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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Does spending on infrastructure need to be so 'justified'?
    (I know what you mean though).
    Problem is the Dems are using reconciliation, which allows them to pass this particular kind of bill with just a simple majority, and cramming almost 2 trillion dollars worth of shit into it with very little having to do with covid. Big dem players getting billions for their state while flipping off anyone who disagrees and fucking the taxpayer.

    But the USA is fubar so whatever. If people are too stupid to see they’re getting played, they deserve the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Problem is the Dems are using reconciliation, which allows them to pass this particular kind of bill with just a simple majority, and cramming almost 2 trillion dollars worth of shit into it with very little having to do with covid. Big dem players getting billions for their state while flipping off anyone who disagrees and fucking the taxpayer.
    So you musta been hella upset when the GQP did exactly the same to pass massive tax-cuts for the wealthy and bloated the fuck outta the deficit then.


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    Translation: Republicans did a thing I do t like, so Democrats get to do a thing in retaliation, even if it’s wrong.

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    Your translator is broken.

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    Republicans mandating people keep more of their own money is wrong, but Democrats mandating that they take taxpayer funds for partisan, self serving reasons, all good.

    ~ Everyone in this thread.

    Rinse and repeat, over and over, for every subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Republicans mandating people keep more of their own money is wrong, but Democrats mandating that they take taxpayer funds for partisan, self serving reasons, all good.
    You need to get your translator fixed.

    Republicans are all for tax-breaks for the wealthy, socializing corporate losses and privatizing the gains, feeding their bases' grievances and resentments to camouflage this, and massive amounts of hypocrisy.

    Fuck the economy, blame the Dems, Dems come in and fix it... Rinse & repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    feeding their bases' grievances and resentments to camouflage this
    Seems like it is working in Slicks case.

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    If the GQP should be credited for anything it is their absolutely spectacular success in convincing turkeys that voting for Xmas is an idea in their best interests (and if they don't then other poor turkeys are gonna come and steal their Xmas, rape and pillage their turkey wimmin-folk and steal all those jobs they don't want to do).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Seems like it is working in Slicks case.
    So you’re gonna sit around and cover for such wasteful spending of your own money?

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    Your hypocrisy is astounding - hilarious, but astounding . . . like repeater on speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    hypocrisy
    "First on NPR: Trump’s CEO at parent agency of Voice of America paid a law firm millions in taxpayer dollars to investigate his own executives."

    A law firm took a no-bid federal contract and “devoted five partners, six associates,” more lawyers, “seven paralegals, three case assistants, 14 other timekeepers, and 11 ‘outsourced attorneys’” in a failed effort to find dirt on people the CEO disliked.


    Trump VOA Appointee Paid Law Firm Millions To Investigate His Own Staff : NPR


    Hypocrisy and culture wars over stupid shit is kinda their bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    So you’re gonna sit around and cover for such wasteful spending of your own money?
    Infrastructure spending is not wasteful spending it is an investment in the nations future. I already debunked the right wing propaganda/talking point about Pelosi's subway in this thread am I going to have to do it again? BART aka Bay Area Rapid Transit carried over 400k people a day across seven counties pre-covid. It is a major light rail network investing in it is not "wasteful spending".

    It was also pointed out by me previously that the expansion project (which is already underway and will be funded one way or another) is not even in Pelosi's congressional district.

    It was just an example of how right wing simpletons swallow talking points without question. Someone tweets out "Pelosi's subway" and the lemmings lap it up. Utterly laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    the lemmings lap it up.
    Forget the exact stat, something like 77% of the population for the Bill / spending (incl. a %50+ majority of Republicans) yet the usual suspects have got the snowflakes crying over Mr. Potato Head being de-gendered (he wasn't) and Dr. Suess being canceled (also wasn't) and being perfectly happy with a system that spends billions on weapons, not enough on schools, and people go bankrupt over healthcare.

    These people are fucking morons.

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    Some good points made antie, but also fair to ask- how much, in contrast, are the Democrats a salve? They're just not as radically right wing as the publicans, that's all. And they are equally as hawkish on the foreign policy front, at least in recent history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    how much, in contrast, are the Democrats a salve?
    It remains to be seen, but I suspect not much given everything else that is going on (Covid, hyper-partisanship etc.).

    The notion that the GOP fuck the economy, the Dems fix it, and then the next GOP guy takes credit is a meme but it also has basis in fact:

    PolitiFact | Here's how the deficit performed under Republican and Democratic presidents, from Reagan to Trump

    I'm not really au fait on economics but I suspect worldwide things will be worse before they are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Problem is the Dems are using reconciliation, which allows them to pass this particular kind of bill with just a simple majority, and cramming almost 2 trillion dollars worth of shit into it with very little having to do with covid. Big dem players getting billions for their state while flipping off anyone who disagrees and fucking the taxpayer.

    But the USA is fubar so whatever. If people are too stupid to see they’re getting played, they deserve the outcome.
    Well they've been getting played big time for the last 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Republicans mandating people keep more of their own money is wrong, but Democrats mandating that they take taxpayer funds for partisan, self serving reasons, all good.

    ~ Everyone in this thread.

    Rinse and repeat, over and over, for every subject.
    How is building bridges, subways, libraries and museums partisan and self serving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Translation: Republicans did a thing I do t like, so Democrats get to do a thing in retaliation, even if it’s wrong.
    You must be using Google translate .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    You must be using Google translate .
    No he just spews talking points from the trumpanzee alternate facts bubble. I am sure he was very disappointed that his orange god did not reassume his throne yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Translation: Republicans did a thing I do t like, so Democrats get to do a thing in retaliation, even if it’s wrong.

    If you are comparing the intended outcome of baldy orange losers "tax cuts" with this bill, you are a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Republicans mandating they keep more of peoples money is wrong
    FTFY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    How is building bridges, subways, libraries and museums partisan and self serving?
    Because it’s not a bipartisan infrastructure bill with all states having their needs met, it’s a partisan “covid” bill with the majority party forcing in unrelated pork for their state and their own re-election.

    This really isn’t hard, unless you dig a foxhole and jump in with whatever chosen party you favor and defend it, come hell or high water and no matter how illogical.

    The defense of this covid bill literally amounts to “Trump lowered taxes and is a bald orange [at][at][at][at] so suck it, Republicans”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    This really isn’t hard, unless you dig a foxhole and jump in with whatever chosen party you favor and defend it, come hell or high water and no matter how illogical.
    You say that like you actually think nobody sees you doing it with the GQP.

    Weird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    The defense of this covid bill literally amounts to “Trump lowered taxes and is a bald orange [at][at][at][at] so suck it, Republicans”


    No, it really doesn't.

    Starting to think you're inputting shit into your translator as well as getting it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Because it’s not a bipartisan infrastructure bill with all states having their needs met
    You shitbirds are the largest recipients of Federal welfare in a big way. We in the rich blue states are tired of carrying you losers.

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    If supporting a women’s right to choose includes the right to abortion then they are supporting abortion why is that so hard for you to understand.
    Tell us more, Mr. Wade.

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