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    Don't know

    What I hear is, that they doubt their ability to control a major outbreak in the greater cities

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    How the fuck did this make it to 100 pages?

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    Chinese police out in force in attempt to deter Covid lockdown protests

    Barriers erected on street where demonstrations have been held against rigid coronavirus policies

    Chinese police have launched a show of force across the country in an effort to head off further protests against the government’s rigid zero-Covid policies and tackle what have become the most extraordinary acts of civil disobedience in the country for decades.


    Dozens of police cars lined the streets around a central Beijing subway station and patrolled surrounding blocks on Monday evening, while uniformed and plain-clothed officers stood guard at station exits and stopped passersby for questioning.

    Hours after the scheduled start of a protest organised via encrypted messaging apps there were few apparent participants.


    Chinese police out in force in attempt to deter Covid lockdown protests | China | The Guardian
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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Why is China having such huge problems with Covid where the rest of the world seems to be "okay". In the USA, very few are wearing masks and social gatherings are the norm. Does China have a new variant?
    Because their vaccines are shit and if it runs wild they'll have numbers that eclipse anyone else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Because their vaccines are shit and if it runs wild they'll have numbers that eclipse anyone else's.
    Bingo and even though proven better vaccines are available the fools are too proud to admit theirs is not up to par. Easier to lock folks up and deal with the protests as they always have.

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    What are Chinese thinking when they are watching the World Cup Qatar 2022?
    Why are these people in the stadium not wearing mask?
    Aren't we suppose to be superior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Don't know

    What I hear is, that they doubt their ability to control a major outbreak in the greater cities
    If the communist bastards open the borders Chinkystan will collapse. Chinese will be dropping like flies.

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    Tanks on streets of China rekindles fears of Tiananmen Square

    Several military tanks have rolled through the streets of China as Chinese officials ramp up their crackdown against demonstrators who are protesting against Xi Jinpings disastrous zero-Covid policy, sccording to a media report.


    A video shows a steady stream of tanks trundling through the eastern city of Xuzhou on Monday night, Daily Mail reported.


    The footage will rekindle memories of the Tiananmen Square massacre of 1989, when hundreds - if not thousands - of Chinese protesters were killed by soldiers in tanks, the report said.


    Xi Jinping's Communist Party officials have ramped up their crackdown on demonstrators, with police officers seen wrestling with protesters before dragging them away.


    A dramatic video shows a woman screaming as she is arrested by six police officers and dragged away from a main square in Hangzhou, as Chinese officials sought to crack down on protesters in the city.


    A man is seen trying to stop the police from arresting the woman by shouting at them, but two officials were seen running at the protester and screaming at him to get back, Daily Mail reported.


    Footage also shows a huge crowd of protesters trying to stop a group of police officers from arresting two men in Hangzhou. But the officers were seen wrestling with the protesters and dragging the two demonstrators away while holding the scruff of their collars.


    While police officers were dragging protesters away on Monday night, military tanks rolled through the streets of Xuzhou.


    Locals questioned whether the tanks were heading to Shanghai, but others said it was possible the tanks were merely returning from military manoeuvres.


    Hundreds of protesters have taken to the streets since the weekend in protest against China's harsh zero-Covid policy.


    They mark the largest anti-government demonstrations China has seen since the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989, Daily Mail reported.

    Tanks on streets of China rekindles fears of Tiananmen Square

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    China sends students home, police patrol to curb protests

    BEIJING (AP) — Chinese universities sent students home and police fanned out in Beijing and Shanghai to prevent more protests Tuesday after crowds angered by severe anti-virus restrictions called for leader Xi Jinping to resign in the biggest show of public dissent in decades.


    Authorities have eased some controls after demonstrations in at least eight mainland cities and Hong Kong but maintained they would stick to a “zero-COVID” strategy that has confined millions of people to their homes for months at a time. Security forces have detained an unknown number of people and stepped up surveillance.


    With police out in force, there was no word of protests Tuesday in Beijing, Shanghai or other major mainland cities that were the scene last weekend of the most widespread protests since the army crushed the 1989 student-led Tiananmen Square pro-democracy movement.


    In Hong Kong, about a dozen people, mostly from the mainland, protested at a university.


    MORE China sends students home, police patrol to curb protests | AP News

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    Amazingly, the chinkies think that if they try and blame America for the fact that their people are fucked off with living under a shitty dictator, people will believe it.

    On Chinese social media, America is being blamed for the recent protests | World News | Sky News

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    What are Chinese thinking when they are watching the World Cup Qatar 2022?
    Enjoying a football match between some of the world's best national teams.

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Why are these people in the stadium not wearing mask?
    There are no "rules" requiring them. IIRC there have been some in the stadia, it's an Asian thing.

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    Aren't we suppose to be superior?
    Who are you referring to as, "we"?

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    If the communist bastards open the borders Chinkystan will collapse
    The borders are open. Millions of Chines leave and return every year.

    Your serve.
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    How the fuck did this make it to 100 pages?
    Emerging China, or the 'Rise of China' is the biggest story of this century. Why the fuck wouldn't it? But it may also have something to do with my sex appeal.

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    UK's accusing of China 'assaulting' BBC journalist a serious distortion of the facts: FM spokesperson


    By Global Times Published: Nov 29, 2022 08:32 PM Updated: Nov 29, 2022 08:30 PM

    "In response to UK prime minister Rishi Sunak's accusation of a BBC journalist "being assaulted" in China, a spokesperson from China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs rebuked that remarks from the UK as a serious distortion of the facts and said the remarks constitute grave interference in China's internal affairs, and that China is firmly against this.

    In his first foreign policy speech on Monday, Sunak criticized China's handling of the zero-COVID policy — including "assaulting" BBC journalist Ed Lawrence — and said China posed "a systemic challenge to our values and interests."

    In response, ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said during a Tuesday briefing that on the night of November 27, to maintain public order, local police in Shanghai asked people who had gathered at a crossroads to leave. One of those at the scene is a resident journalist from the BBC. Though the police made it clear to the journalist and others that they needed to leave, the journalist refused to leave and during the entire time did not identify himself as a journalist.

    The police then took him away from the scene. After verifying his identity and informing him of pertinent laws and regulations, the police let go of him. Everything was conducted within legal procedures. This BBC journalist refused to cooperate with the police's law enforcement efforts and then acted as if he were a victim. The BBC immediately twisted the story and massively propagated the narrative that its journalist had been "arrested" and "beaten" by police while he was working, simply to try to paint China as the guilty party. This deliberate distortion of truth is all too familiar as part of the BBC's distasteful playbook, said Zhao.

    Zhao said that while having the right to report news in accordance with the law in China, foreign journalists need to consciously follow Chinese laws and regulations. When conducting reporting and interviews, journalists need to present their press credentials first, and they should not engage in activities incompatible with their capacity as journalists.

    This applies to all media organizations and is not about freedom of the press. Many foreign media organizations have presence in China. How come the BBC is always involved in troubles at the scene? This is a question that requires some serious thinking, he asked.

    Zhao also raised some questions for the UK.

    First, how does the British government handle domestic protesters, Zhao asked, saying that in 2020, the UK police arrested more than 150 people when Londoners took to the street to protest against COVID lockdown. In 2021, the UK police arrested more than 200 people in large-scale demonstrations triggered by the government's public expenditure cuts. Publicly available videos show that UK police officers ruthlessly kicked and beat one unarmed protester and did not stop even when the protester was left exposed in little clothing and was crying and begging for mercy.

    Second, how does the British government treat journalists? Zhao pointed out that a few years ago, a Chinese journalist was repeatedly hampered and even physically assaulted and eventually convicted by a British court, only because she had exercised her legitimate right as a journalist and raised a question to express her opinions at a fringe event of the Conservative Party's conference. Graham Phillips, a UK journalist, became the first British citizen placed on the country's sanctions list, only because he had created media content not to the liking of the West.

    Third, how does the BBC report China, he asked? From applying a gloomy filter to painting China in a negative light to distorted reports on Xinjiang and Hong Kong, many people still remember well the BBC's disreputable history of smearing and attacking China. Since 2019, the BBC has been ignoring the Hong Kong rioters' violent behavior and accusing Hong Kong police of brutality. On Xinjiang, based only on several non-photorealistic satellite images and reports written by anti-China elements, BBC journalists stationed in Beijing propagated "lies of the century" to slander Xinjiang. On the COVID pandemic, the BBC even used a counter-terrorism drill video as "proof" of the so-called China's violence in epidemic prevention. Why did the BBC always show up on those scenes? Is the job of BBC journalists to report news or fabricate news?

    The UK must respect facts, act prudently, and end its hypocritical practice of double standards, said Zhao.

    China's ambassador to the UK has been summoned to the Foreign Office amid a diplomatic row over the incident involving the BBC journalist, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday, citing a UK government source.

    Chinese Ambassador to Britain Zheng Zeguang said that the UK side is now falsely claiming that the journalist had been "arrested" and "beaten" by Chinese police. Such a groundless accusation is a distortion of the truth and malicious slander and is totally unacceptable to the Chinese side.

    Foreign journalists have the right to report news in China, but they need to follow Chinese laws and regulations while doing their work. When reporting and interviewing, journalists need to present their press credentials first and not engage in activities incompatible with their capacity as journalists, said Zheng.

    This applies to all media organizations and has nothing to do with the question of freedom of the press. The UK should enhance its education of journalists sent to China by UK media outlets, require them to follow local laws and regulations and journalism ethics and not engage in activities incompatible with their capacity as journalists. The UK side must respect facts, be prudent in what it says or does and stop its practice of double standards, said the ambassador."

    UK's accusing of China 'assaulting' BBC journalist a serious distortion of the facts: FM spokesperson - Global Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Amazingly, the chinkies think that if they try and blame America
    SKY News.


    SOP NaGaStan/vassal actions for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Easier to lock folks up and deal with the protests as they always have.
    Or bury it by illegal decree.

    The freedom for discussion is reinstated in NaGaStan, "rules" have changed.

    Mabe discussion has been reinstated. Who will dare speak out?



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    This is what "The Free World" thinks of Chinkystan and his dictator:

    The Norwegian newspaper DAGBLADET recalls that... "...five weeks ago, more than two thousand delegates at the Communist Party Congress in Beijing proclaimed Xi dictator for life and applauded his zero-Covid policy. Now Xi is being attacked from several sides because his corona policy is actually a disaster for the country and its people. Xi still doesn't want to admit any mistakes, although the Chinese are also watching football World Cup games from Qatar, where people from all over the world sit in the stands and hug each other." That's the DAGBLADET from Oslo.

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    "This level of public dissent has not been seen since the pro-democracy protests in China in 1989," Singapore's THE STRAITS TIMES points out. "It shows that the patience of many citizens, some of whom have been under house arrest for 100 days or more stand, visibly ends. While China has had occasional public protests and even some violence in the past, the anger is now directed not just at the lockdown measures but at President Xi Jinping personally.”

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    The Dutch newspaper TROUW from Amsterdam points out that the students are also protesting: “The force of the protests that began on Saturday evening can hardly be overestimated. According to some reports, demonstrations also took place at around 50 universities across the country. These gave the protests a political touch. Some students blamed President Xi personally and called for regime change.”

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    DIE PRESSE from Vienna adds: “The leadership in Beijing may be facing its biggest crisis to date. Xi is left with a series of bad options. If he admits mistakes in his strict zero-Covid policy, that would be interpreted as a weakness. A brutal crackdown on the protests would likely only fuel people's anger. It is not uncommon for dictators and authoritarian leaders to start wars under pressure in order to strengthen themselves internally: the events in Taiwan's capital Taipei will certainly be observed very closely."

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    "In view of the nationwide street protests following the high-rise fire in Urumqi, one cannot help but think of Mao Tse-tung's saying that a single spark is enough to start a conflagration," reads the Taiwanese newspaper LIANHE RIBAO: "The greatest protest in China for 30 years is a major blow to the Communist Party. This time it seems as if the citizens want to completely terminate the social contract with those in power. Under Xi Jinping's predecessor, economic growth was rapid and the political environment was relatively liberal. But Xi is only concerned with maintaining power at any price. If there is no change of course now, even greater unrest is imminent,” predicts LIANHE RIBAO from Taiwan.

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    Mexico City's LA RAZON believes the government needs to give in: "Citizens know very well that other countries have learned to live with the virus. They want food instead of PCR tests, and they don't want to be locked up any longer. The fight against corona in the world has changed – now China has to change too.”

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    The London TIMES sees China's leadership facing a dilemma: "Either they bow to the protests and relax the crushing zero-Covid policy - perhaps with the help of Western mRNA vaccines - or they close the hatches, beat up the demonstrators and hope that the anger subsides. The hardliners among the Xi critics would interpret the former as a sign of weakness. The second option would rob him of his legitimacy in the eyes of the populace and add to the fundamental instability of his empire.”

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    ASAHI SHIMBUN from Japan makes serious allegations against Xi: “He also wanted to demonstrate the alleged superiority of the Chinese system based on the low number of corona deaths so far. Admitting mistakes is not part of his world. That is why Xi is now cracking down on the protests. If the communist leadership is actually concerned with the well-being of the citizens, it must move away from its zero-Covid strategy. In addition, it should stop using corona measures for its political propaganda,” demands ASAHI SHIMBUN from Tokyo.

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    EL PAIS from Madrid has little hope for the demonstrators: “The experiences with the repression of the Chinese regime and in particular the memory of the Tiananmen Square massacre 33 years ago make us fear the worst. It is hard to imagine that Xi would admit failure and thus give up the autocratic system's claim to supremacy.”

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    The NEUE ZÜRCHER ZEITUNG from Switzerland also takes a dim view of the demonstrators: “The outcry from the people will not shake the regime. Xi is continuously expanding the security apparatus. He will keep using it until the rebellious voices fall silent. The Communist Party has never shied away from using force to quell unrest.”

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