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    Legal Charges Against Trump

    How long after Jan 20th will they take to charge him, and what will he go down for first?

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    Aw jeez, can we just get rid of him first? I've already said, I think his biggest challenges will be in commercial courts.

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    The major thing is to get his financial records that will undoubtedly show he undervalued his assets for tax purposes and overvalued them to get loans.

    Both of which will hopefully put him behind bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    How long after Jan 20th will they take to charge him, and what will he go down for first?

    State charges ... Federal charges are complex if he attempts to self pardon (before he exits) and pardon his cronies, including his family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    if he attempts to self pardon
    My feeling is he will not, because a pardon implies that he admits guilt, which he will never do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    My feeling is he will not, because a pardon implies that he admits guilt, which he will never do!
    He'd save his own skin over everything else, I'd suggest.

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    ^ or ^^ difficult quandary that one.

    Self preservation vs ego ... which one is stronger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Self preservation vs ego ... which one is stronger?
    It would be like his mind trying to divide by zero!


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    Lets hope that at least a few charges can be found for Barr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Lets hope that at least a few charges can be found for Barr.
    G.W Bush and that filthy fucking heathen Dick Cheney got off scot free for the crimes they committed.

    Trump will walk straight into his own television series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    State charges ... Federal charges are complex if he attempts to self pardon (before he exits) and pardon his cronies, including his family.
    Just doing a quick research browse regarding the possible lawsuits/civil and criminal charges that might be pending when he turns civilian.
    Quite a few serious and legitimate legal actions that he/family/associations could be facing.
    Over and above all of these complexities, he has numerous [manipulated] loans coming due that he can't meet.

    Actually, his whole business/personal life has been one continuous legal activity and flim-flam shenanigans after the other.....
    He's been a phony business mogul [in name, not in practice] for decades. And catching up with him.

    As for the Presidential pardon side of it, it's my understanding that any respective state charges supersede or overturn any such pardon protection.
    Presidential pardons and executive directives of these types are covered for federal wrongdoings, less any state charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    G.W Bush and that filthy fucking heathen Dick Cheney got off scot free for the crimes they committed.
    But that was not Un-American, that's not so bad...

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    He raised about $1.5 billion for his campaign and still ran out of money in the last month or so before the election. Some people are wondering where all of that money went!

    A thorough audit of his campaign finance might find that a few hundred million dollars found their way into the pockets of various family members.

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    I don't think self pardon is possible. He can't pardon himself until he's been convicted of something to pardon himself for. He won't be charged/convicted until he leaves office at which time he loses the power to pardon, so it's a moot point really.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Social Media will help . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    G.W Bush and that filthy fucking heathen Dick Cheney got off scot free for the crimes they committed.

    Trump will walk straight into his own television series.
    I expect him to buy his own soapbox, shortlisted to America One or Newsmax.

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    Trump loses out big style in my book. Surely the American electorate will see him as a fraudulent person. He is certainly not a gentleman in this case. He has no integrity, and he is clearly a bad loser.
    It matters not, that he is or is not pardoned. His behavior as a a human being sets him apart from humanity.

    Reputation is like virginity, you can only lose it once. Losing his reputation as the former holder of the country’s highest office is much, much worse.

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    555! A lot of opinions of what may or may not happen! All this effort could be put to better use...like nailing down next weeks Powerball numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Trump loses out big style in my book. Surely the American electorate will see him as a fraudulent person. He is certainly not a gentleman in this case. He has no integrity, and he is clearly a bad loser.
    It matters not, that he is or is not pardoned. His behavior as a a human being sets him apart from humanity.

    Reputation is like virginity, you can only lose it once. Losing his reputation as the former holder of the country’s highest office is much, much worse.
    Sadly, more than 40% of the electorate voted for him. Unbelievable to me.

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    Biden lacks the verve of youth on this job. Harris should, deservedly run for president in 4 years time. She was supportive graceful and robust when she introduced Biden in his deserved victory speech.
    Much more to come from this exquisite political giant, especially now that the republicans are a headless chicken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    G.W Bush and that filthy fucking heathen Dick Cheney got off scot free for the crimes they committed.

    Trump will walk straight into his own television series.
    Absolutely right!!
    No president has ever gone to jail after his term.
    A show of prosecution will be made so that the legal system makes a show of preserving their independence, and try to preserve the myth that no one is above the law. It will purposely take as long as the statute of limitations allows to allow passions to subside and memories to fade. Then some vague determinations will be made, some fines will be paid. trump might even make money from the proceeds of contributions, as he is doing right now by leading these idiots to believe that he could retain the presidency by legal challenges and soliciting contributions towards this effort, but with the caveat in the small print that these funds can be also used to pay campaign debts.
    As I have said all along the danger to our Republic is not so much trump, as it is the idiots that are so easily manipulated. trump will one way or another go away, the idiots are not going anywhere, they will remain , useful tools for some other trump wanabee .
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy John View Post
    555! A lot of opinions of what may or may not happen! All this effort could be put to better use...like nailing down next weeks Powerball numbers.
    The butt hurt is real isn't it deeks. Too bad, you do not have the balls to post under your previous nick you spineless bastard. Typical trumpanzee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    his successor, gerald ford, granted him "a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes he might have committed against the United States while president"
    I just hope to fuck Biden doesn't fall for that "healing the country" shit.

    At least until he's been charged and convicted so everyone knows what a c u n t he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Biden lacks the verve of youth on this job. Harris should, deservedly run for president in 4 years time. She was supportive graceful and robust when she introduced Biden in his deserved victory speech.
    Much more to come from this exquisite political giant, especially now that the republicans are a headless chicken.
    I can't see he running in 2024 at 82 years of age... especially if he has to do a proper, touring campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I just hope to fuck Biden doesn't fall for that "healing the country" shit.

    At least until he's been charged and convicted so everyone knows what a c u n t he is.

    A pardon would not go down well, as so many want to see the truth revealed.

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