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    I dont see Pence as some Trump sycophant just along for the ride. Maybe he realised how bad Trump was getting and stayed to try to moderate his leadership as best he could. Trump was so out of control trying to be in control so to speak, maybe things would've been much worse had Pence resigned and a more compliant behind the scenes VP would've made things worse. Just a thought and obviously speculation on my part. I just wonder from the more politically aware Americans here whether they think that is possible or not.
    In many western countries political parties jockey left or right of centre. As one moves more to the left. the other moves further to the right. America interestingly seems to have bucked this trend. The Democrats by western country standards would be considered a fairly centrist party in the main IMO.
    The republicans appear to have moved too (dangerously) far to the right, ignoring voters in the centre. This appears to me to be causing an inbalance only slightly counterbalanced by the fact that members appear to be more independant when representing the party line compared to many western countries such as Australia that tend to represent the party line rather more than their constituents.
    . Is that because the democrats have taken the middle ground? Or is there a large far right population in America that transends class? Some seem almost messianic in their defence of far right principles, with many seemingly totally ignorant of world politics. I am interested in what other Americans take on it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    I am interested in what other Americans take on it is.
    Have voted for 60+ years and my take is, aside from the rhetoric, there is little difference between Reps and Dems actions at the federal level. If I had to label it, both parties are consistently right of center.

    For me the most important elections are local and which party I vote for makes little difference unless it's a toss up.

    So there you have my take in summary but suppose some will insist on details re why.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Not sure if this will play worldwide but it is entertaining in how Trump is living in his alternate reality.

    Pressed on his election lies, former President Trump cuts NPR interview short : NPR One

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    ^The Lincoln Project did a good job

    The loser just rambles on and on and then hangs up.

    The loser does finally admit that Biden received 80 million votes (first time I have heard it say it) but still gets the number wrong.

    It’s 81 million plus votes.


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    Trump called into Sean Hannity‘s show the other night. This is the actual exchange between the two.



    Hannity: "I want America to do well. I really do, with all my heart. And I -- the only way that I see that he could change course is, as The Wall Street Journal pointed out today, rightly so -- there's no course correction with [President Joe Biden]. He seems locked into every one of these failed policies. So, you know, you know, you keep banging your head against the wall. Why would you expect a different result?"


    Trump: "So, we would have had the wall completed in three weeks. It was largely completed. We did almost 500 miles of wall in the southern border. It was really working. It really had an impact. And we were working along with Mexico, and Guatemala, Honduras. We were -- El Salvador -- all of these countries we were working."


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    How utterly sad . . .

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    Good news. 71% of Americans can see clearly.

    Only 29 percent of those polled said they want to see Trump run for president again in 2024, while 71 percent said they did not want to see him seek a second term.

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    The complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, claims that the former president has suffered at least $24 million in damages in addition to the loss of present and future business due to Clinton, the DNC and others.

    Trump alleges that Clinton, her 2016 campaign and various figures associated with it participated in a "far-reaching conspiracy" to incite a media frenzy and law enforcement investigation into his purported ties with the Russian government.

    His lawsuit argues that the alleged conspiracy constituted a criminal enterprise under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.

    The complaint names as defendants 28 individuals and organizations, including Clinton, her 2016 campaign chairman John Podesta, the campaign's general counsel Marc Elias, former FBI Director James Comey and others.



    The loser trump is trying its best to stay relevant.

    In other news.....




    The Trump administration fought the lawsuit, but after President Biden took office his administration reversed the previous position and agreed that the committee had the authority to obtain the records.

    In December, U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden, a Trump appointee, dismissed the former president's renewed legal effort to block the IRS from handing over the records, ruling that the law favored the committee's authority to request the tax returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Good news. 71% of Americans can see clearly.

    Only 29 percent of those polled said they want to see Trump run for president again in 2024, while 71 percent said they did not want to see him seek a second term.
    Yes, unfortunately when you reduce that to republitards, the trumpanzees will all be trying to "stop another steal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    The complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida
    Hopefully it will languish in the court system for as long as all the lawsuits filed against Trump, the be quashed and he'll be charged with frivolous litigation and made to pay al costs . . . then comes the libel suit by Hillary . . . It could all be so nice.

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    ^I know in Florida (maybe other states) you can offer the plaintiff a reasonable amount to settle the case before it goes to trial. Usually about 150.00 to 250.00 (filing fee).

    If the plaintiff doesn’t accept the offer and loses in court they’ll have to pay the attorney fees.

    It has happened before to Trump in Miami.

    He just wants to use the case as the next battle cry, “Lock her up” will become “Make her pay” and he needs the attention right now .

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    Donald Trump and his children agree to be deposed in fraudulent marketing lawsuit

    CNN-Former President Donald Trump and his two adult sons have agreed to sit for depositions in May and June as part of a class-action lawsuit alleging they collaborated with a fraudulent marketing company.
    The former President agreed to be deposed on June 16 while Eric Trump will sit for questioning on May 12 and Donald Trump Jr. on May 10, according to a letter filed with the court. The letter said a date for Ivanka Trump’s deposition had not been proposed.

    The lawsuit, which was filed in 2018, alleges that in exchange for “secret” payments, Trump and three of his adult children used his reality TV show “The Celebrity Apprentice” and other promotional events as vehicles to boost ACN Opportunity, a telecommunications marketing company linked to a nonprofit that used Trump’s brand to appeal to teens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    a nonprofit that used Trump’s brand to appeal to teens.
    Teen to whom Trump would appeal:

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    Kim Jong TRUMP? .
    What a fucking clown. I wonder if the U.S. poulation will ever look back and feel collective embarrassment at the thought of having elected such a fraud or is it all downhill from here.


    Donald Trump has claimed to have hit a hole-in-one at his golf course in Florida while playing with a former world No 1, Ernie Els.


    The former president released a lengthy statement about the shot, which was said to have happened on Saturday, late on Monday.


    Earlier, a federal judge said Trump likely committed felonies during his attempts to overturn his election defeat by Joe Biden. Also on Monday, the House January 6 committee recommended criminal contempt charges for two aides, Dan Scavino and Peter Navarro.


    If the hole-in-one statement that followed was meant to change the conversation, it was not Trump’s first such gambit.


    It was however marginally less dramatic than his move last week, when a prosecutor who resigned from an investigation of Trump’s business affairs said he believed the former president committed “numerous” felonies.


    Trump followed that with a 108-page lawsuit alleging a vast conspiracy to delegitimise his presidency, led by Hillary Clinton.


    In his Monday statement, Trump said: “Many people are asking, so I’ll give it to you now, it is 100% true. While playing with the legendary golfer, Ernie Els, winner of four majors and approximately 72 other tournaments throughout the world, Gene Sauers, winner of the Senior US Open, Ken Duke and Mike Goodes, both excellent tour players, I made a hole-in-one.”


    Trump said he scored his hole-in-one on the par-three 7th at Trump International, West Palm Beach. He said there was both a “slight wind” and a “rather strong wind”, as he hit a five iron. The ball, he said, “bounced twice and then went clank, into the hole.


    “These great tour players noticed it before I did because their eyes are slightly better, but on that one hole only, their swings weren’t.”


    A video accompanied the statement. It showed Trump picking a ball out of the hole, but not the shot he said put it there.


    Referring to Trump’s status as the 45th president, Els tweeted: “Great shot on Saturday 45! Fun to watch the ball roll in for a hole-in-one.”


    It has been widely reported that Trump cheats at golf. In 2019, the golf writer Rick Reilly published a book, Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump.


    As well as reporting routine rule violations, with sources including the PGA Tour pro Brad Faxon and the actor Samuel L Jackson, Reilly wrote about Trump’s habit of claiming dubious feats.


    “Donald’s Trump’s boast about winning 18 club championships,” Reilly wrote, “is a lie that’s so over-the-top Crazytown it loses all credibility among golfers the second it’s out of his mouth.”



    Reilly also wrote that Trump International in West Palm Beach, Florida, now the site of Trump’s claimed hole-in-one, “has a plaque on the wall that lists all the men who’ve won the men’s club championship. Trump appears three times: 1999, 2001, and 2009. But hold on. The course wasn’t even open in 1999.”


    Reilly also examined Trump’s claim to have a handicap of 2.8. The man generally considered the greatest golfer of all time, Jack Nicklaus, plays off 3.4. In Reilly’s words: “If Trump is a 2.8, Queen Elizabeth is a pole vaulter.”


    On Monday, Trump’s hole-in-one claim met with widespread incredulity – and plenty of comparisons to the famous tale of Kim Jong-il, a North Korean dictator who claimed to have hit 11 holes-in-one in his first ever round.


    Responding to Trump’s statement, the Washington Post reporter Philip Bump spoke for many.


    “After nearly seven years in the public eye,” Bump wrote, “Donald Trump has somehow managed to out-Donald-Trump himself.”

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    Trump denies calling Putin a 'genius'
    The affinity between Trump and Putin is apparently mutual. On Russian state television Tuesday, a host called for regime change in the U.S., before Biden's term officially ends, "to again help our partner Trump to become President."


    John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, believes that Putin views Trump as useful toward his goal of weakening the NATO alliance.


    "In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO," Bolton told the Washington Post in early March. "And I think Putin was waiting for that."


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    It blows my mind that there isn't an absolute uproar about this
    I suppose people have just become inured to this kind of thing from Trump. Can you imagine it happening a few decades ago? Unthinkable.
    White House rebukes Trump after he calls on Putin to smear Hunter Biden
    The former president spoke in a television interview that raised unsubstantiated questions about Hunter Biden’s dealings in Russia

    The White House sharply criticized Donald Trump on Wednesday over an interview in which the former president said that Vladimir Putin should release potentially damaging information about Hunter Biden.


    “What kind of American, let alone an ex-president, thinks that this is the right time to enter into a scheme with Vladimir Putin and brag about his connections to Vladimir Putin?” said Kate Bedingfield, a White House spokesperson, when asked by reporters. “There is only one, and it’s Donald Trump.”

    White House rebukes Trump after he calls on Putin to smear Hunter Biden | Donald Trump | The Guardian


    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Unless he has announced his intention to run for President, or given a long jail term for being a specious cunter, he is no longer newsworthy.

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    ...he hasn't announced nor has he been threated with jail...he will remain newsworthy as a spokesperson for the handicapped until the day he dies...and probably long afterwards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Unless he has announced his intention to run for President, or given a long jail term for being a specious cunter, he is no longer newsworthy.
    As long as there are audio recording devices, Trump will be newsworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    As long as there are audio recording devices, Trump will be newsworthy.
    News companies are for profit organisations organisations, their business model is to sell ad space and attract eyeballs to watch them. If a steaming pile of shit , played all day like a christmas yule log attracted eyeballs , then that's what they will be playing
    and the steaming pile of shit analogy is not very far from describing trump .
    So it is more true to say, as long a there are enough eyeball that find it enjoyable to watch a steaming pile of shit, trump will be newsworthy.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...he hasn't announced nor has he been threated with jail...he will remain newsworthy as a spokesperson for the handicapped until the day he dies...and probably long afterwards...
    Not sure about that. If numbskulls keep it going they are doing MSN’s job for them. Numbskulls!

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    Trump campaign ordered to pay $1.3M in legal fees to Omarosa

    Former President Trump’s presidential campaign was ordered Tuesday to pay $1.3 million in legal fees to former White House aide and “The Apprentice” star Omarosa Manigault Newman.

    The decision comes after Trump previously lost a court battle with Manigault Newman in which Trump accused the former aide of violating a nondisclosure agreement after she wrote a book about her experience in the White House.

    Arbitrator Andrew Brown said at the time the NDA was too vague to enforce, propelling Trump and Manigault Newman to go into another battle over legal fees for a case that spanned three years.

    Trump’s lawyers laid out several reasons the campaign should not have to cover legal fees, including saying Manigault Newman was acting in bad faith during and before the case.

    Brown denied the lawyers’ arguments and awarded the former aide more than $1.3 million.

    “In deciding to permit supplemental briefing, the Arbitrator took into consideration that Respondent did not bring this case. Respondent was defending herself in a claim which was extensively litigated for more than three years, against an opponent who undoubtedly commanded far greater resources than did Respondent,” Brown said.

    “This award is in full settlement of all remaining claims not already disposed of in this Arbitration,” he added.

    Lead attorney for Manigault Newman, John M. Phillips, said it is “the largest known attorney fee award against a Political Campaign or President we can find.”

    He added he hoped it would “send a message that weaponized litigation will not be tolerated and empower other lawyers to stand up and fight for the whistleblower and vocal critic against the oppressive machine.”

    Phillips noted part of the money Manigault Newman receives from Trump’s campaign will be donated to groups that work against the suppression of speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    He added he hoped it would “send a message that weaponized litigation will not be tolerated and empower other lawyers to stand up and fight for the whistleblower and vocal critic against the oppressive machine.”
    Amen to that.

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    Too bad this interview will be on Fox’s streaming service. I’d like to see the whole thing.



    ‘You Lost!’ Piers Morgan and Trump Trade Vicious Insults in Preview For Upcoming Interview

    Piers Morgan has a new show coming to streaming service Fox Nation, and the first episode appears to be everything a host would want it to be — at least judging by a new preview.


    “A former president in denial,” opens the 30-second clip, which previews a combative interview between Morgan and former President Donald Trump.

    Morgan then flatly tells his guest “you lost!”


    Trump, of course, has insisted the 2020 general election was stolen from him through widespread voter fraud, despite a complete lack of evidence supporting that claim.


    “Only a fool would think that,” Trump tells Morgan.


    “You think I’m a fool?” Morgan asked.


    “I do now, yes,” Trump shot back.

    The preview video comes complete with the sturm and drang of dramatic music and shows Trump telling his host “I’m a very honest man” and “much more honest than you.”


    “Let’s finish up the interview,” Trump said at the end of the preview, before getting out of his chair. “Turn the camera off. Very dishonest.”


    Trump and Morgan have a history working together: Morgan won the Celebrity Apprentice in 2008.


    Piers Morgan’s new show Uncensored debuts on TalkTV in the UK on April 25th and will stream on Fox Nation in the US.

    CLIP HERE Piers Morgan to Donald Trump 'You Lost' in Preview of Show

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