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    Allegedly there are 42 airports in Afghanistan, 22 of them with 2,000m + long runways:

    List of airports in Afghanistan - Wikipedia

    Here is a list of civil aircraft landing requirements, I suspect takeoff is shorter. As regards military planes ....

    List of Aircraft Runway Requirements - Live - Infinite Flight Community


    Who decided 18 months ago only to utilise 1?

    Who decided a week ado to run away from Begram?

    Allegedly:

    "The decision to leave Afghanistan was made by Trump and Pompeo. They had nearly a year to prepare.

    Biden gave them an extra three months. Military forces in country were kept at levels that the Army itself deemed adequate to ensure a smooth withdrawal of troops. He later added a few thousand.

    And it was the Pentagon, not Joe Biden, that took the bizarre snap decision to quit the Begram Airbase in the dead of night (without informing the Afghan general slated to inherit it) – thereby, denying us a secure airport conducive to an orderly processing and boarding of evacuees."

    Not the "Kings awaiting their Coronation".
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Who decided 18 months ago only to utilise 1?
    How many airports can handle large aircraft, both commercial and military?

    It seems like most have gravel runways, grass runways or asphalt runways. Are these capable of supporting both commercial and military aircraft?

    It seems that some have a runway length of under 700 metres in length.



    How many Americans live on the Chinese border?



    Please answer

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    Umm...

    UhDoh You do realize the US is only in control of one airport right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    the US is only in control of one airport
    By choice.

    Or are you suggesting the 1,000s of ameristani + NATO military in country and en masse in foreign lands, who left by choice, were unable to defend any of the other 41 airports?

    Who are now demanding access for longer, again!

    "The spokesman’s comments come as the G7 leaders are set to hold a meeting later Tuesday, chaired by UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, on unfolding events in Afghanistan and coordinating foreign policy. It is expected that London will ask US President Joe Biden to keep troops in Afghanistan past the end of the month to aid in the evacuation process.

    Wallace also warned that the UK will not be able to get everyone out on time, while Spain expressed regret at being unable to rescue all of the Afghans who have aided its troops due to the “dramatic” situation on the ground if the US does not push for a prolonged date.

    Countries have evacuated almost 60,000 people over the last ten days, with the effort escalating as the Taliban seized the capital Kabul on August 15."

    Taliban has NOT AGREED extension to evacuation deadline, wants ALL foreign departures finished by August 31 – spokesman — RT World News

    Because of design or piss poor planning/execution?
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    Originally Posted by spliff
    Personally, I'm a huge supporter of The Don. I prefer transparency and I don't like corruption and juvenile game playing..
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well there's a fucking paradox if ever I've seen one!
    This is not in accordance of democracy understanding of our esteemed members (among many others)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    By choice.
    How many airports can handle large aircraft, both commercial and military?

    It seems like most have gravel runways, grass runways or asphalt runways. Are these capable of supporting both commercial and military aircraft?

    It seems that some have a runway length of under 700 metres in length.



    How many Americans live on the Chinese border?

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    There are not 41 fucking airports in Afghanistan that is rubbish and much less that could take a 747 landing. I would say there are two that can. The one being used at the capital and the other that was abandoned at Bagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    There are not 41 fucking airports in Afghanistan
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I would say there are two that can.
    You are wrong, twice. A 100% failure.



    If you had reviewed:

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    there are 42 airports in Afghanistan, 22 of them with 2,000m + long runways:

    List of airports in Afghanistan - Wikipedia

    Here is a list of civil aircraft landing requirements, I suspect takeoff is shorter. As regards military planes ....

    List of Aircraft Runway Requirements - Live - Infinite Flight Community
    List of airports in Afghanistan - Wikipedia

    (in metres)
    :

    City served Province ICAO IATA Airport name Runway
    Elev. (m)
    International airports
    Kabul Kabul OAKB KBL Hamid Karzai International Airport (Khwaja Rawash Airport) 11/29: 3511 × 45 m, concrete
    1791
    Kandahar Kandahar OAKN KDH Ahmad Shah Baba International Airport 05/23: 3200 × 55 m, asphalt
    1017
    Mazar-i-Sharif Balkh OAMS MZR Mawlānā Jalāl ad-Din Muhammad Balkhī International Airport 06/24: 2998 × 45 m, asphalt
    392
    Herat Herat OAHR HEA Khwaja Abdullah Ansari International Airport 01/19: 3014 × 45 m, asphalt
    1003
    Major domestic airports
    Lashkargah Helmand OABT BST Bost Airport 01/19: 2302 × 30 m, asphalt
    774


    Aircraft / Runway Length Requirement / Suggested Airport Class

    (In feet)


    Airbus:

    A318 / 3,400ft - 4,300ft (MLW) / B, C, D
    A319 / 3,000ft - 5,000ft (MLW) / B, C, D
    A320 / 3,500ft - 6,500ft (MLW) / B, some C
    A321 / 3,600ft - 6,300ft (MLW) / B, some C
    A330-200F / 3,000ft - 7,000ft (MLW) / B, some C
    A330-300 / 3,000ft - 7,000ft (MLW) / B, some C
    A340-600 / 5,800ft - 8,700ft (MLW) / B (Heaviest Airbus)
    A380-800 / 5,300ft - 7,000ft (MLW) / B


    Boeing:

    BC-17 Globemaster III / 3,500ft (1,064m) / B, C, D (non-verified)
    B717-200 / 3,600ft - 5,000ft (MLW) / B, some C
    B737-700 / 3,500ft - 5,000ft (MLW) / B, C
    B737-800 / 3,800ft - 5,800ft (MLW) / B, some C
    B737-900 / 4,100ft - 5,900ft (MLW) / B, some C
    B757-200 / 3,900ft - 5,100ft (MLW) / B, C
    B767-300 / 3,700ft - 5,300ft (MLW) / B
    B777-200 / 3,700ft - 5,300ft (MLW) / B
    B777-200LR / 5,300ft - 5,300ft (MLW) / B
    B777-300ER / 4,700ft - 6,200ft (MLW) / B
    B787-8 / 4,400ft - 5,000ft (MLW) / B
    B787-9 / 4,400ft - 6,200ft (MLW) / B
    B787-10 / 5,500ft - 7,000ft (MLW) / B (non-verified)
    B747-SOFIA / 3,500ft - 5,400ft (MLW) / B
    B747-VC-25 / 4,300ft - 7,300ft (MLW) / B
    B747-200 / 4,500ft - 7,300ft (MLW) / B
    B747-400 / 5,500ft - 7,300ft (MLW) / B
    B747-800 / 5,000ft - 7,400ft (MLW) / B
    B747-SCA / 6,000ft - 8,000ft (MLW) / B (Heaviest Boingboing)



    Bombardier:

    Dash 8-Q400 / 4,230ft (MLW) / B, C, D
    CRJ-200 / 4,850ft (MLW) / B, C, D


    Embraer:

    ERJ-170 / 3,300ft - 4,300ft (MLW) / B, C, D
    ERJ-175 / 3,300ft - 4,300ft (MLW) / B, C, D
    ERJ-190 / 3,300ft - 4,300ft (MLW) / B, C, D
    ERJ-195 / 3,800ft - 5,000ft (MLW) / B, C, D


    But an ameristani knows what he knows.
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    Reflections on Events in Afghanistan -8

    August 25, 2021 by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR


    "This week will stand out as a pivotal moment in President Joe Biden’s presidency. It has been a humble moment yet bold and decisive, far-sighted but tactical, and focused on America’s self-interests. It underscores that the US’ capacity to force its will on other countries (or even non-state actors) has dramatically diminished. To Biden’s detractors and critics, this might seem a moment of weakness — that the CIA Director William Burns had to travel to Kabul to seek a concession from the Taliban leadership to extend the August 31 deadline for the evacuations at Kabul Airport, which the Taliban political chief Mullah Ghani Baradar plainly refused.

    Nonetheless, Biden belongs to the pantheon of world statesmen who would has shown the audacity to take difficult decisions and hold the line. He is utterly convinced that the war in Afghanistan would damage America’s priorities of national regeneration.

    Indeed, a confrontation with the Taliban in Kabul in this fading light of a twilight zone would have been sheer madness. The consummate politician in Biden also would have calculated the desirability of quickly ending the high drama of Afghan evacuation from the news cycles back home. Besides, the evacuation itself was fast turning into a highly dangerous gambit — with the Islamic State lurking around the airport.
    Thus, on August 31, Taliban will occupy Kabul International Airport. Meanwhile, Taliban shall not allow anymore the brain drain of highly skilled professionals — doctors, engineers, etc. Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid called on the West not to encourage the educated elite to flee.

    Departure of western troops on August 31 will be followed by formation of a new govt by Taliban, an inclusive govt with the widest possible representation. The short-lived excitement over a Panjshir revolt has petered out. Undoubtedly, Taliban is in the driving seat.

    One of the items in the 5-point plan UK PM Boris Johnson slated as agenda while convening a special G7 Leaders’ Meeting yesterday regarding Afghanistan was “developing a clear plan for dealing with the new Afghan regime in a unified and concerted way.”
    Johnson claimed after the meeting that the G7 “has very considerable leverage – economic, diplomatic and political.” The G7 seems to be opting for a policy of incentivising the Taliban with carrots and sticks — humanitarian aid, international recognition, etc. — with a view to retaining a measure of influence in Kabul.

    The G7 statement after the meeting affirmed “a renewed humanitarian effort by the international community.” It says:


    “To this end we support the UN in coordinating the immediate international humanitarian response in the region, including unfettered humanitarian access in Afghanistan, and will contribute collectively to that response. As part of that, we will cooperate together and with neighbouring and other countries in the region on supporting Afghan refugees and host communities as part of a coordinated long-term regional response. We call on all partners of Afghanistan to support this effort and wider regional stability through multilateral channels.” read more

    This is smart thinking. However, there are strong undercurrents, as the statement by European Council President Charles Michel following the G7 leaders’ meeting testifies. Significantly, the statement concludes by flagging the lessons “to draw from what happened in Afghanistan. These events show, that developing our strategic autonomy, while keeping our alliances as strong as ever, is of the utmost importance, for the future of Europe. In due time, I will propose a discussion on this question to my fellow leaders of the European Council.” read more

    To be sure, the Taliban will not be cowed down by the threat of western sanctions. Taliban is riding a nationalistic wave. They want to avoid the entrapment of the 1990s. They are in discussion with China (and Pakistan, of course.)

    Beijing is highly receptive. Therefore, what China expects becomes crucial. Yesterday, Pakistani NSA Moeed Yusuf had a call with his Chinese counterpart Zhao Kezhi, State Councilor and the Minister and Party Committee Secretary of the Ministry of Public Security (Chinese intelligence agency). Yusuf later tweeted,

    “Pleasure to spk to my Chinese counterpart, Excellency Zhao Kezhi, on ways to further strengthen our bilateral relationship. We discussed the situation in Afghanistan and agreed to maintain close coordination, including on countering spoilers. We are moving fwd with a joint vision.”


    There was a time when Yousuf would have had “close coordination” with Jake Sullivan, NSA in the White House, on a “joint vision” regarding Afghanistan, but no more.

    So, what does Beijing want? Hu Xijin, the influential editor-in-chief of Global Times has written: “First, they (Taliban) draw a clear line against the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) and other terrorist forces that pursue ‘Xinjiang independence,’ and they do not support any activities aimed at destabilising China’s Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

    “Second, they form an open, inclusive and broadly representative government, bringing a complete end to the civil strife for a permanent peace. They should also contribute to ease the regional situation and promote the well-being of the Afghan people, providing no more pretexts for possible future interventions by outside forces.

    “Third, they keep distance from the US and other forces that turn out to be hostile to China. They should refuse to act as a pawn for those forces to jeopardise China’s strategic interests. Instead, we hope they are committed to developing friendly and cooperative relations with China and other neighbouring countries and integrating into the common cause of regional peace and development.

    “Fourth, they promote the moderation of basic domestic social policies, boost the development of human rights, protect the rights of women and children, and turn Afghanistan into a moderate Islamic country.” read more

    Beijing is almost certain to provide a firewall for the Taliban government against Western pressures. Put differently, the US influence in Afghanistan has touched ground zero.

    Yusuf’s reference to “spoilers” and Hu’s advice that Taliban government should “keep distance from the US and other forces that turn out to be hostile to China” should be carefully noted. The Chinese MFA statements are also lately warning against “using terrorism to seek geopolitical gains by any force” and calling on “regional countries to work together to eradicate all terrorist groups.” (Emphasis added.)

    Pakistan has handed over to the Taliban leadership a list of wanted terrorists. Islamabad’s move to publicise the highly sensitive conversation with China’s intelligence tzar carries a loud message — that the two countries’ national security interests overlap, and a joint effort is in the cards to roll back inimical forces. "

    https://www.indianpunchline.com/refl...afghanistan-8/

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    An opinion piece from a blogspot, since when was that considered to be News?
    When it doesn't appear on RFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    By 10.000 soldoers and millions of civilians. Obvious, innit
    I do not know how did you count the "soldoers" - only the US "soldoers" are counted? Nor their dead friends?

    And the civilians? Somewhere you wrote 500,000, as some also found (562,000[48]–2,000,000 killed[49])
    [50], but sicher ist sicher, nicht wahr?

    Pity that the Afghans were not left alone (with their Soviet friends). Some did not like it, unfortunately, we no longer can ask the old man Zbigniew and the cave man Osama.


    So they no longer could have driven the big cars Volga (same as Mr. Putin took GWB on a drive):




    Nor the military with the Russian Jeeps GAZ:



    And the population had stopped traveling in the Czech buses ŠKODA:


    But perhaps the good DR. Podlich was of the old man Khruschev's stooge and arranged only the nice pictures.
    That's why the MSM did not show them, and the Hollywood neither...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    When it doesn't appear on RFA.
    Which at least it makes a better attempt at reporting than the snivelling chinky sycophant from India off whose words you desperately hang....

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    There's a pandemic on.

    The US military will be "working from home".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You are wrong, twice.
    Nope. As usual, you are an annoying twat. None of those airports are operational at this time.

    You started off spouting about 41 airports, you quickly walked it back to five.



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    It even states on the links he sited that those airports were Taliban held and some they cannot even use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Have you actually read that agreement, RPETER65? I have, and I cannot see which terms in it that have been broken. Which terms do you think have been broken?

    Was Biden Handcuffed by Trump'''s Taliban Deal in Doha? | Political News | US News

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    whose words you desperately hang
    Glad you take the time to read it.

    Who is taking the new POTUS position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You started off spouting about 41 airports, you quickly walked it back to five.
    There are 42 airports listed, many of which take civil planes, of various sizes. I don't have a list of which planes are being utilised to take terrorists to the west. See my list of planes, check their requirements and report your results.

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    were Taliban held
    As the "coalition" is out at 11:59 on August 31st, 6 days, are you bovvered?

    The ameristani military have had 18 months to plan for this possibility, take your complaints to them.

    Nobody from the CIA was prepared to pay my fee, to advise them which airports to ask the new government permission to utilise, for the unexceptional ameristani, and it's vassals, to flee from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    There are 42 airports listed, many of which take civil planes, of various sizes. I don't have a list of which planes are being utilised to take terrorists to the west. See my list of planes, check their requirements and report your results.


    As the "coalition" is out at 11:59 on August 31st, 6 days, are you bovvered?

    The ameristani military have had 18 months to plan for this possibility, take your complaints to them.
    So, once again, you are waffling, having been proven to be full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Glad you take the time to read it.
    The URL?

    Doesn't take long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    So, once again, you are waffling, having been proven to be full of shit.
    The standard hoohoo trick to try and deflect.

    Which just fills up threads with more of his shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The standard hoohoo trick to try and deflect.

    Which just fills up threads with more of his shite.
    Either more of his waffle or propaganda from the likes of China Daily, which he considers to be "news."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Last edited by OhOh; Today at 09:09 PM.

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    If only China and Russia blah blah blah

    Stop Believing US Military Invasions Have Noble Intentions-playfair-gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    the snivelling chinky sycophant from India
    You don't read it, but suggest it's bull shit.

    That about sums you up.

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