaysian by birth. Your implied connection fails again.

Despite Sabang’s cheerleading he thinks all Asians look and are the same.

Just wiki Penny Wong, boneheads. She moved to Adelaide when she was eight, her father is Malaysian Chinese, her mother Australian. She is a Sth Australian state senator, and the first LBGT foreign minister. Good South Aussie girl- she is quite popular here.

You're the one that calls Chinese people scum hypocrite.

Originally Posted by sabang

You're the one that calls Chinese people scum hypocrite.

You have made countless racist comments against indigenous peoples in OZ, as well as black/African people. Calling a nation's people scum is not racist, and it is important to note that the Chinese are not a race but a nation state.

You on the other hand have singled out people for their skin color.

Hypocrite.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I call Mr. Shithole and anyone who supports him chinky scum.

Nice try Harry but the word Chinky is racist.

Now what about your other “scum” Irish, Russians, Catholics etc?

Posted on May 27, 2022 by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR

Indo-Pacific power dynamic in radical shift

"The joint air patrol over the waters of the Sea of Japan and the East China Sea on Monday by an air task force composed of Russian Tu-95MS capable of carrying nuclear weapons and Chinese H-6K strategic bombers couldn’t have been a knee-jerk reaction to US President Joe Biden’s Asia tour, leave alone his provocative remarks conjuring up an apocalyptic US-China war over Taiwan.

The Chinese Defence Ministry spokesman Senior Colonel Wu Qian pointed out that this has been the fourth strategic patrol jointly conducted by Russia and China since 2019, with the purpose of testing and improving the level of coordination between the two air forces, and promoting the strategic mutual trust and practical cooperation between the two militaries. As he put it, “This operation does not target any third party, and has nothing to do with the current international and regional situation.”

That said, perceptions do matter in strategic posturing and Japan’s defence minister Nobuo Kishi has enthusiastically rushed to endorse an interpretation that the timing of the Chinese-Russian operation had something to do with the QUAD summit taking place in Japan on that very same day.
Conceivably, Kishi was on a cover-up, distracting attention away from the new geopolitical reality in the Far East. Indeed, the rebirth of militarism and revanchist sentiments in Japan, in a historic departure in the country’s post-World War 2 pacifist posture, with overt American encouragement and backing, provides the broader context for a Sino-Russian congruence. Ominously enough, Japan has lately switched to a diplomatic idiom to refer to the Kuril Islands as “occupied” territory, implying that Russia is an aggressor — although the historical truth may be vastly different.

Again, Japan has been flexing muscles lately as a ‘front-line state’ in imposing sanctions against Russia (including against President Putin) although in all of its history or politics or geography, the land of the rising sun has had nothing to do with the Russian borderlands in Ukraine. Above all, Japan has been overzealous in drawing a fanciful comparison between the situation around the Taiwan Straits and Ukraine.

Whichever way one were to look at it, Monday’s operation displayed a very high level of military cooperation between China and Russia at a juncture when the two countries are facing new provocations and added pressure from the US. Quite obviously, Beijing pooh-poohs the US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin’s declaration in late April that Washington wanted to see Russia weakened militarily “to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine” and will be unable to recover quickly.

Given the close foreign-policy coordination between China and Russia, it is entirely conceivable that Beijing has an insightful knowledge of the actual state of play in Russia’s special operation in Ukraine.
On the other hand, it is a reasonable surmise after Monday’s joint strategic air patrol by China and Russia on Monday that Beijing has pushed back the Western attempts to browbeat it on the Ukraine issue. Clearly, on Monday, Beijing was risking “a major reputational damage ,” in the western world — to borrow the threatening words of the EU’s executive president Ursula von der Leyen after “a very frank and open” videoconference with the Chinese leadership in early April.

What emerges are three things. One, Beijing continues to adhere to the letter and spirit of the joint statement of February 4 with Russia on the International Relations Entering a New Era and the Global Sustainable Development which was issued during President Vladimir Putin’s meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing. Two, in the Chinese perspective, the three-month old Russian operation in Ukraine, which began on February 24, has not changed the current imperatives of the international situation characterised by rapid development and profound transformation where “Some actors representing but the minority on the international scale continue to advocate unilateral approaches to addressing international issues and resort to force; they interfere in the internal affairs of other states, infringing their legitimate rights and interests, and incite contradictions, differences and confrontation, thus hampering the development and progress of mankind, against the opposition from the international community.” (February 4, 2022)

Third, Moscow and Beijing are circling the wagons, so to speak, in the Far East. Evidently, the Ukraine conflict is not preventing the US from pushing ahead with the NATO expansion and there is every reason to believe that the alliance’s next ‘line of defence’ will be moved to the South China Sea. The Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov pointed out on Thursday that belligerent western politicians are stating publicly that the alliance should have global responsibility, and that NATO should be responsible for the security in the Pacific region. Moscow and Beijing cannot be faulted if their anticipate that major decisions in this regard are expected at the forthcoming NATO summit meeting in Madrid on June 28-30.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said on Thursday that “NATO has publicly stated on many occasions that it will remain a regional alliance, it does not seek a geopolitical breakthrough and it does not seek to expand to other regions. However, in recent years, NATO has entered the Asia-Pacific region repeatedly. Some NATO member states keep sending aircraft and warships to carry out military exercises in waters off China’s coast, creating tensions and disputes. NATO has been transgressing regions and fields and clamoring for a new Cold War of bloc confrontation. This gives ample reason for high vigilance and firm opposition from the international community.”

Russia and China have given up hopes of any moderation in the US’ adversarial mindset. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said today, “The West has declared total war against us, against the entire Russian world. Nobody even hides this fact now.” For the first time since 2006, Russia and China on Thursday vetoed a US-drafted United Nations Security Council resolution to strengthen sanctions on North Korea.
In and address on Tuesday at Georgetown University, titled The Administration’s Approach to the People’s Republic of China, designed to rally the international community to deter and counter China, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken stated that the coalition that Washington mustered to counter Russia in Ukraine presents a model both agile and well-resourced in how to face future challenges from China. "

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More jingly nonsense. Do you swallow this in one gulp hoohoo?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

More jingly nonsense. Do you swallow this in one gulp hoohoo?

He is without a doubt a bot. Everything he posts is utter trash, only to be swallowed by imbeciles like the Three Stooges.

According to the Fox News website in the United States reported on May 17th, Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk said this week that the United States must "stop infighting" to compete with China, and warned that the world's second-largest economy will one day surpass the United States. The total economy.

The report said that Musk told the host of a podcast program on Monday night: "What kind of China will we see in the future. It will become an economy with an economy twice the size of the United States and possibly three times the size of the United States. It will be quite unusual to live in such a world. "Musk went on to say: "Therefore, the United States had better stop infighting and stop attacking ourselves. There are countless things that Americans attack themselves. It's really stupid. Let's think about ‘We must be competitive.’ "

He said: "A new guy who enters the game will be two to three times the size of us. We'd better step up our actions and stop the infighting. "According to the report, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, the total U.S. economy in 2021 will be about 23 trillion U.S. dollars. At the same time, the National Bureau of Statistics of China said that China's total economy is about 17.7 trillion U.S. dollars.

The report said that on Monday, when asked by the host how to deal with political issues, Musk said that U.S. CEOs should focus on their own business. He said: "The purpose of a company is to produce useful products and services for mankind. This is not a place for political gatherings.

"The report said that Tesla, headquartered in Austin, Texas, has a wide range of businesses in China.Of the 935,222 cars sold by Tesla last year, Chinese consumers bought about half. Musk said that in the long run, 25% to 30% of Tesla's car market share will come from China.In early 2019, Tesla broke ground on its super factory in Shanghai, which is the first automobile manufacturing plant in China to be 100% owned by a foreign automaker.

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Fancy Elon sucking up to the chinkies to sell more cars and get favours?

Who'da thunk it?

What is it that you're so excited about?

Hardly insignificant.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

but a chart like that doesn't paint a true picture

I agree. This is an annually published list of, allegedly, the best performing, eligible, global companies and ranked by revenues.

Methodology

"Companies are ranked by total revenues for their respective fiscal years. Included in the survey are companies that are incorporated in the U.S., operate in the U.S., and file financial statements with a government agency ...."

Methodology for Fortune 500 | Fortune

Which may or not be desirable by all companies. Market share, profits, investment, production/product upgrades .... are other factors to be balanced. Hit their 3 year bonus number and sell the company to another, who believes they can run it "better".

Originally Posted by David48atTD

but a chart like that doesn't paint a true picture

The above chart is a ten-year snapshot, rather than naming individual companies, names by country presumably by origin. As a country, China has increased its number substantially, NaGastan has diminished its number, slightly.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

it doesn't delve into the sustainability of their growth

The list is created annually. The graph being country based rather than company based will only indicate the total of two countries. As such, individual company sustainability is not a considered factor.

Some companies will remain, some will be included, and some drop out.

However, the increase in China's growth in the Forbes 500 list, must be from other non illustrated countries. As the difference in total numbers of both countries is only 21.

Some companies desire/demand high placings by Forbes, helps their share demand and helps those advising's punters bonuses, I suspect.

Xinjiang visit 'unsupervised' and 'open,' UN human rights chief says as she wraps up China trip


By GT staff reporters Published: May 29, 2022 01:36 AM

"By stressing her trip is not an investigation, UN human rights chief Michelle Bachelet ended her six-day visit in China and its Xinjiang region with a statement on Saturday night and said her mission had wide and open discussions with people from different sectors in the region, including prisoners and former trainees of vocational education and training centers and all these meetings were organized by her delegation.

The Saturday statement dismissed the rampant disinformation on the Xinjiang region and was also a slap to the US and some Western countries, their media and anti-China forces. Before and during Bachelet's visit to China's Xinjiang region, the US and some Western countries, together with anti-China forces are busying in questioning and opposing Bachelet's visit - a U-turn from their previous vehement call for UN human rights chief's visit. Analysts said that with their lies of the century, especially the "genocide" allegation going to be debunked via Bachelet's visit, the US and anti-China forces are increasing pressure on Bachelet and finding the ladder to continue their lies

Bachelet said at the Saturday press conference that they had conversations with people from different sectors, including senior officials from Xinjiang, local ethnic residents, academics, religious leaders, visited a prison to talk with inmates, and went to former vocational education and training centers and had exchanges with former trainees.

All these meetings were "unsupervised and organized by us," said the High Commissioner when taking questions from the media and offering details on her visit in the Xinjiang region.

"This visit was not an investigation," Bachelet said in the statement and emphasized again when answering questions from media and she noted that the trip was aimed to have direct discussion with the Chinese government and listen to each other's concerns and explore the way for "more regular, meaningful interactions in the future."

Soon after Bachelet's press conference, Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Ma Zhaoxu briefed the media that the visit provided an opportunity to observe and experience first-hand a real Xinjiang amid many sensational palpable lies made by certain Western countries and anti-China elements to fulfill their motives of using the Xinjiang region to contain China.

The current statement is relatively objective as the Office of the UN High Commissioner has an independent mechanism with various experts specialized in different fields to make assessments on China's policies. The West may get a glance of the report and this is also why their attacks on China over Xinjiang topics have reached a new crescendo recently, Zhu Ying, a professor from the Baize Institute at Southwest University of Political Science and Law, told the Global Times.

There is no so-called genocide in China's Xinjiang region and the allegations made by the West are based on various lies. Their opinions cannot represent the international opinion and neither will they make the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights their puppet, Zhu said, noting that the online conference served to dismiss disinformation, introduced the world the nature of her visit and showed the role of the High Commissioner.

Bachelet also noted in the statement that her team was also having discussions with the Chinese government on how national legislation and practices must reflect international human rights laws and standards, particularly in relation to law enforcement and judicial procedure.

Bachelet said she encouraged the government to undertake a "review" of all counterterrorism and de-radicalization policies to ensure they fully comply with international human rights standards.

The Western media are hyping China's "victory" with Bachelet's visit - this is the trap they set for China. Protecting human rights is a country's obligation and there is no so-called winner or loser. China's human rights developments are for its people and if there is a winner, the Chinese people are the biggest winners, said Zhu.

The US and others forces have ramped up efforts to attack Bachelet as they felt worried - after attacking China on Xinjiang for more than three years, their lies are going to be debunked, Xu Jianying, a research fellow at Chinese Borderland Research Institute of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times.

Xu noted that just as State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi said when meeting with Bachelet in Guangzhou on May 23, this trip is "a trip of enhancing mutual understanding, a trip of strengthening cooperation, and a trip of clarifying matters." The development in the Xinjiang region also offers China the confidence to fully displayed its human rights views.

At Saturday's press conference, Bachelet also said that "It would be presumptuous of me to try to encapsulate the full complexity of this vast country's human rights situation in one statement but allow me to highlight the key topics we were able to discuss at length." Bachelet also briefly introduced China's poverty alleviation and its efforts on supporting the multilateral 2030 Agenda and the Sustainable Development Goals.

However, Xu noted that the tones of the UN may alter given the US pressure but this visit is still a good start for China and the High Commissioner to have more candid communications and for many UN officials to have a better understanding of the Xinjiang region.

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Xinjiang visit 'unsupervised' and 'open,' UN human rights chief says as she wraps up China trip - Global Times

Samoa, China agree on mutually beneficial, win-win cooperation

Xinhua | Updated: 2022-05-28 18:04

"APIA - Samoan Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Fiame Naomi Mata'afa met with visiting Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi here on Saturday, with both sides reaffirming commitment to the mutually beneficial and win-win cooperation.

During their talks, Fiame congratulated the Communist Party of China (CPC) on its centennial last year and wished the 20th National Congress of the CPC a great success.

The prime minister said that she has paid many visits to China whose development path and people-centered concept she appreciates, and expressed hope that her country can conduct exchanges with China on the experiences on economic growth and poverty alleviation.

Meanwhile, she reaffirmed Samoa's steadfast commitment to the one-China principle as well as non-interference on the Taiwan question.

The Samoa-China cooperation has reaped remarkable results in various fields, with Samoa's infrastructure effectively improved and agricultural modernization enhanced, said Fiame.
Samoa will continue its efforts to boost the bilateral partnership featuring mutual respect, mutual trust, mutual benefit and win-win results.

For his part, Wang congratulated the Pacific island nation on the 60th anniversary of its independence, and expressed appreciation for the development of friendship between China and Samoa over the past nearly half a century since their establishing diplomatic ties, and for Samoa having adhered to the one-China principle unswervingly and supported China safeguarding its core interests.

China has always advocated that all countries are equal regardless of their sizes and strengths, Wang said, noting that as the world's largest developing country, China has always stood on the side of the developing countries and worked to seek justice for smaller nations, Wang said.

He said developing countries need to strengthen unity amid the once-in-a-century changes.
China is willing to spare no effort in supporting developing countries, including Pacific island nations in speeding up their development and revitalization, Wang said, adding that, in doing so, China has never interfered in the internal affairs of any country, has never added political conditions, and has never sought geopolitical interests.

China is willing to achieve development and prosperity together with other developing countries and hence make the world fairer, said the Chinese foreign minister.

He said the cooperation between China and other developing countries including Pacific island nations targets no third party and seeks no exclusive rights or interests.

China has no intention of competing with other countries, and has always opposed the zero-sum game, said Wang, adding that China is willing to enhance communication with whichever country that cares for Pacific island nations, Australia and New Zealand in particular, to conduct more trilateral cooperation, giving full play to the parties' respective advantages, and based on respecting the island nations' will.

The two sides also exchanged views on climate change during the meeting.

Wang said the Chinese side has established a cooperation center for China and Pacific island countries on climate change, and that China is willing to continue to help small island countries strengthen their capacity building in tackling climate change within the framework of the South-South cooperation.

Wang, in the meantime, urged developed countries to earnestly take on the historical responsibilities in emissions reduction and fulfill their obligations.

The Samoan prime minister expressed her approval of Wang's remarks, and said that coping with climate change has become an important field of cooperation between Pacific island countries and China, expecting that the cooperation center between China and Pacific island countries on climate change will play an active role.

The pair, after the meeting, attended a signing ceremony of documents on economic, technical and cultural cooperation."

Samoa, China agree on mutually beneficial, win-win cooperation - World - Chinadaily.com.cn

I've been reading the same article in one shape or another since Y2000. Meanwhile-

Not all GDP contributions to the globe are positive. Especially so in regard to China. Also 2022 is going to be far worse than that projection for China since the entire country is shut down due to covid.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Xinjiang visit 'unsupervised' and 'open,' UN human rights chief says as she wraps up China trip

I can't seem to find any reference to the prison camps she visited.

Perhaps you could elucidate?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I can't seem to find any reference to the prison camps she visited.

Perhaps you could elucidate?

UN human rights chief Michelle Bachelet, whose rare visit to China was criticized by rights groups and Western countries, said she urged Beijing to review its counter-terrorism policies to ensure they comply with international human rights standards.Bachelet reiterated, however, that her six-day trip, which ended on Saturday and included a visit to the western region of Xinjiang, was not an investigation into China's human rights policies but an opportunity to engage with the government.

Washington, meanwhile, said it "remains concerned" about Bachelet's trip -- which it believes China could use for propaganda purposes.

Bachelet started her China trip, the first by a UN Human Rights High Commissioner in 17 years, on Monday in the southern city of Guangzhou before heading to Xinjiang.

Her office said last year it believed Uyghurs in Xinjiang had been unlawfully detained, mistreated and forced to work.

"I have raised questions and concerns about the application of counter-terrorism and deradicalisation measures under broad application, particularly the impact on the rights of Uyghurs and other predominantly Muslim minorities," she said during an online press briefing on Saturday.

China denies all accusations of abuse in Xinjiang.

Bachelet's access was limited as China arranged for her to travel in a "closed loop" -- isolating people within a virtual bubble to prevent the spread of Covid-19 -- with no foreign press.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Washington "remains concerned" about Bachelet's trip to China.

"We are concerned the conditions Beijing authorities imposed on the visit did not enable a complete and independent assessment of the human rights environment in (China), including in Xinjiang, where genocide and crimes against humanity are ongoing," Blinken said in a statement late on Saturday.

The United States was "further troubled" by reports Xinjiang residents were pressured not to complain about conditions in the area.

"The High Commissioner should have been allowed confidential meetings with family members of Uyghur and other ethnic minority diaspora communities in Xinjiang who are not in detention facilities but are forbidden from traveling out of the region," he said.

Rights groups and Western countries worry that China will use her trip as an endorsement of its rights record. US State Department spokesman Ned Price had said on Tuesday it was "a mistake to agree to a visit under the circumstances."

China initially denied the existence of any detention camps in Xinjiang but in 2018 said it had set up "vocational training centers" necessary to curb what it said was terrorism, separatism and religious radicalism in the region.

Bachelet said she raised with the Chinese government the lack of independent judicial oversight on the operation of the centers and allegations of the use of force, ill-treatment and severe restrictions on religious practice.

In 2019, Xinjiang Governor Shohrat Zakir said all trainees had "graduated."

During the media briefing, Bachelet also described as "deeply worrying" the detention in Hong Kong of activists, lawyers and journalists.

US 'troubled' as UN rights chief urges China to review counter-terrorism policies - CNN