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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    It is the government that needs to ensure a fairer, more equitable and sustainable distribution of resources.
    Do you prefer the Communist or Socialist model of wealth re-distribution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Do you prefer the Communist or Socialist model of wealth re-distribution?
    I think he has decided to dodge the question.

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    Communist China is one of the most Capitalist countries in the World. I don't even know what Communism actually means these days- it certainly isn't the same as Marxism.
    So call it whatever you want, but it is the government that should dictate fair and equitable resource distribution- not the Oligarchs & Corporations. The Government should work for the People.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    So call it whatever you want, but it is the government that should dictate fair and equitable resource distribution- not the Oligarchs & Corporations. The Government should work for the People.
    Tell that to Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Communist China is one of the most Capitalist countries in the World. I don't even know what Communism actually means these days- it certainly isn't the same as Marxism.
    So call it whatever you want, but it is the government that should dictate fair and equitable resource distribution- not the Oligarchs & Corporations. The Government should work for the People.
    Did you post this in the wrong thread or something?

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    Do you prefer the Communist or Socialist model of wealth re-distribution?
    ^ Merely an answer to a question MK. SFA to do with Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I don't even know what Communism actually means these days
    This might help.

    Chinese Communist Party - Wikipedia

    And worlds apart.

    Communist Party of the Russian Federation - Wikipedia

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    ^ Thank you you Comrade Norton

    Live Long and Prosper

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Live Long and Prosper
    i'm not sure the last part is allowed, smacks of Capitalism.

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    Putin’s Pals Furious Younger Russians Don’t Want to Die in Ukraine

    As Russia’s invasion of Ukraine marches on, there is a dark undercurrent of waning public support—and it’s coming through even on tightly controlled state television. In the first days of the bloody war, the public was promised a quick victory due to the superiority of Russia’s military. Instead, the Kremlin’s offensive has been plagued by heavy losses and equipment deficiencies, to the point that state TV pundits publicly contemplate seeking aid and assistance from other pariah states—including Iran and North Korea.


    Russia has reportedly been involved in discussions with Iran to purchase military drones, due to a severe shortage of its own unmanned aerial vehicles. During Thursday’s broadcast of the state TV show 60 Minutes, military expert Igor Korotchenko suggested that North Koreans could help rebuild destroyed Ukrainian regions and join Russia’s military ranks. Conversations about legalizing the participation of foreign fighters alongside Russian forces have been a recurring topic in state media, and for good reason: everyday citizens are less than enthusiastic about the prospect of going to war or dying for Putin. That doesn’t sit well with top pro-Kremlin propagandists, such as state TV host Vladimir Solovyov—twice formally recognized by Russian President Vladimir Putin for his services in the benefit of the Fatherland.

    During Thursday’s broadcast of his show, The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, the host complained: “It irritates me that our society doesn’t understand that a watershed moment is currently taking place. We either stand up, build up and end up on another level, or simply cease to exist.” His guest, political scientist Alexander Kamkin, concurred and suggested that a “cultural special operation” be conducted in Russia.


    The Kremlin’s tight control over the information disseminated to the public has failed to curtail access to outside sources, with tensions rising to such a point that on Monday during Solovyov’s show, convicted Russian agent Maria Butina suggested jailing parents whose children use a VPN to access foreign media. The host was likewise disappointed with the younger generation’s lackluster involvement in Putin’s war, complaining: “People who are planning to join [the military] are mainly of the same age as me, some are a bit younger… That is the generation that was raised on Soviet movies, Soviet literature and values. But the very young people I talk to, they faint if they cut their finger—and they see that as their democratic values… The special military operation is our Rubicon. I get the feeling that many here still can’t grasp it.”


    Writer Zakhar Prilepin, who is wanted by Ukraine’s SBU security service on charges of “taking part in the activity of a terrorist organization” for his involvement in Russia’s war crimes in Ukraine, added: “We really need volunteers, we aren’t hiding that. We need to replenish dislodged personnel. Meanwhile, the topic of death is silenced. The topic of perishing is curtailed. In a society motivated by comfort, you can’t talk about death. Everyone is expected to go to war, win and come back alive. Better yet, not to go in the first place. Let me remind you that the Charter of the Imperial Army included in plain language: if you have three adversaries, go to war and advance, kill all three. If you have 10, then defend yourself. If your death has come, then die. It’s written very plainly: ‘Soldier, death is part of your job. It is part of your duty and your contract with the government.’ The same principles were adopted by [Joseph] Stalin, who had an Orthodox Christian education.”

    Prilepin recited the lyrics of an old Soviet song, entitled “In the woods at the frontline”: “If you have to lie in the ground, at least you have to do it only once.” He asserted: “The soldier was openly told: go and fight. If you have to die, you only have to do it once… This is a part of your duty as a citizen, as a soldier, as a warrior, as a Russian man. Today, we’re protecting everybody: the government, mothers, conscripts, everyone. We barely forced our governors to put up murals [of the fallen soldiers]… Everyone is afraid to upset society.”


    Prilepin openly worried that in the event of total mobilization, the younger generation would opt to escape to neighboring countries instead of joining the fight: “The government assumes that in Russia, there is always 1 million men ready to fight. As for the rest of the country, we try not to worry them… We’ve been discussing difficult topics, which might lead to World War III and the same mobilization we’re trying to avoid right now… It’s difficult to talk about total mobilization, because I suspect that an excessive flood of people will suddenly pour into Armenia and Georgia. Borders will have to be closed. I’m talking about our younger generation.”


    Solovyov suggested the rules protecting conscripts from taking part in combat should be changed: “You know what amazes me most of all? That the conscripts in our Army are not supposed to fight… So what are they supposed to do in the Army?” He complained that not many enough volunteers have joined the battle: “We have 150 million people. How many are fighting in Donbas?” The state TV host proposed a massive government-funded propaganda campaign, glorifying the participants of Russia’s so-called “special operation” in film and on television, with songs and poetry.


    Gone are the days when state TV propagandists were predicting that other countries would flock to Russia’s side to join the battle against Ukraine and the West. During Thursday’s broadcast of The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, political scientist Sergey Mikheyev summarized the current mood in Russia: “About these constant discussions as to what we can offer the world, the world can go screw itself… We don’t need to offer anything to anybody. We’re special, we need to build ourselves up.” Solovyov agreed: “We are the Noah’s Ark. First and foremost, we need to save ourselves. Ourselves!”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins...raine?ref=home

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    They failed to account for the fact that the younger generations in Russia are dialed into the world. The state propaganda that the TD stooges so readily swallow does not work on the Russian youth, as they see right through it. You merely have to look at YouTube, where there are many Russian streamers posting subtle content that they are against this war. Many have left the country already, and those that haven't are making plans to leave.

    As I have said before, Russia may be incrementally taking ground in Ukraine, but it is losing this war in every way possible.

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    Haha. Putin be handing your ass to you on a plate bro. Dontcha get real sick of losing over there? After all, it is your schools, highways, public transport, and hospitals that are being robbed from you as a result. The wasted money is just stolen from the People, and gifted to the already rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post

    As I have said before, Russia may be incrementally taking ground in Ukraine, but it is losing this war in every way possible.
    This arsewipe is making dumber statements with every post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Putin be handing your ass to you on a plate bro.
    Actually, he is not. You clearly have no idea what is going on there. The Russians have hardly made any significant advances anywhere in the country for weeks, meanwhile the Ukrainians continue to advance on Kherson.

    You are basically just a propaganda spambot these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    This arsewipe is making dumber statements with every post.
    Oh look, it is another clueless triggered Putin knob gobbler. You really are turning into a sad, pathetic stalker. Did you even bother to read misskits article, you utter buffoon?

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    Bsnub von Clausewitz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Bsnub von Clausewitz.
    The post I made was in response to misskits article. Maybe by reading it you will cease to continue embarrassing yourselves. There are more ways that a country can lose a war than just on the battlefield, clearly my post went over the head of you two intellectual lightweights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The Russians have hardly made any significant advances anywhere in the country for weeks, meanwhile the Ukrainians continue to advance on Kherson.
    They did a lot of consolidation in the Dombas region. My impression is that they are preparing a major offensive in the Odesa region, they are definitely preparing a major assault on that port city. I am thinking that if the residents of Odesa were given the choice of surrounding and saving the city's infrasture they would choose that option. I seem to recall a map showing the city is about 50/50 in terms of the language the locals speak.

    If Ukraine losses Odesa they are fucked. They will at that point become a land locked rump. Not only could this happen but it likely will happen.

    This is the time for president Joe to invite president Zelensky for a nice little trip and frank conversation in Washington. The current situation is unsustainable.

    I think he should definitely put speaker in charge of negotiation.

    Drink the cool aide.

    A true diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a manner that you will be asking for directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I am thinking that if the residents of Odesa were given the choice of surrounding and saving the city's infrasture they would choose that option.
    Russ.

    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Drink the cool aide.
    Which Aide is cool iyo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I am thinking that if the residents of Odesa were given the choice of surrounding and saving the city's infrasture they would choose that option
    Best you don't think then, because you are wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I seem to recall a map showing the city is about 50/50 in terms of the language the locals speak.
    Just because they speak Russian doesn't mean they support Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Just because they speak Russian doesn't mean they support Russia.
    Or that they support NaGastan and it's vassals.

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    Look like the utter depravity of the Kiev regime is forcing me back into this thread.

    Just two hours ago, the Ukrainian armed forces shelled the Zaporozhye NPP with large-caliber artillery.


    ❌ According to the information we receive in real time, repair crews cannot reach the scene of the fire as there is still a possibility of artillery shelling.


    The situation is extremely alarming, fraught with the risk of a man-made disaster at Europe's largest nuclear power plant.


    ‼️ If the accident happens, it will be akin to Chernobyl.


    ☝️ Thus, we appeal to international organizations the UN, the IAEA as well as to nations that have an influence on the Kiev regime to take action so that the shelling of nuclear power plants stops immediately.

    Source : MFA Russia Telegram: Contact @MFARussia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Look like the utter depravity of the Kiev regime is forcing me back into this thread.

    Just two hours ago, the Ukrainian armed forces shelled the Zaporozhye NPP with large-caliber artillery.
    Russian forces have placed heavy weapons in and aroundd that power plant and shelled Ukraine forces from there for days, knowing they would not shoot back. This is either one of their decrepit howitzers exploded or intentionally cause some incident.

    Edit: Russian forces have left the plant and are now shelling it.

    Russia wants to cut Zaporizhzhia NPP off from Ukraine’s energy system, black south out


    Russians mine Zaporizhzhia NPP power units, Ukrainian intelligence confirms
    Last edited by Takeovers; 07-08-2022 at 03:04 AM.
    "don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence"

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    Spot the difference-


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    Are you saying Ukraine should fire missiles into Russia? I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Are you saying Ukraine should fire missiles into Russia? I agree.
    I am frustrated this has not happened already. It beggars belief that they have not supplied Ukraine with the ATACMS (HIMARS long range missile) which has a range of 300 km and would be able to take out the Kerch bridge that connects Russia to Crimea.

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