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    It's late Sunday arvo in kiwiland. Lets hope he's been enjoying a dink.

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    This was said in 2017. And now the US is declaring open season on Taiwan.

    Li Kexin, speaking at the embassy of the People’s Republic of China in Washington last week told hundreds of people assembled at an embassy event, that calls by U.S. Navy vessels at ports in Taiwan would violate China’s “Anti-Secession Law” of 2005 and automatically spark a military response.

    The day that a U.S. Navy vessel arrives in Kaohsiung is the day that our People’s Liberation Army unites Taiwan with military force,” the Chinese-language Liberty Times quoted Li, the No. 2 at the Chinese embassy, as saying.

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    Sure the wiki sceams will start but here ya go. Note the bolded bit as it relates to the Op. I was in Taipei in 79. Folks there were not happy.

    "After the United States established diplomatic relations with the Beijing government, or People's Republic of China (PRC), under the Communist Party of China's rule as "China" in 1979, the Taiwan–United States relations became unofficial and informal. Until March 16, 2018, informal relations between the two states were governed by the U.S. Taiwan Relations Act (TRA), which allows the United States to have relations with the "people on Taiwan" and their government, whose name is not specified. U.S.–Taiwan relations were further informally grounded in the "Six Assurances" in response to the third communiqué on the establishment of US–PRC relations. Following the passage of the Taiwan Travel Act by the U.S. Congress on March 16, 2018, relations between the United States and Taiwan have since maneuvered to an official and high-level basis.[2] Both sides have since signed a consular agreement formalizing their existent consular relations on September 13, 2019.[3] The United States removed self-imposed restrictions on executive branch contacts with Taiwan on January 9, 2021.[4]


    The policy of deliberate ambiguity of US foreign policy to Taiwan is important to stabilize cross-strait relations and to assist Taiwan from an invasion by the PRC if possible, whereas a policy of strategic clarity on Taiwan would likely induce PRC opposition and challenges to US legitimacy in East Asia or beyond.[5][6][7] As stipulated by the TRA, the United States continues to be the main provider of arms to Taiwan, which is often a source of tension with the PRC.[8] Both states maintain representative offices functioning as de facto embassies. Taiwan is represented by the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the United States (TECRO), [9] and the United States by the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT).[10]"



    "The United States removed self-imposed restrictions on executive branch contacts with Taiwan on January 9, 2021"

    So what changed is US Pres and cabinet can meet with ROC Pres and his cabinet.

    Yes Snubs PRC will make it a big issue but, and I have said this before, China will threaten this and that but will do nothing unless they are ready to deal with a combined US, Japan and South Korean opposition. Let the PRC do what they do best. Use their economic power to buy poor corrupt nations.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    What is totally hilarious is that you have just explicitly shown you cannot read. See Nortons posts- #6 & 8.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    This primarily benefits US Defense companies. Allows them to deal directly with Taiwan buyer organization. Not really an earth shaking change as always has been easily for these companies to do so anyway. Just a minor irritation to Beijing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    BBC via Yahoo news. If you prefer, Fox has one as well.
    Ok . . . and this supports your assertion . . . how? It doesn't, so why not unclinch your lips from Skidmark's arse and think for yourself.

    and here's another gem that you and he can share:
    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Jesus Christ. Can you read ? WTF are you even saying ? That nothing happened ?
    Yes, I'm saying that "nothing happened", obviously.

    Good God, you are dense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    When's he doing it, January 21st?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ..Zero Hedge?...
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Written by one Tyler Durden. Backspin, cant you do better?
    Not on RFA yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...he doesn't respond well to rhetorical questions...
    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Usually their posts include an official link but this one didn't
    A simple search confirms backspin's/Zerohedge's posts of tubs announcement.

    Lifting Self-Imposed Restrictions on the U.S.-Taiwan Relationship

    Press Statement
    Michael R. Pompeo, Secretary of State
    January 9, 2021

    "Today I am announcing that I am lifting all of these self-imposed restrictions"

    Lifting Self-Imposed Restrictions on the U.S.-Taiwan Relationship - United States Department of State

    Has he "misspoken", also been deplatformed?

    Maybe it's a done deal or some may desire to "disappear" it.

    What do our TD ameristani, government procedural experts say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Let the PRC do what they do best. Use their economic power to buy poor corrupt nations.
    ameristan is using it's "economic power" on themselves?

    As opposed to ameristani SOPs.

    Annulling international agreements, failure to ratify UN agreements, turn countries into concentration camps, "disappear" people illegally to island torture camps, arm, train and feed terrorists, illegally invade and destroy countries, place illegal sanctions on countries companies and individuals, appointing unelected imposters as a foreign countries leader ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ameristan is using it's "economic power" on themselves?
    Looks like hoohoo is trying to blame "debt diplomacy" and "Belt and Owed" on the Americans.

    Nice try hoohoo.



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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Looks like hoohoo is trying to blame "debt diplomacy" and "Belt and Owed" on the Americans.
    You actually read the trash he posts? I just skim over OhDoh and Klondyke's posts. I can't be arsed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Is that the same time you swam the '750m wide' Taiwan Straits several times undetected to meet some woman . . . six times?
    No, that was from Malaysia to Singapore.

    And that actually happened. You just can't believe someone would have the balls to do it, can you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    And that actually happened. You just can't believe someone would have the balls to do it, can you ?
    I'm sure someone has done it. Many people even.

    I'm equally sure it wouldn't have been a gutless liar like you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    I'm sure someone has done it. Many people even.

    I'm equally sure it wouldn't have been a gutless liar like you.


    But what about his Florida booty call trip?

    Suppose you don't believe that either.

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    I suppose you call what you're doing "owning" me, or some such term...but what you are doing is merely being idiotic. Get a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Yes Snubs PRC will make it a big issue but, and I have said this before, China will threaten this and that but will do nothing unless they are ready to deal with a combined US, Japan and South Korean opposition.
    Why mention me? I only have one post in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I suppose you call what you're doing "owning" me, or some such term...but what you are doing is merely being idiotic. Get a life.
    Calling you out for lying about swimming the Taiwan Straits . . . and lying in general . . . yet here you are crying out


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    Oops sorry. I meant Hatter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Oops sorry. I meant Hatter.
    Seriously? Mistake me with snubby????


    I guess it could be worse



    But yes, I agree with you. You agree with me. We disagree with Skidmark who thinks THIS is the act which will bring nuclear annihilation to the planet

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Calling you out for lying about swimming the Taiwan Straits . . . and lying in general . . . yet here you are crying out

    Your mental age appears to be about 12....same as Ant and KW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post


    "The United States removed self-imposed restrictions on executive branch contacts with Taiwan on January 9, 2021"

    So what changed is US Pres and cabinet can meet with ROC Pres and his cabinet.

    Yes Snubs PRC will make it a big issue but, and I have said this before, China will threaten this and that but will do nothing unless they are ready to deal with a combined US, Japan and South Korean opposition. Let the PRC do what they do best. Use their economic power to buy poor corrupt nations.
    The US is explicitly stating that it no longer agrees with the one China policy. In sensitive geopolitical issues like this, the spirit of the law is more important than the letter of the law. Its all up to China now. They have a red line somewhere and the US is willing to cross it. Its only a matter of time.

    Just like we seen with Crimea and Ukraine. Nothing on paper would have prevented Russia from retaining its naval base in Crimea. Nothing.

    And for the claims that China will do nothing. The reality is, its the US who will do nothing if they push China to take Taiwan. In the same way that they pushed Russia to take Crimea.

    The US will just levy some sanctions to make it look like they did something. Just like they did with Russia. Except China is the US and EU's biggest trade partner. So the sanctions will be even lighter.

    Again, here's what the Chinese FM said about taking Taiwan by force:

    "It's entirely China's own internal affair if we deploy military equipment on our own soil."

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    US has just ended the decades long US recognition of the "One China" policy-awxk5mz_460s-jpg

    Seems legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    "debt diplomacy" and "Belt and Owed"
    Is there really a debt crisis in Africa?

    Updated 21:35, 10-Jan-2021

    Editor's note: Is there a debt crisis happening in Africa as many media outlets claim? Has the deluge of Chinese credit fueled the situation?

    Carlos Lopes, a renowned Bissau-Guinean economist who headed the UN's Economic Commission for Africa from 2012 to 2016, shared his views with CGTN. Below is an edited version of what he said.


    There's a debt difficulty in Africa. But it should not be portrayed as a crisis, as only five countries are faced with a debt crisis, but not the rest. There's certainly a stress in our economic environment provoked by a higher debt-to-GDP ratio, meaning more debt in relation to the size of the economy. That's the consequence of Africa having difficulty in accessing concessional funding, which was normally provided by international financial institutions.

    The funding attained a record level in relation to the past. But the size of the African economies has doubled since the beginning of this century, which means that it's not enough. Africans have to go and try to find capital to resource their economies, which everybody does. Everybody has a debt to GDP ratio that is increasing, not just because of COVID-19 but also because of the 2007-08 crisis.

    Therefore, it is normal for Africans to try to reach out to whatever partners are available to provide the capital. And China happens to be the one that is the most sensitive to respond to African demands. China is a very large creditor to Africa because China has been reaching out to Africa more than the others.

    We cannot expect development to happen without access to capital. And Africa has faced many difficulties that push it down in terms of its possibility for development when it comes to access to finance. If they want to have investments, they will have to persuade foreign direct investment from different origins, or they can have the support of international financial institutions with lower interest rates. China has positioned itself in the middle between these aggressive commercial rates and the concessional funding. And I think if we were to ask the African leaders what their view is about China's support of Africa's development, they would say China should do more, not less.

    If we did not have access to the possibilities offered by China, the alternative is worse, not better. So, we have to stop the China-bashing narrative because it's really not helpful to Africa. Other partners and other views exist about how Africa can access capital, and they are most welcome. But they have to be tangible and practical. In practical terms, what we have is China being available, not the others.

    Africa has been trapped in a colonial model of exporting commodities without transforming them, without value addition and being very dependent on its fiscal resources from those exports.

    How do you get out of this conundrum? You have to industrialize. The only way Africa will be able to industrialize is by leapfrogging, by making sure that it jumps a certain number of steps and positions itself to take advantage of the latest developments in terms of technology and access to energy.

    And China, because it is a partner of the continent, can help in that process of industrialization. We have not seen major industrialization efforts in Africa supported by China, except for a few countries like Ethiopia, where China has had a major role in transforming their economy and making sure that they are heading for the path of industrialization.

    But we need more of that, not less.

    Is there really a debt crisis in Africa? - CGTN


    The "belts and roads", highways, railways, communications hubs, e-commerce platforms .... are the necessary precursors being built following China's proven playbook.

    Look for millions of African lives to be raised out of poverty, a la the China Phenomenal unprecedented accomplishments, in the future.

    I look forward to celebrating their success with you 'arry.

    African countries could, I presume, follow the ameristani "successful" model.

    If only they had big bombs, control of SWIFT, biochemical stocka stationed around the world ......:

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    HooHoo posting chinky state propaganda isn't really going to help your cause.

    Of course they would lie, that's what the chinkies do.

    Trying posting meaningful data.


    China’s share of bilateral debt owed by the world’s poorest countries to members of the G20 has risen from 45 per cent in 2015 to 63 per cent last year, according to the World Bank. For many countries in sub-Saharan Africa, China’s share of bilateral debt is larger still.Chinese lenders have lent money to almost every country on the continent and eight have borrowed more than $5bn apiece this century. But Beijing’s involvement in a debt service suspension initiative from the G20 group of the world’s largest economies has been slow.“It’s frustrating,” said David Malpass, president of the World Bank, this month. “Some of the biggest creditors from China are still not participating and that creates a major drain on the poorest countries . . . if you look at the [Chinese] contracts, in many cases they have high interest rates and very little transparency.”
    Meanwhile, they are using this "debt diplomacy" to blackmail countries into handing over fishing rights, minerals, etc. etc.

    Chinky fucking parasites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The US is explicitly stating that it no longer agrees with the one China policy
    Umm . . no. You're wrong. You're lying. You're making shit up again.

    Please feel free, for the umpteenth time to back up your assertion, any of your brainfart assertions, with citations from the relevant area.

    In this case show us where there is a State Department communiqué that says the One-China policy is no longer. Cite the State Department blueprint to locate na official embassy in Taipei, like they did in Jerusalem.

    Go on, Skidmark

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    HooHoo posting chinky state propaganda isn't really going to help your cause.
    But your :

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    “Some of the biggest creditors from China are still not participating and that creates a major drain on the poorest countries . . . if you look at the [Chinese] contracts, in many cases they have high interest rates and very little transparency.”
    behind a paywall can help your allegation>

    Countries names, contracts and certified numbers all passed by Factcheckers Inc, Tel Aviv.

    Here a link to documents one bank requires to submitted.

    Guidelines & Forms

    Until then your post is dismissed to the

    US has just ended the decades long US recognition of the "One China" policy-elephant-graveyard-jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Until then your post is dismissed to the
    Graveyard of murdered Uighurs, Christians, Tibetans etc...

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