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    The biggest threat to America's way of life

    A pretty startling set of numbers.

    Results from a CBS poll:

    The biggest threat to America's way of life comes not from foreign threats but from inside the country, from “other people in America, and domestic enemies.”




    Foreign threats - 8%
    Natural disasters - 17%
    Economic forces - 20%
    Other people in America, and domestic enemies - 54%


    Americans see democracy under threat — CBS News poll - CBS News
    Nev has style

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    We have met the Enemy and it's us .

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    The Murdoch's, Merciers, Koch's et al, the billionaires financing the far right wing take over of the US.

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    What about the NFL and fast food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    What about the NFL and fast food?
    Give it a rest now, don't you have a wheel or two to keep you occupied repairing?

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    The destruction of the Unions.
    Union wages benefits and Security created the American middle class, and the American dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    The destruction of the Unions.
    Union wages benefits and Security created the American middle class, and the American dream.
    Unfortunately not a current threat. Haven't they already been screwed ? Good point though...Australia remains a great country because the unions were not quite as screwed over as in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Unfortunately not a current threat. Haven't they already been screwed ? Good point though...Australia remains a great country because the unions were not quite as screwed over as in the US.
    IMO there is always time to revive them, if we stop fighting against our own best interest.
    When I see these idiots cheering for a NYC real estate developer who came down a golden escalator, I am reminded of the cattle cheering for the butcher on their way to the slaughterhouse.
    Capital , even if it wanted to, cannot individually do the right thing, because if they did, and their competition did not, the competition will put them out of business.
    So it becomes a race to the bottom. To that add automation , and without collective bargaining labor is screwed, and so is the middle class.
    Collective bargaining levels the playing field, not only for labor, but also for Capital ,because it forches all to play by the same rules.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    We have met the Enemy and it's us .

    Yes, in a round about way.
    And certainly not recognized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Unfortunately unions have become synonymous with greed, industrial action, constant pay increases and closed-shop activities . . . and to be fair when I see public sector or white collar unions go on strike I want to spew.
    No greed in the corporate world then? I read somewhere that wealth inequality in America is greater now than it was in Roman times.

    The Great philosopher Forest Gump said "stupid is as stupid does" all we need to do is look at the results of what we did,
    Did replacing the Union greed with corporate greed create a more equitable society or ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    No greed in the corporate world then?
    Oh, to a far greater extent . . . but corporate is still seen as providing a source of income and it is definitely an 'employer's market', especially when you have tens of millions of undereducated people, like in the US, who have zero savings and rely on these corporations to pay them peanuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I read somewhere that wealth inequality in America is greater now than it was in Roman times.
    I don't know about that, but certainly the US ranks last in western countries

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Did replacing the Union greed with corporate greed create a more equitable society or ......
    . . . neither.

    The American dream livs on - everyone can be rich, everyone can become president . . . thats till rings from when I was at Elementary School . . . in Grosse Pointe. An easy place to spout such crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    The Great philosopher Forest Gump said "stupid is as stupid does" all we need to do is look at the results of what we did,
    Did replacing the Union greed with corporate greed create a more equitable society or ......
    I won't insult all Americans by calling many stupid, but it seems to many Australians that the level of education in the US has dropped dramatically in the last 50 years, so that many appear rather ignorant of the world outside America. And this ignorance is a major part of the problem, and corporate America has probably encouraged it all, so help produce malleable workers.

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    ...what exactly is the "American way of life" that is threatened? Tacos trucks? Soccer popularity? Scantily clad women? Mormons? Agro-industrial complexes? Pink slime burgers?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I won't insult all Americans by calling many stupid, but it seems to many Australians that the level of education in the US has dropped dramatically in the last 50 years, so that many appear rather ignorant of the world outside America. And this ignorance is a major part of the problem, and corporate America has probably encouraged it all, so help produce malleable workers.
    Not sure about all that bro. Lot of Aussies I met seem a lot like those typically found in our red states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    Not sure about all that bro. Lot of Aussies I met seem a lot like those typically found in our red states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    Not sure about all that bro. Lot of Aussies I met seem a lot like those typically found in our red states.
    (sigh) ..Yes, we have our rednecks. General education seems to be deteriorating in both countries.

    But yours more than mine

    Perhaps only seems that way because you have 10 times our population ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    But yours more than mine
    You know this how? Oz is loaded with bogans hell you are one yourself.

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    The biggest threat to Americas way of life is- free speech. It is under threat from several quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The biggest threat to Americas way of life is- free speech. It is under threat from several quarters.
    Can you elaborate on that? Exactly how is my free speech being impinged?

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    By propagandisation, cancel culture, groupthink, compliant media, and corporatisation in general. How far have you really progressed from McCarthy?

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    People of today need to realise the USA of tomorrow will be far worse with the Dumbocrats running the show. I say that in the complete understanding there are people rich beyond my wildest dreams who need to be seriously looked at and investigated for any maleficence against the public good...but that is unlikely to happen. I maybe a right wing conservative but I do believe no man should amass a huge fortune by dubious means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy John View Post
    People of today need to realise the USA of tomorrow will be far worse with the Dumbocrats running the show.
    Yeah because domestic terrorism, an out-of-control pandemic, a weakened position and a budget deficit blow-out under Trump has been so awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    By propagandisation, cancel culture, , compliant media, and corporatisation in general.
    propagandisation---- Yes for sure.

    cancel culture---- Not so much

    groupthink---- Meh

    compliant media---- Media in the US is all over the place and being controlled by...

    ...corporatisation and oligarchs.

    That said freedom of speech is not infringed at all. What you are talking about is dumbing down and brainwashing.

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    how strange that whilst thailand imprisons a woman for 80 years for her facebook posts, china imprisons hundreds of thousands in forced labour concentration camps because of their religion, iran publicly executes gays and horrific massacres occur on a regular basis thanks to the despotic regimes in africa, todays obsessed self loathing blinkered and dumb social justice warriors cocooned in their echo chambers can see no further than a temporary aberration of american politics called trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy John View Post
    People of today need to realise the USA of tomorrow will be far worse with the Dumbocrats running the show.
    Odd that Obama presided over the largest economic period of growth in American history. Even more hilarious is that your orange moron basically road his coattails.

    Exactly 11 years ago today, February 17, 2009, President Obama signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 or the Recovery Act into law. The $831 billion in spending kicked off the longest period of economic growth and job creation in American history.
    Obama’s 2009 Recovery Act Kicked Off Over 10 Years Of Economic Growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy John View Post
    I maybe a right wing conservative but I do believe no man should amass a huge fortune by dubious means.
    So you do acknowledge that the orange moron is a fraud.

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