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    E. Jean Carroll v. Trump jury will be anonymous: Judge

    Judge rules jury in E. Jean Carroll case will be anonymous, citing Trump’s attacks on courts, judges, and jurors

    The jury determining whether Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll in the mid-1990s will be anonymous, a federal judge ruled on Thursday, citing the former president’s attacks on courts, judges and even jurors.

    “Mr. Trump’s quite recent reaction to what he perceived as an imminent threat of indictment by a grand jury sitting virtually next door to this Court was to encourage ‘protest’ and to urge people to ‘take our country back,'” Senior U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan noted. “That reaction reportedly has been perceived by some as incitement to violence. And it bears mention that Mr. Trump repeatedly has attacked courts, judges, various law enforcement officials and other public officials, and even individual jurors in other matters.”

    Without expressing a view on Trump’s culpability, Judge Kaplan noted that Trump’s rhetoric has been blamed for the Jan. 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    “The defendant is a former president of the United States,” the judge wrote, listing the reasons why this is a “unique case.”

    “He has been impeached twice although convicted on neither occasion,” Kaplan wrote. “He now is a candidate for election to a second term. He has inspired strong opinions, both highly favorable and highly unfavorable.”

    Kaplan raised the issue of an anonymous jury on his own, without either party requesting one. Neither Trump nor Carroll’s legal team objected to the plan, and the judge suggested that there was a reason for that.

    “If jurors’ identities were disclosed, there would be a strong likelihood of unwanted media attention to the jurors, influence attempts, and/or of harassment or worse of jurors by supporters of Mr. Trump,” the judge wrote. “Indeed, Mr. Trump himself has made critical statements on social media regarding the grand jury foreperson in Atlanta, Georgia, and the jury foreperson in the Roger Stone criminal case. And this properly may be viewed in the context of Mr. Trump’s many statements regarding individual judges, the judiciary in general, and other public officials, as well as what reports have characterized as ‘violent rhetoric’ by Mr. Trump including before his presidency.”

    The only objections to the plan for an anonymous jury came from media organizations: The Associated Press and the New York Daily News in particular.

    “To be sure, as the News and the AP argue, there is a presumptive right of access by the public to civil proceedings,” Kaplan wrote. “The Court assumes, without deciding, that the right of access usually extends to the identities of jurors. But the presumption of access, even assuming it applies to jurors’ names, is not an unqualified right to that information.”

    The extensively footnoted decision invokes the various times that Trump has been blamed for violence.

    “The Final Report issued by the Select Committee to investigate the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol concluded that ‘the central cause of January 6th was one man, former President Donald Trump, whom many others followed,'” Kaplan noted, adding that he “expresses neither agreement nor disagreement with that conclusion.”

    After the forewoman of the Fulton County special grand jury went on her media tour, Trump sent out a statement on the interviews of “extremely energetic young woman,” also footnoted in the opinion. In another citation, jurors in Roger Stone’s criminal trial expressed fear for their safety from Trump supporters. The judge also invoked the cases of Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Wandrea Moss, who faced a barrage of threats over conspiracy theories about their work in the 2020 election.

    At every turn, Kaplan noted that it doesn’t matter whether Trump incited violence in “either a legal or a factual sense.”

    “The point is whether jurors will perceive themselves to be at risk,” Kaplan wrote.

    Ultimately, Kaplan found that proposition “very strong.”

    “On the basis of the unprecedented circumstances in which this trial will take place, including the extensive pretrial publicity and a very strong risk that jurors will fear harassment, unwanted invasions of privacy, and retaliation by virtue of the matters referred to above, the Court finds that there is strong reason to believe that the jury needs the protections prescribed below,” Kaplan wrote, shielding jurors’ names, addresses and places of employment.
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    Pecker testified against the psychopath today, getting the most out of his immunity I'm guessing.

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    ^trump is almost out of time

    Biden will not assert executive privilege for court-ordered depositions of Wray, Trump

    The Department of Justice (DOJ) said on Friday that President Biden will not assert executive privilege over court-ordered depositions from former President Trump and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

    Trump has also not requested an assertion of privilege over the depositions, the DOJ said in Friday’s filing.

    Wray and the former president have been ordered to sit for depositions in lawsuits brought by two former FBI employees who claim they were unfairly targeted for their work investigating Trump’s ties to Russia during the 2016 election.

    Former FBI agent Peter Strzok was fired and former FBI attorney Lisa Page resigned from the bureau in 2018, after text messages emerged that showed the two making critical comments about the former president.

    The two have claimed they were targeted out of a political vendetta.

    U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ordered Trump and Wray to sit for the depositions last month, after rejecting the Justice Department’s attempts to quash the requests under the “apex doctrine.”

    The doctrine allows high-ranking government officials to be deposed when they have personal knowledge on the matter that cannot be obtained elsewhere.

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    ^ And Pence is going to have to go before the grand jury about Jan 6....that's fooking hysterical. Trump is so fooked he can't even wrap his head around how fooked he is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    ^ And Pence is going to have to go before the grand jury about Jan 6....that's fooking hysterical. Trump is so fooked he can't even wrap his head around how fooked he is...
    Well they've been trying to "fook" him since 2016 and they haven't managed it yet.

    What's going to make the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    And Pence is going to have to go before the grand jury about Jan 6....that's fooking hysterical. Trump is so fooked he can't even wrap his head around how fooked he is...
    I saw that on the news earlier. Trump’s problems are piling up

    Federal judge rules Pence must testify before grand jury about any illegal acts by Trump

    Three people briefed on the decision confirmed to CBS News that a federal judge in Washington ruled that former Vice President Mike Pence must testify before a grand jury about former President Donald Trump's effort to reverse the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

    Special counsel Jack Smith, who is overseeing the Justice Department's investigation into efforts to stop the transfer of presidential power after the 2020 election, issued a subpoena for Pence's testimony before the grand jury in February. But the former vice president vowed to resist the demand, arguing he is protected from questioning by prosecutors under the Constitution's "speech or debate" clause.

    The provision says that members of the legislative branch "shall not be questioned in any other place" for "any speech or debate" in either chamber. Pence's argument stemmed from his role as president of the Senate, the position held by the vice president.

    Trump also sought to block Pence's testimony, asserting executive privilege.

    The sources told CBS News that Chief Judge James Boasberg of the U.S. district court in Washington, who is overseeing the grand jury, rejected Trump's claims of executive privilege and found they did not apply to any potential testimony by Pence.

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    This is a breaking news story. Please check back for new details.

    edit: NY Times says there are felony charges.


    Trump indicted by Manhattan grand jury

    A grand jury in New York on Thursday indicted former President Trump on charges related to an illegal hush money payment in 2016 to adult film star Stormy Daniels who alleged they had an affair, according to multiple outlets.

    Why it matters: Trump, who is running for president in 2024 and facing multiple criminal probes, is the first president in U.S. history — sitting or former — to face criminal charges. The indictment over a payment during his first run for president is sure to ripple through his latest campaign.


    • The charges come more than four years after Michael Cohen, the lawyer who handled the payment for Trump, was convicted in 2018 and received a three-year prison sentence. He has been a witness against the former president.
    • The prospect of a Trump indictment was raised in early March after the district attorney's office invited Trump to testify before a grand jury.


    The big picture: Trump, who frequently casts himself as a victim of overzealous investigators, the media and others, has repeatedly blasted the probe by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg on Truth Social.


    • While Trump publicly predicted he would be arrested last week, upending news cycles and provoking reactions across his party, the grand jury investigating him did not conclude on that timeline.
    • Trump also called for protests, which prompted law enforcement to prepare for large-scale demonstrations that did not materialize.
    • "Protest, take our nation back!" he implored to supporters, echoing his calls that led to the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.


    Background: After his conviction, Cohen alleged that Trump had ordered him to pay Daniels $130,000 in hush money just before the 2016 election, and later reimbursed him for it through the Trump Organization as legal expenses.


    • Trump has denied the affair. His legal team has claimed he was "the victim of extortion" from Daniels and called the Manhattan district attorney's threat to indict him "simply insane."
    • Federal prosecutors did not pursue charges in the case, but Bragg's office chose to do so — a controversial decision that made Bragg the focus of Republican accusations that the prosecution was politically partisan.


    State of play: Reports of a possible indictment prompted some GOP-support for Trump. Several high-profile Republicans essentially rebuffed Trump's call for protests by urging calm among their supporters.


    • After House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) called for a congressional investigation into the prosecutors in the Trump case, three House GOP committee chairs said they'd seek testimony from Bragg.
    • Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) said the "illegal leaks" about Trump's potential arrest were "un-American" — although the frenzy over the case was set off by Trump declaring that he expected to be arrested.


    At least one Republican figure, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, has said Trump should drop out of the 2024 presidential race if he's indicted.


    • On top of the New York charges, Trump also faces a federal investigation over his efforts to interfere with the 2020 election results and his handling of classified materials.
    • And in Georgia, Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis' office is investigating whether Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results there violated state law.




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    If all are equal under the law, then this is an open and shut case.
    His co-conspirator was tried, found guilty , and served time in jail for the same charges.
    It might make his supporters unhappy, and it might make him a martyr with them, but unlike other countries whose cohesiveness is derived from a shared ethnicity, the USA derives it's cohesiveness from its institutions and the proposition that all who come are equal under the law. We all know that this proposition is not entirely true ,but it offers us the illusion of it, and allows us to live together.
    If trump is allowed to get away with it, it would explicitly raise that vail and would IMO be the final nail in the coffin of this great social experiment we call the USA .
    IMO the dangers of trump's martyrdom with some idiots is far lower than the existential danger it would present to this union.
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    Wanna take a guess how many stoopid Americans will still vote for him even if he's in prison?


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    No point in getting excited.

    What happens next?

    Trump will be arraigned, where he will enter a plea, and various dates for case proceedings will be set. His attorneys are all but guaranteed to fight the charges tooth-and-nail in the pre-trial stages, submitting motions in efforts to exclude evidence and testimony they believe will harm his defense, as is normal in criminal cases.
    This, in turn, will result in re-setting of deadlines and scheduling events, making a definitive trial date elusive until shortly before proceedings kick off. It’s possible that years elapse between Trump’s indictment and any possible trial.

    Why did a grand jury vote to indict Trump and what does it mean for him? | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    No point in getting excited.
    Two silly posts in a row. Sometimes googling skills have nothing to do with facts. You really don't have much knowledge of the US legal system.

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    Manhattan DA’s office says it’s reached out to coordinate Trump’s surrender

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    In other news

    Trump Grand Jury Digs Into Hush Money Paid to Second Woman

    Manhattan prosecutors investigating Donald Trump’s role in paying hush money to a porn star also have been examining a $150,000 payment to a former Playboy model who alleged that she had an affair with the former president, according to people familiar with the matter, raising the prospect that Mr. Trump could face charges connected to the silencing of both women.

    Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office has been presenting a grand jury with evidence of Mr. Trump’s involvement in a $130,000 payment to porn star Stormy Daniels since January. In those proceedings, the people said, Mr. Bragg’s prosecutors also have questioned grand-jury witnesses extensively about an earlier deal involving Karen McDougal, Playboy Magazine’s Playmate of the Year in 1998, who has said she began a 10-month relationship with Mr. Trump in 2006.

    The extent of prosecutors’ interest in Ms. McDougal hasn’t been previously reported. Prosecutors could use any McDougal evidence either to bring charges directly related to the McDougal payment or to establish an alleged pattern of conduct by Mr. Trump, the people said. Participants in the deals with both women allege that Mr. Trump played a central role.

    A spokeswoman for Mr. Bragg declined to comment. A lawyer for Ms. McDougal didn’t respond to requests for comment. A spokesman for Mr. Trump didn’t immediately comment. Mr. Trump has called the investigation by Mr. Bragg, a Democrat, a “witch hunt” and has said that he didn’t do anything wrong.

    Ms. McDougal signed a contract with the publisher of the National Enquirer in August 2016 that gave the company exclusive rights to her story of an affair with Mr. Trump. American Media Inc., a longtime ally of Mr. Trump, bought Ms. McDougal’s story to take it off the market and prevent her from telling it elsewhere, a tabloid practice known as “catch and kill,” the publisher later acknowledged to federal prosecutors. The Wall Street Journal first revealed the payment to Ms. McDougal in November 2016. Mr. Trump’s lawyers have said he wasn’t aware of the payment to Ms. McDougal until after the deal was done. Mr. Trump denies that he had an affair with Ms. McDougal.

    The grand jury testimony of David Pecker, the former chief executive of American Media, has tied Mr. Trump directly to the payment to Ms. McDougal and to an alleged broader scheme to suppress negative stories about Mr. Trump during his 2016 presidential campaign, according to some of the people familiar with the matter.

    Mr. Pecker in January was among the first witnesses to testify before the grand jury, and he returned for a second appearance earlier this week.

    Mr. Pecker was the last known witness to testify, and it isn’t clear when the grand jury will take up the case again. The grand jury meets on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, but it hears matters besides the Trump investigation. The grand jury is scheduled to take a previously planned hiatus around the Passover and Easter holidays, people familiar with the schedule said. Still, prosecutors control the grand jury, and can change the schedule or call the grand jurors back at any time.

    Mr. Pecker’s testimony could help prosecutors shore up the word of Michael Cohen, a former Trump lawyer who is expected to play a central role as a prosecution witness in any case against the former president. One grand jury witness who testified at the request of Mr. Trump’s team told jurors that Mr. Cohen has offered inconsistent reasons for paying Ms. Daniels.

    Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to federal campaign-finance charges related to the Daniels and McDougal payments. Mr. Cohen told a federal court that Mr. Trump directed him to buy Ms. Daniels’s silence and to coordinate with Mr. Pecker to bottle up Ms. McDougal’s story.

    Federal law bars companies from contributing directly to political candidates. Mr. Cohen admitted in 2018 that by facilitating the McDougal payment he caused a corporation to make an illegal campaign donation. Federal prosecutors decided against charging American Media after its cooperation in the investigation of Mr. Cohen.

    Mr. Pecker met with Mr. Cohen and Mr. Trump in 2015 and offered to help Mr. Trump’s campaign by intercepting negative stories about the candidate, according to a 2018 nonprosecution agreement between American Media and the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan. The following year, Mr. Trump appealed to Mr. Pecker directly to buy Ms. McDougal’s story, the Journal previously reported.

    In addition to Mr. Pecker’s testimony, Mr. Trump’s own words tie him to the deal with Ms. McDougal. Mr. Cohen secretly recorded Mr. Trump discussing the plan to reimburse American Media in September 2016.

    The publisher agreed to transfer the rights to Ms. McDougal’s story to a company controlled by Mr. Cohen. A consultant for Mr. Pecker used a separate shell company to issue a false invoice to Mr. Cohen for advisory services, insulating both American Media and Mr. Trump from the transaction, according to the nonprosecution agreement.

    But in early October 2016, before American Media received the money, Mr. Pecker canceled the deal on the advice of counsel, the Journal previously reported.

    That same month, when Mr. Cohen learned that Ms. Daniels was shopping her account of a sexual encounter with Mr. Trump, Mr. Cohen urged Mr. Pecker to buy the story, as he had with Ms. McDougal’s. This time, however, Mr. Pecker declined. Mr. Cohen then paid Ms. Daniels himself and was later reimbursed by Mr. Trump.


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    The last witness before the grand jury is unknown, but my guess is Allan Weisselburg. Apparently he's ditched his trumpian legal team and has hired his own lawyers, so he's probably flipped rather than spend more time in Riker's.

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    Flabbergasted by all the republicans backing Trump before they even know the charges. Can't they see it's like running into a house fire? This should be one of those occasions when you sit back and chill for a bit.

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    As I understand, New York doesn’t release Mug Shots.

    Leaked within a week????

    Or trump will use it for fundraising.

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    Trump faces about 30 counts in New York grand jury indictment

    Former President Donald Trump is facing about 30 charges in New York City related to document fraud connected to hush money he allegedly paid to cover up affairs, two sources familiar with the matter told NBC News after he was indicted Thursday.

    The exact charges are unknown because the indictment remains under seal until Trump — who is campaigning to reclaim the presidency in 2024 — appears in court for his arraignment. That is expected on Tuesday, though Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg could unveil the charges sooner.

    The case is just one of at least three criminal probes into Trump, who during his single term in office also earned the ignoble distinction of being the only U.S. president to be impeached twice.

    “Although Alvin Bragg is the first prosecutor in the history of our country to indict a former president, he’s likely not going to be the last,” Dave Aronberg, the prosecutor in Palm Beach County, Florida, where Trump lives, said on MSNBC on Friday.

    Trump also faces both federal and state investigations into his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, which have been gaining steam. The federal special counsel is also investigating Trump's role in the discovery of hundreds of documents with classified markings at his Florida home and private club.

    Trump plans to return to New York a week after his arraignment to sit for a deposition in an unrelated civil suit brought by New York state’s attorney general, according to a source with direct knowledge. Officials in that case are seeking $250 million in penalties, alleging that Trump, his real estate company and his three adult children systematically defrauded lenders, tax authorities and others.

    The suit, which came after a yearslong investigation into the Trump Organization, alleges more than 200 instances of fraud over 10 years.

    The New York City criminal case centers on more than a quarter of a million dollars paid ahead of the 2016 election to two women, including adult film star Stormy Daniels, to remain quiet about affairs he allegedly had with them. Prosecutors are expected to say Trump tried to illegally hide the payments.

    The large number of charges most likely stems from prosecutors making separate charges for each payment in question.

    Trump has denied the affair but acknowledged the payments.

    Two sources familiar with the Manhattan grand jury’s work say prosecutors also questioned witnesses about a previous alleged hush money payment to former Playboy playmate Karen McDougal.

    In 2018, longtime former Trump attorney Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to breaking campaign finance laws and admitted to making hush money payments of $130,000 and $150,000 to two women "at the direction of a candidate for federal office" — a clear reference to Trump, though he was not named — "with the purpose of influencing the [2016] election," according to court documents.

    The sums match the amount paid to Daniels and McDougal.

    McDougal had said she had a monthslong affair with Trump not long after he married Melania Trump, which Trump has denied. She was paid through the parent company of the National Enquirer, a Trump-aligned tabloid that purchased exclusive rights to her story, which it never published, in a "catch-and-kill" operation to protect Trump.

    Cohen is now the government’s star witness. Prosecutors are expected to allege that Trump falsified business records to cover up the payments to Daniels and McDougal, which they are expected to say amounted to illegal campaign expenditures.

    Prosecutors are expected to charge Trump with falsifying business records, a crime that gets upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony when the false records are used to cover up another crime, which in this case would be campaign finance violations.

    Trump has said that the payments were a legal expense and that he did nothing wrong, alleging that the prosecution is a political witch hunt.

    “The Judge ‘assigned’ to my Witch Hunt Case, a ‘Case’ that has NEVER BEEN CHARGED BEFORE, HATES ME,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform Friday.

    Trump attorney Joe Tacopina said in an interview on NBC’s “TODAY” show Friday that there is “zero chance” the former president will take a plea deal, insisting Trump expects to be vindicated either before or during a trial.

    “President Trump will not take a plea deal on this case. It’s not gonna happen,” Tacopina said. “There’s no crime. I don’t know if it’s gonna make it to trial because we have substantial legal challenges.”

    Security was tight around the courthouse in lower Manhattan, and the New York City Police Department told its entire uniformed police force to prepare for deployment Friday in case of unrest as some Trump supporters called for protests.

    "There are no credible threats to the city at this time," said the city’s police commissioner, Keechant Sewell, adding that "the NYPD always remains prepared to respond."

    Republicans — including those hoping to defeat Trump in 2024 — rallied behind the former president, vowing to investigate and protest the Manhattan DA for an indictment they say is politically motivated.

    While Trump and his allies claim he is being singled out on charges that are rarely brought by prosecutors, experts note the Manhattan DA regularly brings such cases.

    Still, many legal experts have wondered if felony charges would stick in Trump's case, and the Manhattan DA's office previously decided against charging Trump for that reason. Bragg may have new evidence to strengthen the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Two silly posts in a row. Sometimes googling skills have nothing to do with facts. You really don't have much knowledge of the US legal system.
    Care to elucidate on your disagreement with either post?

    Or are you just going to sit in the corner muttering bollocks?

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    Pence on ruling that he must testify in Jan. 6 probe: ‘I have nothing to hide’

    Former Vice President Pence said he has “nothing to hide” after a federal judge reportedly ruled that he must testify in front of the federal grand jury investigating former President Trump’s actions on the day of the Jan. 6 insurrection.

    “Let me be clear, I have nothing to hide,” Pence said in an interview with Newsmax on Tuesday. “I have a Constitution to uphold. I upheld the Constitution on Jan. 6.”

    Pence has previously fought back a subpoena from special counsel Jack Smith, who is handling two separate federal investigations into Trump, by arguing that the Constitution’s “speech and debate” clause shielded him from having to testify about his officials duties on Jan. 6. Trump had fought to block Pence’s speaking with the grand jury on the grounds of executive privilege.

    A judge ruled that executive privilege could not shield Pence entirely from having to testify, according to a number of reports. The court did however agree in part that Pence would not have to answer questions about his role as president of the Senate, possibly limiting questions into his actions on the day of the Capitol riots.

    But Pence will have to answer questions that address any criminality by Trump, the judge reportedly ruled, striking a blow to the former president’s attempt to keep his former vice president from speaking to investigators about him.

    “I’m pleased that the court accepted our argument and recognized that the Constitution’s provision about speech and debate does apply to the vice president,” Pence said. “The way they sorted that out and the requirements of my testimony going forward are subject of our review right now.”

    When asked if he planned to appeal the ruling, Pence said “we are evaluating the court’s decision.”

    The potential testimony from Pence comes as Smith’s investigation into the former president shows signs of picking up steam. The special counsel has started to approach a number of other high profile witnesses connected to Trump, including his daughter Ivanka Trump, son-in-law Jared Kushner and former chief of staff Mark Meadows.

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    Lanny Davis: New York Trump case may include Karen McDougal payment

    Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen provided Manhattan prosecutors with documentation about a Trump hush-money payment to a second woman who claims to have had an affair with him, Cohen's lawyer, Lanny Davis, told CNN this morning.



    Davis told Axios that — while he can't discuss conversations with the D.A.'s office — he infers "100%" that Karen McDougal — the second woman and a former Playboy model— is part of Bragg's case, whether as part of the charges or the narrative, perhaps showing a pattern of behavior.

    Trump lawyer Joe Tacopina told Dana Bash on CNN's "State of the Union" that he hopes Trump's surrender on Tuesday will be as "painless and classy" as possible.


    • But Tacopina told George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "This Week" that Trump is "gearing up for a battle … He’s a tough guy."


    Previewing arguments we can expect to hear more of, Tacopina said on ABC: "Had Donald Trump not been Donald Trump and it was John Smith, this case never would have been brought."


    • Despite not knowing the charges, the lawyer added: "This case is not even legally sufficient. Factually, it's a joke."
    • Separating himself from Trump's online attacks on the judge in the case, Juan Manuel Merchan, Tacopina said: "I don’t believe the judge is biased. I mean, the president has his own opinion."


    By the numbers: Trump raised more than $5 million since news of his indictment broke late Thursday — over $4 million in the first 24 hours and over $1 million in the second 24 hours, a Trump official told Axios.


    • In announcing the initial $4 million haul, Trump's campaign noted that over 25% of the donations came from first-time donors to him.
    • "This is someone who has run twice for president of the United States," Jason Miller, a Trump campaign senior adviser, said. "There's a whole new group of Trump supporters who are angered by what they see as this political persecution."


    What's next: Asked on ABC whether Trump will hold a press conference after the arraignment, Tacopina said he doesn’t know but added: “He does Trump better than anybody. And he’s not afraid to speak. He’s not afraid [of] confrontation."

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    Lot's of smoke and spin from Trump's attorney and other republicans that worship the orange turd, but this ex-prosecuter breaks it down a bit more factually.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Wanna take a guess how many stoopid Americans will still vote for him even if he's in prison?

    A comedian I watched on Youtube, I forget the name. said.
    He can also hold a rally in prison, most of the January 6th people are also there
    He would be the only candidate in history who's running mate is also his cellmate

    Seriously though.
    I hope I am proven wrong, but I don't think he will see a day in prison.
    There will be motions to dismiss, all sort of legal maneuvering , mean time his idiot supporter paying for it.
    He might even make some money from it.
    Then there will be appeals, I am sure it will go all the way o the supreme court.
    At his age, He will be dead and buried before the prosses is finished.

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    AO doesn't know enough about the constitution to realise there is absolutely nothing in it to stop a convicted felon running.

    In fact it has happened before.

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