Thread: Republicans lunacy.

Originally Posted by lom

Guilt is not inheritable.

Considering what the father earned by the wars after 9/11 being the owner of the biggest war contractor (not that he was quite poor before), and being a great supporter of the daughter...

So, no need to speak about an "inheritable guilt", do we?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

So, no need to speak about an "inheritable guilt", do we?

Correct. Doing so would make you a disingenuous prat. Luckily you don't

Nutters gonna nut...

She's a fucking nutter alright.
And I imagine she not only represents but is representative OF her constituents. Crazy.
This is the basket of deplorables that Clinton spoke of.
Unfortunately she took them too lightly.

Originally Posted by Cujo

This is the basket of deplorables that Clinton spoke of.

She was spot on too.

She just didn't realize how big the basket was.

The video on this tweet shows a democrat with a voice that we need more of.

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1395182029340389378

Originally Posted by thailazer

The video on this tweet shows a democrat with a voice that we need more of.

Such a flamed voice was often heard at processes with state enemies during Stalinist era...

Sometimes even rightly but mostly as a tool to remove persons not comfortable to the current establishment...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Such a flamed voice was often heard at processes with state enemies during Stalinist era...

if you're not living in reality. Otherwise, absurd.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Sometimes even rightly but mostly as a tool to remove persons not comfortable to the current establishment...

B/c the current establishment of the Republican party is absurd and dangerous, which is something you ignore in your little bubble.

Who you are trying to convince with this childish nonsense?

I do not convince anybody. What's childish? Everybody has a chance to see for himself by his common sense. Whether Dem or Rep, if they see a danger for their hegemony, they use any means for a disposal...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

I do not convince anybody.

Bingo.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Such a flamed voice was often heard at processes with state enemies during Stalinist era...

Do you yearn for the days, Klongdick?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

What's childish?

Your continuous ant-US/West posts, irrespective of the topic - of which you have been made aware by fairly well everyone bar OhNO, sabang and Skidmark

Originally Posted by panama hat

Your continuous ant-US/West posts...

If you mean my posts referring to the "just" wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afgh., Iraq, Libya, Syria - (to name just few, there is not enough space on this page) - then yes, these are anti-US/Wets posts.

I cannot think otherwise. Can you?
Obviously, you can, you were so brought up, to praise everything Western and to hate everything Eastern, weren't you?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

If you mean

No, no, no. Read carefully - it's a very simple sentence which even you can understand despite your "terrible eenglisch learned <insert name here but don't say"

Originally Posted by panama hat

Your continuous ant-US/West posts, irrespective of the topic

Originally Posted by Norton
History will judge Liz favorably

Originally Posted by pickel

And that's how fucked up America is now. She's as nasty as her Dad. Even Dubya is now viewed favorably.

How the bright and witty NYT journo Maureen Dowd sees it:

Liz Cheney and the Big Lies
By Maureen Dowd
Opinion Columnist
May 8, 2021

WASHINGTON — I miss torturing Liz Cheney.

But it must be said that the petite blonde from Wyoming suddenly seems like a Valkyrie amid halflings.

She is willing to sacrifice her leadership post — and risk her political career — to continue calling out Donald Trump’s Big Lie. She has decided that, if the price of her job is being as unctuous to Trump as Kevin McCarthy is, it isn’t worth it, because McCarthy is totally disgracing himself.

It has been a dizzying fall for the scion of one of the most powerful political families in the land, a conservative chip off the old block who was once talked about as a comer, someone who could be the first woman president.

How naïve I was to think that Republicans would be eager to change the channel after Trump cost them the Senate and the White House and unleashed a mob on them.

I thought the Donald would evaporate in a poof of orange smoke, ending a supremely screwed-up period of history. But the loudest mouth is not shutting up. And Republicans continue to listen, clinging to the idea that the dinosaur is the future. “We can’t grow without him,” Lindsey Graham said.

Denied Twitter, Trump is focusing on his other favorite blood sport: hunting down dynasties. “Whether it’s the Cheneys, the Bushes or the lesser bloodlines — such as the Romneys or the Murkowskis — Trump has been relentless in his efforts to force them to bend the knee,” David Siders wrote in Politico.

Yet an unbowed Liz Cheney didn’t mince words when, in a Washington Post op-ed a few days ago, she implored the stooges in her caucus to “steer away from the dangerous and anti-democratic Trump cult of personality.”

That trademark Cheney bluntness made Liz the toast of MSNBC and CNN, where chatterers praised her as an avatar of the venerable “fact-based” Republican Party decimated by Trump.

But if Liz Cheney wants to be in the business of speaking truth to power, she’s going to have to dig a little deeper.

Let’s acknowledge who created the template for Trump’s Big Lie.

It was her father, Dick Cheney, whose Big Lie about the Iraq war led to the worst mistake in the history of American foreign policy. Liz, who was the captain of her high school cheerleading team and titled her college thesis “The Evolution of Presidential War Powers,” cheered on her dad as he spread fear, propaganda and warped intelligence.

From her patronage perch in the State Department during the Bush-Cheney years, she bolstered her father’s trumped-up case for an invasion of Iraq. Even after no W.M.D.s were found, she continued to believe the invasion was the right thing to do.

“She almost thrives in an atmosphere where the overall philosophy is discredited and she is a lonely voice,” a State Department official who worked with Liz told Joe Hagan for a 2010 New York magazine profile of the younger Cheney on her way up.

She was a staunch defender of the torture program. “Well, it wasn’t torture, Norah, so that’s not the right way to lay out the argument,” she instructed Norah O’Donnell in 2009, looking on the bright side of waterboarding.

She backed the futile, 20-year occupation of the feudal Afghanistan. (Even Bob Gates thinks we should have left in 2002.) Last month, when President Biden announced plans to pull out, Liz Cheney — who wrote a book with her father that accused Barack Obama of abandoning Iraq and making America weaker — slapped back: “We know that this kind of pullback is reckless. It’s dangerous.”

For many years, she had no trouble swimming in Fox News bile. Given the chance to denounce the Obama birther conspiracy, she demurred, interpreting it live on air as people being “uncomfortable with having for the first time ever, I think, a president who seems so reluctant to defend the nation overseas.”

Thanks to that kind of reasoning, we ended up with a president who fomented an attack on the nation at home.

In her Post piece, Cheney wrote that her party is at a “turning point” and that Republicans “must decide whether we are going to choose truth and fidelity to the Constitution.”

Sage prose from someone who was a lieutenant to her father when he assaulted checks and balances, shredding America’s Constitution even as he imposed one on Iraq.

Because of 9/11, Dick Cheney thought he could suspend the Constitution, attack nations preemptively and trample civil liberties in the name of the war on terror. (And for his own political survival.)

Keeping Americans afraid was a small price to pay for engorging executive power, which the former Nixon and Ford aide thought had been watered down too much after Watergate.

By his second term, W. had come around to his parents’ opinion that Cheney had overreached, and the vice president became increasingly isolated.

Liberals responded to Trump’s derangements by bathing the Bush-Cheney crowd in a flattering nostalgic light.

So, shockingly, the Republicans who eroded America’s moral authority — selling us the Iraq war, torture, a prolonged Afghanistan occupation and Sarah Palin — became the new guardians of America’s moral authority. Complete with bloated TV and book contracts.

Trump built a movement based on lies. The Cheneys showed him how it’s done.

Opinion | Liz Cheney and the Big Lies - The New York Times

So all this is about when she was in school.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Cheney primary challenger impregnated 14-year-old when he was 18

Wyoming state Sen. Anthony Bouchard (R), who’s challenging Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) for her House seat, acknowledged in an interview with Casper Star-Tribune that he impregnated a 14-year-old girl when he was 18.

Why not to say the full story?

In May 2021, Bouchard claimed he was pre-empting a media exposé by telling his supporters on a Facebook Live video that, when he was a teenager, he impregnated a girl who was "a little younger than me" in Florida "more than 40 years ago."[20] He later told the Casper Star-Tribune that he was 18 years old and the girl was 14 when she became pregnant.[20] Bouchard said they married when he was 19 and the girl was 15, and the girl eventually gave birth to their son. He said the couple divorced after three years of marriage; she died by suicide in 1990 at age 20.[21]

Anthony Bouchard - Wikipedia

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Why not to say the full story?

Why not read the full story that SLandreth linked to?

Originally Posted by lom

Why not read the full story that SLandreth linked to?

Probably too many big words.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Cheney primary challenger impregnated 14-year-old when he was 18

Wyoming state Sen. Anthony Bouchard (R), who’s challenging Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) for her House seat, acknowledged in an interview with Casper Star-Tribune that he impregnated a 14-year-old girl when he was 18.

He should change the party (to which one? are there many choices?) then he would not be so harsh considered (as he wasn't so harsh considered when his party owned the word...).

Unlike others who - at the moment - are with the only correct party and good family (please no names here), so we are not at all outraged...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Why not to say the full story?

Originally Posted by lom

Why not read the full story that SLandreth linked to?

Because he wouldn't be able to make his snide comments . . . this way he is 'edgy'

Originally Posted by panama hat

Because he wouldn't be able to make his snide comments . . . this way he is 'edgy'

Hard to be snide when you post mostly gibberish.