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    What drug taking philanderer said this?

    “The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived and dishonest--but the myth--persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. Too often we hold fast to the cliches of our forebears. We subject all facts to a prefabricated set of interpretations. We enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."





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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    What drug taking philanderer said this?

    “The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived and dishonest--but the myth--persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. Too often we hold fast to the cliches of our forebears. We subject all facts to a prefabricated set of interpretations. We enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
    Ah yes, the myth that blondie is a beacon of truth and fairness, when in fact he is a grubby little rapist spreading lies on the putin payroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You sound somehow amazed that a rapist could be a criminal in other ways.

    Fuck him. Hasn't made me feel a hypocrite, he has made you look a gullible fucker though.
    Jeezus Harry can you get some facts before you start abusing people and bandying around rape accusations? You need to tone down the abuse and stop expressing your uninformed opinion as fact before you start calling someone gullible.
    This might help. FYI. 4 corners is considered one of the foremost investigative journalism programs in Australia.


    That link wont work. Just google sex lies and Julian assange and it should come up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Jeezus Harry can you get some facts before you start abusing people and bandying around rape accusations? You need to tone down the abuse and stop expressing your uninformed opinion as fact before you start calling someone gullible.
    This might help. FYI. 4 corners is considered one of the foremost investigative journalism programs in Australia.

    Sex, Lies and Julian Assange - Four Corners
    Or not as their website appears to be xxx.xxx.xx


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Or not as their website appears to be xxx.xxx.xx

    Your correct Harry, this is the URL to that story

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    Rather than me sit through some 42 minutes of youtube video, why don't you sum it up?

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    And now an Iceland source announced that a key witness in Assange case admits to lying.

    Perhaps Helge can help to look at it, it's not so far from him to Iceland. Is there something like Stundin? And allegedly they write it in English, a long story with all details of the young boy, I do not dare to link here.

    And they write about that on rt. So obviously we cannot believe it, can we?

    Better we will wait what harry knows about it...

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    Aussie PM’s refusal to back WikiLeaks’ Assange is ‘morally bankrupt’ says MP in Oz who also tells US & UK: ‘enough is enough’

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s future hangs in the balance as the US appeals a UK decision not to extradite the Aussie to face espionage charges. Meanwhile, bipartisan support in Oz piles the pressure on President Biden.
    The Aussies take their petitions seriously. When the government threatened a hike in the price of beer back at the turn of the 21st Century, 800,000 angry Australians put their names to paper – never mind e-petitions – in a show of people power that gave the politicians one choice: abandon their futile quest.

    The message was clear, don’t mess with their beer and equally strident is the almost pathological Australian defence of the underdog. Nothing gets an Aussie’s budgie smugglers in a twist more than a bully.

    And when the victim is a fellow Aussie, well, you’ve got a real ding-dong in the offing. Even when that compatriot is controversial WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, currently residing in the UK’s grim Belmarsh prison, having been considered too much of a flight risk to be granted bail while the British courts decide whether to send him to the US to face espionage charges.

    Nearly 12,000 miles away, Assange’s treatment has seen an unlikely cross-party alliance form to argue for the underdog. Among those leading the call for the US administration to drop its bid to extradite Assange is Aussie MP Julian Hill, a vocal member of a cross-party group of federal politicians who discussed exclusively with RT.com last week’s release of a video demanding that US President Joe Biden rethink his administration’s pursuit of their compatriot.

    https://twitter.com/Consortiumnews/s...eaks-julian%2F

    Aussie PM’s refusal to back WikiLeaks’ Assange is ‘morally bankrupt’ says MP in Oz who also tells US & UK: ‘enough is enough’ — RT Op-ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Aussie PM’s
    answer to his

    "Governor-General of Australia is the Queen’s representative.

    In practice, they are Australia’s Head of State and have a range of constitutional and ceremonial duties.

    The Governor-General is also the Commander-in-Chief of the Australian Defence Force."

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    The Governor-General of Australia is the Queen’s representative

    Key constitutional duties include:


    • Presiding over the Federal Executive Council
    • Facilitating the work of the Commonwealth Parliament and Government
    • Dissolving Parliament and issuing writs for a Federal election"


    The role of the Governor-General | Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia

    The Queen mentioned is :

    "Queen Elizabeth II


    Elizabeth II (Elizabeth Alexandra Mary; born 21 April 1926) is Queen of the United Kingdom and 15 other Commonwealth realms."

    Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Who answers to the City of London/her government ministers.
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    Before meeting US President
    - Assange supporters ask Merkel for help


    07/12/2021 10:52 am

    Supporters of Julian Assange appeal in a letter to Chancellor Merkel: At her meeting with Joe Biden, she should campaign for the release of the Wikileaks founder.

    In an open letter, around 120 politicians, artists and journalists, on the occasion of Chancellor Angela Merkel's (CDU )’s upcoming trip to the USA, call for her to work for Julian Assange’s freedom. In the letter of July 11th to Merkel, which is available to the German Press Agency, it says:

    We urge you to help build bridges in the Julian Assange case.
    Excerpt from the letter to Chancellor Merkel

    Letter initiated by Günter Wallraff

    The Chancellor wants to meet Biden this Thursday on her last visit to the USA before leaving office after the general election in Washington. According to the dpa, cross-party members of the CDU, SPD, FDP, the Left and the Greens are among the signatories of the letter to Merkel initiated by the investigative journalist and writer Günter Wallraff .

    Ex-ministers like Sigmar Gabriel (SPD), Gerhart Baum (FDP), Oskar Lafontaine (left), the writer Elfriede Jelinek and the editor of the women's magazine "Emma", Alice Schwarzer, have also signed the letter, according to the dpa.

    Assange-Unterstutzer bitten Merkel im Fall Assange um Hilfe - ZDFheute

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Rather than me sit through some 42 minutes of youtube video, why don't you sum it up?
    While you seem to be averse to watching something with documented facts before you accuse someone of being a rapist, The women concerned, after finding out he had porked them both without a condom, went to the police to try and force him to have an STD test. The public prosecutor turned a simple request into a rape case. The British court should hang its head in shame not to dismiss such spurious charges and the lack of support from the Australian government was no better. No wonder conspiracy theories abound, apart from the obvious obsequiouse panderings by these countries to the U.S govt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    While you seem to be averse to watching something with documented facts before you accuse someone of being a rapist, The women concerned, after finding out he had porked them both without a condom, went to the police to try and force him to have an STD test. The public prosecutor turned a simple request into a rape case. The British court should hang its head in shame not to dismiss such spurious charges and the lack of support from the Australian government was no better. No wonder conspiracy theories abound, apart from the obvious obsequiouse panderings by these countries to the U.S govt.
    See, saved myself 42 minutes of Youtube crap to hear the same tired old nonsense.

    Here are the actual charges, two of which were dropped because the coward was hiding and the statute of limitations ran out.

    The prosecutor believed in the others but dropped the case after 9 years because the evidence had weakened in that time and she felt it was likely he would be able to weasel out of it.

    Fuck him.



    1. Unlawful coercion – On 13-14 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm, Assange, by using violence, forced the injured party to endure his restricting her freedom of movement. The violence consisted in a firm hold of the injured party’s arms and a forceful spreading of her legs whilst lying on top of her and with his body weight preventing her from moving or shifting.
    2. Sexual molestation: On 13-14 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity. Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her without her knowledge.
    3. Sexual molestation: On 18 August 2010 or on any of the days before or after that date, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity i.e. lying next to her and pressing his naked, erect penis to her body.
    4. Rape – On 17 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [SW] in Enköping, Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep, was in a helpless state. It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party’s sexual integrity.

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    ^All of that for the 9 years only?

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    Jeezus Harry you are missing the point no charge should've been laid in the first place. I'mbsure you would relish the 42 minutes if it verified your version of events but it does the opposite. Watch it and learn or stay in your own bubble of alternate reality. It's up to you. Otherwise you will become just another ohoh just with a different point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Jeezus Harry you are missing the point no charge should've been laid in the first place. I'mbsure you would relish the 42 minutes if it verified your version of events but it does the opposite. Watch it and learn or stay in your own bubble of alternate reality. It's up to you. Otherwise you will become just another ohoh just with a different point of view.
    I'm perfectly capable of absorbing a wide variety of news sources pro and con any issue and deciding my position for myself.

    Unless there is some sparkling news in your youtube extravaganza that specifically contradicts the prosecutor, and which would undoubtedly have been reported in many reputable organs, I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Unless there is some sparkling news in your youtube extravaganza that specifically contradicts the prosecutor, and which would undoubtedly have been reported in many reputable organs, I rest my case.
    How wonderful to hear it from somebody who always let us know his "unbiased" supremacist views on some "organs", however, he is undoubtedly confident of "unbiased" justice and "reputable organs"...

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    And here comes comrade klondyke no doubt to defend the russian rapist stooge.

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    ^Come on harry, aren't you tired - and ashamed of yourself? (But you are champion of TD, aren 't you?)

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    CIA’s Assange abduction/murder plan raises questions for Australian government

    Revelations by a large number of former US officials, reported by Yahoo! News, that the CIA planned to abduct and render Julian Assange to the United States — and contemplated murdering him — raise more uncomfortable questions for the Australian government and its policy of trying to pretend Assange doesn’t exist.

    © Provided by CrikeyYahoo’s investigation relies on accounts from eight former officials about the plan to kidnap Assange from the Ecuadorean embassy in London, among dozens of other sources about the Trump administration’s determination to go after Assange and WikiLeaks. The Trump administration went where even the whistleblower-hating Obama administration refused to go and launched a prosecution for espionage and conspiracy, but until now it was widely thought its plans were limited to legal extradition.

    It is now clear the CIA — under Republican Mike Pompeo, who would go on to be Trump’s secretary of state — developed plans to abduct Assange and illegally render him to the US via a third country. There was discussion “at the highest levels” of the Trump administration of murdering him. There was also scenario planning about what violent measures US and UK agents might take to thwart a hypothetical Russian attempt to help Assange escape to Russia.


    The most obvious question for the Australian government is whether the CIA discussed with Australian intelligence officials its plans to abduct or murder an Australian citizen, or whether Trump administration figures — some of whom were alarmed by the CIA’s planning — alerted the Turnbull government at a political level.

    It would say much about how unimportant Australia was, and how little we have spoken up for Assange, if the entire process was conducted without anyone bothering to raise it with the Australian government.

    The extent of Australian knowledge of the plans for Assange is likely never to be clarified because Australia’s intelligence agencies are able to operate behind a bipartisan wall of secrecy far stronger than that which applies to US agencies, where independent congressional oversight, a better-protected media, a stronger whistleblower culture and better disclosure laws mean much more scrutiny for intelligence agencies.

    In Australia there’s virtually none, with limited parliamentary oversight, brutal gag laws for intelligence officials, vexatious prosecutions and police raids on journalists willing to try to pierce the secrecy.

    But there’s another angle that is also important. What sparked the CIA’s fury at WikiLeaks and set it to planning to kidnap or murder Assange was that WikiLeaks in 2017 revealed a trove of CIA software exploits, known as “Vault 7”, which had been stolen from the intelligence agency.

    That release was followed, within months, by news that the National Security Agency had had some of its own trove of software exploits stolen, which led to Microsoft publicly criticising intelligence agencies for failing to alert companies to exploitable software faults.

    The two cases illustrated how Western intelligence agencies were a key threat to our cybersecurity by intentionally leaving security weaknesses in commonly used systems so they could exploit them — leading to other states, or organised crime, to exploit them as well, in some cases using the very software tools bought or developed by intelligence agencies. A former US intelligence official at that time told Crikey that about 10% of known flaws discovered by Western intelligence agencies were not passed on to the product manufacturers to fix, but instead left in place to be exploited.

    It’s generally accepted that since that embarrassment, the likes of the NSA have been more diligent in informing major companies about exploitable flaws. However, the dual missions of intelligence agencies — to safeguard Western interests while accessing information from other countries, including allies — continues to ensure that not all exploitable flaws will be passed on to the people who can fix them.

    That includes our own cybersecurity agencies, such as the Australian Signals Directorate, which has the same dual mission that saw the NSA leaving glaring flaws in widely used software ripe for abuse.

    Despite the huffing and puffing on cybersecurity from the government, it is likely to remain the biggest threat to cybersecurity in the country.

    The post CIA’s Assange abduction/murder plan raises questions for Australian government appeared first on Crikey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    What drug taking philanderer said this?

    “The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived and dishonest--but the myth--persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. Too often we hold fast to the cliches of our forebears. We subject all facts to a prefabricated set of interpretations. We enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."

    That would be you.

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    Not Yahoo then?

    Or

    a large number of former US officials

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    Now it's in the Grauniad -



    CIA officials under Trump discussed assassinating Julian Assange – report



    Senior CIA officials during the Trump administration discussed abducting and even assassinating Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, according to a US report citing former officials.

    The discussions on kidnapping or killing Assange took place in 2017, Yahoo News reported, when the fugitive Australian activist was entering his fifth year sheltering in the Ecuadorian embassy. The then CIA director, Mike Pompeo, and his top officials were furious about Wikileaks’ publication of “Vault 7”, a set of CIA hacking tools, a breach which the agency deemed to be the biggest data loss in its history.

    Pompeo and the CIA leadership “were completely detached from reality because they were so embarrassed about Vault 7”, Yahoo cites a former Trump national security official as saying. “They were seeing blood.”


    Some senior officials inside the CIA and the Trump administration went as far as to request “sketches” or “options” for killing Assange. “There seemed to be no boundaries,” a former senior counterterrorist official was quoted as saying.

    The CIA declined to comment.

    The kidnapping or murder of a civilian accused of publishing leaked documents, with no connection to terrorism, would have triggered global outrage.

    Pompeo raised eyebrows in 2017 by referring to Wikileaks as a “non-state hostile intelligence service”. The Yahoo report said that it was a significant designation, as it implied a green light for a more aggressive approach to the pro-transparency group by CIA operatives, who could treat it as an enemy espionage organization.

    Barry Pollack, Assange’s US lawyer, did not respond to a request for comment, but told Yahoo News: “As an American citizen, I find it absolutely outrageous that our government would be contemplating kidnapping or assassinating somebody without any judicial process simply because he had published truthful information.”
    “My hope and expectation is that the UK courts will consider this information and it will further bolster its decision not to extradite to the US,” he added.

    Assange had been sheltering in the Ecuadorian embassy since 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden to face sexual assault allegations. He gave himself up in 2019 and is now in prison in London, from where he is fighting extradition to the US.

    US prosecutors have accused him under the Espionage Act of seeking to assist Chelsea Manning, hacking a military computer network to obtain classified documents attempting to help the former US Army analyst and conspiring to obtain and publish classified documents in violation of the Espionage Act.

    The use of the Espionage Act in the case was heavily criticized by human rights groups who pointed out that it opened the door for its use against investigative journalists in general, much of whose work revolves around obtaining and publishing information that governments would prefer to keep secret.

    CIA officials under Trump discussed assassinating Julian Assange – report (msn.com)



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    Jeezus Harry we can all get a little opinionated on here, but your penchant for posting your opinion rather than ignoring and or ridiculing objective facts that disagree with your view of the world is sadly plumbing the depths of Klondyke and OhOh. You are rapidly approaching their level of credibility, where their posts are primarily read as a source of amusement rather than any serious commentary. At least OHdyke can be myopic without sounding like angry old men.

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    Julian has become a tool and his fate no longer in his hands.

    Ironically his difficulties do not relate entirely to Wikileaks nor whistle blowing nor USA,NSA, CIA Guardian Belmarsh but like so many from his inability to keep his dick in his pants when away from home.

    Had the Swedsh warrant not been issued for alleged rape , now dropped hed be on the lam and posting as Smug, Heinz57 or IshatonEcaudor. He shoulda have kept cock home in Stockholm.

    He could by now have eloped to those places beyond the legal reach of Langley, few would wish to retire to N Korea , but Iran s fine if not NATO and cashed up.Kish Island with a few Ukranian masseuses just of Shabby Dhabi, same Yunnan China.

    Plan B like SNOWden Putin's chilly Mafa run Russia but I always find that both an exciting and dangerous place rather like here or USA where random violence lurks, of course to all you keyboard wariors I suggest Mrs Miggins hoe for bedwetters in Budleigh Salterton a safe bet or for those geezas who are nocturnaly still Spunky her flanchised Pie shop in Pattaya (bring your own bucket)
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