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    I can't see your pics

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    (something happened with pictures, trying again)

    The Old City Ring (Staroměstské náměstí) with statue of Jan Hus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Poor guy. (please no names here)
    Have you heard the news.....?

    Ratko Mladic: Court confirms life imprisonment against "Butcher of Srebrenica"

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    nobody can.......


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    And here the Ptrague Horologe, over 600 years old, where every hour a crowd of spectators awaiting the 12 Apostles walking
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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    nobody can.......
    Thank God !!!!

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    Herman the Sudeter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    So, why they did not help to decorate Berlin much better?
    Maybe you are forgetting that in old Prague, almost 50% of the population was German.
    I'am sure you knew that

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    Is that where the Germans learnt how to brew hops & barley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    What did your great grandpa done to Russians that he was so afraid of them? And he wasn't afraid of Germans that they would get him? Or was he a German, that's why he knew what he did to them?

    Anyway, that's a good example of the brainwashing: "Russians coming, Russians coming..."

    Ahhh, is it our fault that NOBODY like the Ruskys???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Is that where the Germans learnt how to brew hops & barley?

    I think from the Celts and Romans.

    Anyway, Skoda is a good car now if you know what I mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And here the Ptrague Horologe, over 600 years old, where every hour a crowd of spectators awaiting the 12 Apostles walking
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    Lovely pictures from a beautiful city where people like you aren't welcome.

    TRAITOR.

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    The lovely diversion is . . . lovely . . . but this is a thread about the brutal Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia and the ensuing murder and imprisonment of countless Czechs.

    (It says in the title what this thread is about- hence the friggin' title)


    Some here will say it's water under the bridge, but it certainly isn't for the Czech people:



    Czechs Mark Half-Century Since Soviet Invasion

    August 21, 2018 09:35 AM

    PRAGUE - Fifty years ago Soviet tanks rolled into Prague to crush the Czechoslovak Communist government's democratic reforms, ushering in a bloody occupation whose lessons many Czechs fear have been forgotten.
    The anniversary, marked in Prague and the Slovak capital Bratislava by ceremonies, exhibitions and films about the 'Prague Spring' and its brutal suppression that began on Aug. 21, 1968, comes at a time of renewed influence for the long-marginalized Czech Communist Party in national politics.
    Prominent European Union politicians said the anniversary also underlined the need to defend freedom and democracy today on a continent facing a new wave of authoritarianism in eastern Europe, as well as a more assertive Russia.
    "August 21 (1968) was a punch to the face," said Vladimir Hanzel, recalling the raw violence of the day when 200,000 Warsaw Pact troops - mostly Soviet but also Polish, Hungarian and Bulgarian - descended on his country.
    Hanzel, then a 17-year-old student, said he made his way to the center of Prague against his mother's advice to see the foreign troops blast the National Museum with heavy machine gunfire, mistaking the ornate building for a government office.
    Amid general confusion, as the troops struggled with Czech street names, he described Prague citizens erecting barricades with trams and other vehicles, which prompted the soldiers to open fire, killing and wounding dozens.
    Moscow's Communist leadership had ordered the invasion to end the Czechoslovak Communist Party's reforms easing travel restrictions and censorship. This had allowed greater media freedom and exposed the regime to allegations of corruption.
    The surprise invasion led to the end of Czechoslovak Communist leader Alexander Dubcek's 'Socialism with a human face" policy and to two more decades of totalitarian rule until mass peaceful protests in 1989 finally ended Communist rule.



    FILE - A photo taken in August 1968 in Trutnov shoFILE - A photo taken in August 1968 in Trutnov shows a tank as Soviet-led Warsaw Pact troops and tanks invade Czechoslovakia to crush the so-called Prague Spring reform and re-establish a totalitarian regime.

    Communists are back
    Hanzel, who later served as personal secretary to Vaclav Havel, the country's first post-communist president, expressed concern that, for the first time since 1989, the Czech Communists are again wielding political influence.
    In July, the pro-Russian, anti-NATO Communists, who have maintained a place in parliament, helped Prime Minister Andrej Babis's minority government win a confidence vote.
    "It is one of today's big paradoxes that... the Communists are again pushing forward and people don't mind," said Hanzel.
    Babis told Reuters in an interview last month that today's Communists were a democratic party and no foreign partners had raised concerns.
    Babis, a billionaire businessman, is battling in court allegations that he himself was an informer for the Communist secret police. He was greeted by protesters whistling and shouting "Shame!" at a ceremony to mark Tuesday's anniversary.
    "I don't agree that freedom is under threat today," Babis said in a speech. "Freedom and democracy mean above all that I am able to accept that somebody has the right to different opinions and preferences to mine.”
    However, Petr Pithart, the first Czech prime minister after 1989 and then Senate speaker, said he expected protests against Babis over his cooperation with the Communists would continue.
    "It is massive, as if people felt threatened again," he told Reuters.



    The Czech Prime Minister Andrej Babis, front centeCzech Prime Minister Andrej Babis, front center, arrives to lay a wreath to honor the victims of the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968 at a ceremony in Prague, Czech Republic, Aug. 21, 2018.
    Concerns about democracy
    Tuesday's anniversary coincides with mounting concerns in Brussels and other western European capitals about the resilience of democracy in post-communist member states. The EU and rights groups have criticized judicial reforms in Poland and Romania and the curbing of media freedoms in Hungary.
    Alluding to such worries, veteran EU lawmaker Guy Verhofstadt tweeted: "50 years ago today, the Red Army crushed the hopes of Czechs & Slovaks who sought freedom & democracy. Europeans must now stand together & reject a new wave of authoritarian influence undermining our societies again.”
    Slovak President Andrej Kiska also tweeted: "Our most important duty is to protect freedom & ability to determine our own future without a fear that choices we make will be crushed by brute force.”
    Another legacy of the Soviet-led invasion is deep distrust of Russia among many in both the Czech Republic and Slovakia - which split peacefully in 1993 - even though some leading politicians advocate increased economic ties.
    Czech President Milos Zeman, who opposes EU sanctions on Moscow, drew criticism for declining to speak on Tuesday.
    The Czech intelligence service often highlights Russian espionage activity in politics and business.
    "[The Russians] probably would not come with tanks today but there are other forms. They think they are a great empire," said Dana Kyndrova, curator of an exhibition of photographs from August 21, 1968.

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    More pictures from the invasion







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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    The Russians] probably would not come with tanks today but there are other forms. They think they are a great empire,"
    And this is it, in a nutshell. The arrogance combined with the active meddling and discord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    And this is it, in a nutshell. The arrogance combined with the active meddling and discord.
    Of course, we could say exactly the same about the USA...and they are even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Of course, we could say exactly the same about the USA...and they are even worse.
    Whataboutism

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Whataboutism
    Yes
    How we make decisions, compare circumstances etc

    We need it

    You yell it out meaning 'derailing'.

    That's convienientisme

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    How about we don’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    How about we don’t.
    Never been shopping with your wife ?

    Then you'll experience 'whataboutisme' 101

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    And this is it, in a nutshell. The arrogance combined with the active meddling and discord.
    Absolutely. Arrogance with feelings of inadequacy of always being the 'sick man' of 'Europe', a laughing stock among empires

    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Of course, we could say exactly the same about the USA...and they are even worse.
    Yes, absolutely as well. And we do . . . and no-one will deny the atrocities, meddling, discord by the US. Mention China or Russia and you have the usual brainless apologist and diversionary drivel from the usual brainless apologists.










    This is NOT a travel thread - meant for mods and the usual band of cretins.

    It is a thread about the brutal Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia. It is a history thread. Is that difficult to understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post


    Yes, absolutely as well. And we do . . . and no-one will deny the atrocities, meddling, discord by the US. Mention China or Russia and you have the usual brainless apologist and diversionary drivel from the usual brainless apologists.
    Precisely.

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    It was the largest deployment of military force in Europe since the end of WWII

    Many foreign nations, including China, Yugoslavia, and Romania, condemned the invasion, but no major international action was taken.

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/soviets-invade-czechoslovakia

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    It was the largest deployment of military force in Europe since the end of WWII

    Many foreign nations, including China, Yugoslavia, and Romania, condemned the invasion, but no major international action was taken.

    And Czechoslovakia was an ally of the Soviet Union . . . An ally . . .







    Note again: This is a 'Soviet Invasion of Czechoslovakia' thread - not a travel thread with lovely pictures to get off topic of the bloody invasion.
    It's also not a thread on which Covid-19 vaccine the country of Slovakia received in 2021 - irrelevant and dense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    And Czechoslovakia was an ally of the Soviet Union . . . An ally . . .
    Truly shocking and disgusting behaviour. All because Czechoslovakia was becoming too liberal.

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