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    Backspin. Just a simple yes/no for the 90 days no-posting bet. It is not a negotiation.

    *Bet will void if the killer cop tops himself before sentencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon View Post
    if the killer cop tops himself before sentencing.
    I doubt he will. Unless he will be helped - then the case is closed, all calm down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon View Post
    Backspin. Just a simple yes/no for the 90 days no-posting bet. It is not a negotiation.

    *Bet will void if the killer cop tops himself before sentencing.
    Nah 3 months is a bit much.

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    ^^ I doubt he will get a chance to top himself due to Epstein's suicide (who maybe had a bit of help?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Nah 3 months is a bit much.
    So there is the Welch ladies and gents.

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    Yet more proof, as if any were needed, that he's a massive attention whore who simply posts against the majority sentiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Yet more proof, as if any were needed, that he's a massive attention whore who simply posts against the majority sentiment.
    Ah, but that makes him "edgy" you see.

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    Derek Chauvin to be sentenced June 16

    The Hennepin County District Court said that Chauvin will be sentenced at 1:30 p.m., according to CNBC.

    He is facing up to 40 years in prison.

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    Feds plan to indict Chauvin, 3 other officers on civil rights charges

    Leading up to Derek Chauvin's murder trial, Justice Department officials had spent months gathering evidence to indict the ex-Minneapolis police officer on federal police brutality charges, but they feared the publicity frenzy could disrupt the state's case.

    So they came up with a contingency plan: If Chauvin were found not guilty on all counts or the case ended in a mistrial, they would arrest him at the courthouse, according to sources familiar with the planning discussions.

    Under the contingency arrest plan, the Minnesota U.S. Attorney's Office would have charged Chauvin by criminal complaint — a quicker alternative for a federal charge that doesn't require a grand jury — so they could arrest him immediately, and then asked a grand jury for an indictment, according to sources, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

    Prosecutors want to indict Chauvin in connection to two cases: for pinning Floyd down by his neck for more than 9 ½ minutes in May 2020, and for the violent arrest of a 14-year-old boy in 2017. In the latter case, Chauvin struck the teen on the head with his flashlight, then grabbed him by the throat and hit him again, according to court documents.

    The other three ex-officers would be charged only in connection with Floyd's death.

    The federal case will be prosecuted by Justice Department attorneys in Minnesota and Washington, D.C.
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    Can Chauvin get his convictions tossed on appeal?

    EXPLAINER: Can Chauvin get his convictions tossed on appeal?

    MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The unique circumstances surrounding Derek Chauvin’s trial in George Floyd’s death could offer the former Minneapolis police officer some shot at winning a retrial on appeal, though most legal experts agree it’s a long shot.

    Here’s a look at some of the issues Chauvin’s lawyers might cite in their expected appeal, and their chances of prevailing.

    WHAT ARE POSSIBLE ISSUES THE DEFENSE COULD RAISE ON APPEAL?

    The defense has said it was impossible for Chauvin to get a fair trial in Minneapolis because of pretrial publicity and community pressure on jurors to convict. That claim is sure to underpin any appeal.

    As they arrived at and left the courthouse each day for testimony, jurors passed clear signs that the city was preparing for renewed protests. The courthouse downtown was encircled by razor wire and guarded by armed troops. Most storefront windows were boarded up.

    A prime target of an appeal would be key rulings by trial Judge Peter Cahill, including that the trial should remain in Minneapolis rather than be moved and that jurors should be sequestered only for deliberations.


    COULD COMMENTS BY POLITICIANS LEAD TO A RETRIAL FOR CHAUVIN?


    Judge Cahill seemed to think that’s at least a possibility.


    He rebuked U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters on Monday for telling a crowd in a Minneapolis suburb days before deliberations started that, if Chauvin wasn’t convicted of murder, “we’ve got to get more confrontational.” Cahill called the California Democrat’s comments “disrespectful to the rule of law,” saying elected officials shouldn’t comment about ongoing trials. “Their failure to do so, I think, is abhorrent,” he said.


    Cahill indicated that Waters’ comments could be appealable.

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    Prosecutors seek tougher sentence for Derek Chauvin following guilty verdict

    Prosecutors cite five factors in support an aggravated sentence for Chauvin:

    Floyd "was a particularly vulnerable victim" when Chauvin pinned him against the pavement by holding a knee to his neck, since the use of force continued after he became unresponsive. Floyd was also intoxicated.

    Prosecutors argue that Floyd "was treated with particular cruelty" as he was held on the pavement after repeatedly saying he could not breathe and while bystanders called for Chauvin to stop, and that he was not offered CPR or medical assistance by officers.

    They also accuse Chauvin of abusing his position of authority as a uniformed officer and committing a crime, as part of a group of three or more people, in the presence of multiple children.

    What they're saying: Chauvin's attorneys responded in opposition to a higher sentence by noting that Floyd's size, and his ability to continuously struggle while being restrained during what they described as a lawful arrest, serves as evidence that he was not particularly vulnerable.

    The defense argued that bystanders were free to leave the scene anytime they wished and that officers called for an ambulance to get Floyd medical attention.

    His attorneys also stated that the other officers on the scene with Chauvin have not been convicted of a crime related to his own offenses. Former Minneapolis police officers Thomas Lane, Tou Thao and J. Alexander Kueng are charged with manslaughter as well as aiding and abetting second-degree murder.

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    Thanks, how likely is that to go through and succeedi?

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    ^This might persuade the judge to hand down a harsher sentence

    They also accuse Chauvin of abusing his position of authority as a uniformed officer and committing a crime, as part of a group of three or more people, in the presence of multiple children.

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    I am getting a good laugh that that idiot slick who went on and on about how Chauvin would not be convicted of murder basically flounced from this thread after the verdict.

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    Photo of Chauvin juror wearing "BLM" shirt raises questions about potential appeal

    A photo of one of the jurors who convicted former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has raised questions about his impartiality during the trial, and about whether the verdict could be overturned in an appeal.

    Why it matters: 31-year-old juror Brandon Mitchell said he answered "no" to questions in a juror questionnaire about whether he attended demonstrations or marches in Minneapolis after Floyd's death, and about protests against police brutality.

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    ^Came here to post that. Makes things interesting for sure

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    "Former Minneapolis police Officer Derek Chauvin filed a motion for a new trial Tuesday, The motion alleges the court abused its discretion by denying the requests for a change in venue and a new trial."
    Derek Chauvin files motion for new trial in George Floyd case, alleging jury misconduct

    What a surprise. Who could had predicted this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    The trial is tainted, because the city has already paid the family and is a de facto admission of guilt by the city .
    The trial should had been moved to a different venue,
    Expect any guilty verdict to be appealed on those grounds at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    "Former Minneapolis police Officer Derek Chauvin filed a motion for a new trial Tuesday, The motion alleges the court abused its discretion by denying the requests for a change in venue and a new trial."

    What a surprise. Who could had predicted this?
    It is all inevitable. Claim mistrial. Appeal conviction. Appeal sentence. It will drag on and on. For me it is straightforward: he did the crime, he does the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    It is all inevitable. Claim mistrial. Appeal conviction. Appeal sentence. It will drag on and on. For me it is straightforward: he did the crime, he does the time.
    Whoosh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    It is all inevitable. Claim mistrial. Appeal conviction. Appeal sentence. It will drag on and on. For me it is straightforward: he did the crime, he does the time.
    I make no value judgment on this particular case but on the process, because the process applies to all of us, and one day any one of us could find ourselves subjected to it.
    Even though I understand that the settlement between City and the family was a separate case, IMO it should had been delayed until after the trial. Since there was a historically high , well publicized settlement and a De facto addition of guilt by one party , and a reasonable request for change of venue was made, it should had been granted, but for political reasons was not, tainting the process. Then in a sensitive and well publicized case such as this a request for the jury to be sequester for a few days was rejected, Why?

    Then we have the issue of the Juror that lied about his involvement in BLM. Not making any equivalency but. supposed there was a black man on trial, and pictures of one of the juror wearing a KKK hood surfaced, how would you think the impartiality of that juror would had been judged?
    I will tell you , if I was on trial and these thing happened to me, I would not be very happy, or consider it very fair, would you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Then we have the issue of the Juror that lied about his involvement in BLM.
    He didn’t lie. He was questioned before the trial if he participated in the riots in Minneapolis. He was not there. The picture of him with the T-shirt, was at a March on Washington Marking the 57th anniversary of MLK’s “I have a dream” speech.



    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
    Not making any equivalency but. supposed there was a black man on trial, and pictures of one of the juror wearing a KKK hood surfaced, how would you think the impartiality of that juror would had been judged?
    I will tell you , if I was on trial and these thing happened to me, I would not be very happy, or consider it very fair, would you?
    “Not making an equivalency” ? Sounds like that’s exactly what you’re doing, and a lame one at that. You’re equating BLM with the KKK.
    Ridiculous analogy
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    He didn’t lie. He was questioned before the trial if he participated in the riots in Minneapolis. He was not there. The picture of him with the T-shirt, was at a March on Washington Marking the 57th anniversary of MLK’s “I have a dream” speech.
    I am sure the only question he was asked was not if he had participated in the riots. After all the purpose of the jury selection was to determine if had already formed an opinion on the Floyd case
    "Get your Knee of our neck BLM" sounds to me like one might have already formed an opinion on Floyd case, and not a statement on "I have a dream" , He might have ware the T shirt at a MLK rally, but it was in support of BLM and made a direct reference to the Floyd case.


    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    “Not making an equivalency” ? Sounds like that’s exactly what you’re doing, and a lame one at that. You’re equating BLM with the KKK.
    Ridiculous analogy
    No you just did,
    I made a comparison , You are aware that you can compare two unequal things to make a point, aren't you?

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    Again, your analogy is idiotic.
    And given your piss poor grammar, I’m hoping for your sake you’re not a native English speaker, because it’s obvious you don’t know what words like equivalency, and comparison, actually mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Again, your analogy is idiotic.
    And given your piss poor grammar, I’m hoping for your sake you’re not a native English speaker, because it’s obvious you don’t know what words like equivalency, and comparison, actually mean.
    I guess I have to raise my argument to your level and say , No your argument is idiotic, and you smell too. . LOL
    But I am glad the only objection you have against the points I made concerning the juror and the trial is my grammar.

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