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    Derek Chauvin Murder Trial

    The cop accused of killing George Floyd is on trial.

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    Surely to be a shitshow on all fronts.

    My wager is a light manslaughter charge and acquittal on most other serious charges.

    And more riots at some point.

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    If he gets anything more than a manslaughter charge , he will be a political prisoner. I don't think he should be changed with anything really.

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    it wasn't manslaughter, it was a murder, and as such he should be found guilty.

    floyd may have been an odious drug addled low rent criminal, but once handcuffed and on the ground he posed no threat to the policeman who coldly and calmly killed him.

    chauvin has a record of violent behaviour towards those in his custody and i hope he is found guilty and punished for his crime.

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    I hope it's a short trial and he's found guilty. I see a healthy sentence, perhaps 15 years in the slammer.

    This will no doubt top the news for a period to come. I won't be watching. Too sensationalist, not my cup of tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    it wasn't manslaughter, it was a murder, and as such he should be found guilty.

    floyd may have been an odious drug addled low rent criminal, but once handcuffed and on the ground he posed no threat to the policeman who coldly and calmly killed him.

    chauvin has a record of violent behaviour towards those in his custody and i hope he is found guilty and punished for his crime.
    Putting your knee on someone who's resisting arrest , is a common practice in police work

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I hope it's a short trial and he's found guilty. I see a healthy sentence, perhaps 15 years in the slammer.

    This will no doubt top the news for a period to come. I won't be watching. Too sensationalist, not my cup of tea.
    If he gets anything like that, there will be mass resignations of police across the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    If he gets anything like that, there will be mass resignations of police across the country
    Excellent. There needs to be a clean out of the psychopaths in law enforcement.

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    It's his usual bullshit, sadly.

    People like that don't resign - they need the job waay more than the job needs them.

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    I just don’t see “murder” happening. He didn’t mean to kill him, even though it looked really bad. “Murder” implies intent, and that’s just not there. Floyd had heart disease, a fatal amount of fentanyl in his system, covid, and was resisting like a lunatic. Cause of death was his heart.

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    Putting your knee on someone who's resisting arrest
    he wasn't resisting arrest, he had been cuffed, subdued and was on the ground, and obstructing a suspects windpipe for 10 minutes is not common practice.

    chauvin is a violent madman, he should never have been in the police force in the first place, and i doubt he will survive for long once he is locked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    and obstructing a suspects windpipe for 10 minutes
    It’s been clear for a while now that he didn’t die from asphyxiation or strangulation tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    I just don’t see “murder” happening. He didn’t mean to kill him, even though it looked really bad. “Murder” implies intent, and that’s just not there. Floyd had heart disease, a fatal amount of fentanyl in his system, covid, and was resisting like a lunatic. Cause of death was his heart.
    If someone dies as a result of your reckless actions, and you’ve shown a disregard for their life, that’s second-degree murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    it wasn't manslaughter, it was a murder, and as such he should be found guilty.

    floyd may have been an odious drug addled low rent criminal, but once handcuffed and on the ground he posed no threat to the policeman who coldly and calmly killed him.

    chauvin has a record of violent behaviour towards those in his custody and i hope he is found guilty and punished for his crime.
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    It’s been clear for a while now that he didn’t die from asphyxiation or strangulation tho.
    Nope, it has not beeen 'clear', but nice try parroting his defence team's arguements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    It’s been clear for a while now that he didn’t die from asphyxiation or strangulation tho.
    It’s also been clear for a while, that he wouldn’t have died if a reckless cop hadn’t kneeled on his neck for nearly 9 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    It’s also been clear for a while, that he wouldn’t have died if a reckless cop hadn’t kneeled on his neck for nearly 9 minutes.
    Homicide, death by the hands of another man
    also applies to the knee of another man
    Last edited by lom; 30-03-2021 at 08:55 AM.

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    Guilty of murder will be the verdict. The court of public opinion will not accept anything less

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    Was he resisting arrest like fighting the cops hand to hand and running ? No.

    Was he being shifty and uncooperative in that typical career petty criminal way ? Yes. If he wasn't playing that act, he would have been escorted into the car and that's that. It was a fluke that he died. No need to destroy this cops life over an unfortunate set of circumstances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Was he resisting arrest like fighting the cops hand to hand and running ? No.

    Was he being shifty and uncooperative in that typical career petty criminal way ? Yes. If he wasn't playing that act, he would have been escorted into the car and that's that.
    Either you’re trying to be provocative, or you’re just plain stupid. (i’m guessing it’s a mixture of both.)
    The cop had his knee on Floyd’s neck for over nine minutes, while he was in handcuffs. There’s was no “resisting arrest“.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Guilty of murder will be the verdict. The court of public opinion will not accept anything less
    Agreed. Justice is blind up until it becomes political, and then all bets are off. Fifteen years. (we are talking extreme here)

    Next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Either you’re trying to be provocative, or you’re just plain stupid. (i’m guessing it’s a mixture of both.)
    The cop had his knee on Floyd’s neck for over nine minutes, while he was in handcuffs. There’s was no “resisting arrest“.

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    Petty criminals are always running their mouth when they are getting arrested. The cuffs are too tight blah blah blah. In this case, the yapping actually turn out to be true. How was the cop supposed to know that when he hears crying wolves all day ?

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    Here is the typical petty criminal trolling act which provoke these things. A whole 3 minutes of petty back and forth bullshit. This cop lost his patience too.

    A little cooperation goes a long way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I hope it's a short trial and he's found guilty. I see a healthy sentence, perhaps 15 years in the slammer.

    This will no doubt top the news for a period to come. I won't be watching. Too sensationalist, not my cup of tea.
    I agree, I hope it is short. It isn't complicated. A man died and his killer must face justice.

    Like you I shan't be watching as everyone with nothing better to do creates a theatre in which to shout out their personal agendas.

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    The American court system often seem beyond understanding. In this case however, my personal belief is that if anything swings it in the eyes of the jury, it will be that fucking hand in his pocket.

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    He's just so dumb that he will post screeds of dumb shit in this thread and then double-down on the dumb.

    So unbelievably dumb that I don't even have to name him and everyone but him will know who I'm referring to.

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