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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    I’m sure you are correct after all the Dems just rejected a bid by the Republicans to transfer funds slated to a Bay Area railroad to mental healthcare for children.
    Do you have a credible link for that? It seems funny that after all the years the GOP has tried to strip giving people including children with preexisting conditions healthcare that you are dumb enough to actually believe that. The GOP couldn't care less about kids or anyone else's healthcare. Once again you are a massive hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Companies cant afford to pay $15 an hour to their workers.
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    Proud to live in a country where everybody is paid what he deserves (and praise the system)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Companies cant afford to pay $15 an hour to their workers.
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    There’s little doubt the large corporations can afford to $15.00 it’s the small businesses struggling to survive that will be decimated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Do you have a credible link for that? It seems funny that after all the years the GOP has tried to strip giving people including children with preexisting conditions healthcare that you are dumb enough to actually believe that. The GOP couldn't care less about kids or anyone else's healthcare. Once again you are a massive hypocrite.
    Democrats Reject GOP Stimulus Amendment To Move $100M+ From Silicon Valley Subway To Children’s Mental Health | The Daily Wire

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    HAHAHAHA Here's Repeater trying to convince us the Republicans give a fuck about health care!


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    More propaganda. Where is the standalone bill for Children's mental health? Republicans won't draft it. It's almost like this was a purely political tactic and Republicans don't really want money going to children's mental health. The motion was to reset the whole process over 0.007% of the total cost. This was not a serious motion, just political grandstanding. Which, of course, is all the Republicans have anymore.

    BTW that is not a credible source. If the GOP are serious about children mental health they can draft a standalone bill. As I said above. They will not do it. Full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    More propaganda. Where is the standalone bill for Children's mental health? Republicans won't draft it. It's almost like this was a purely political tactic and Republicans don't really want money going to children's mental health. The motion was to reset the whole process over 0.007% of the total cost. This was not a serious motion, just political grandstanding. Which, of course, is all the Republicans have anymore.

    BTW that is not a credible source. If the GOP are serious about children mental health they can draft a standalone bill. As I said above. They will not do it. Full of shit.
    Everything that doesn’t come from your liberal thought chamber is propaganda . Probably better stated everything that refutes your posts to you is propaganda. The fact is a proposal to transfer money in the Covid relief bill from Pelosi’s Bart system to children’s mental health,by the Republicans,was shot down by the Democrats.

    Why shouldn’t the Republicans vote against the stand alone bill the money in the Covid relief bill for Bart has nothing to do with Covid relief and could be well used for children’s mental health and there would be no need for a stand alone bill. Let Pelosi bring up her own stand alone bill to fund her Bart system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    HAHAHAHA Here's Repeater trying to convince us the Republicans give a fuck about health care!


    I would never try convincing you of anything you are mostly to thick to even comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    I would never try convincing you of anything you are mostly to thick to even comprehend.
    You are incapable of convincing anyone of anything that describes the Republicans as being humane.

    Primarily because you are too stupid to even come up with a convincing argument.

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    This article proves that you just got sucked into the bullshit zone of right wing propaganda...

    “Nancy Pelosi’s subway.” That’s what Congressional Republicans have christened the project extending BART service through downtown San Jose, which is set to receive an estimated $141 million from the COVID stimulus package the House is expected to pass Friday.

    The South Bay BART extension isn’t even in Pelosi’s district.

    But Republicans have made the connection as they argue Democrats are loading the $1.9 trillion relief package with pork: House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy referred to the project as “Nancy Pelosi’s subway” at a press conference he called to criticize it Friday, and Senate Republicans called it “Nancy Pelosi’s Silicon Valley subway” in a tweet Wednesday.

    Call it the political equivalent of a 49ers TV broadcast that shows the Golden Gate Bridge, when the game is being played in Santa Clara. Zoe Lofgren and Ro Khanna, who represent the South Bay turf where the four new stations will go, aren’t nearly as big of villains to Republicans as the House Speaker.

    The jabs harken back to another stimulus debate, when conservative media falsely claimed that $30 million in a 2009 relief package during the Great Recession was earmarked for protecting “Pelosi’s mouse,” referring to the endangered Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse in San Francisco Bay.

    In a more geographically accurate criticism of the BART funding, a spokesman for Republicans on the Senate Banking Committee told Fox Business, which first reported on the allocation, that the funding was an earmark helping “Big Tech.”

    Republicans have also highlighted local concerns about the rising cost and slipping schedule of the $6.9 billion BART extension, which will run from the newly opened Berryessa Station on the north side of San Jose through downtown and back up to Santa Clara. The extension is the largest infrastructure project in Santa Clara County’s history — the $141 million allocation in the stimulus would represent just 2% of its total cost — and is expected to open by 2030.

    But the BART extension is far from the only project on the list. The package includes money for infrastructure improvements all over the country and gives a total of $30.5 billion to struggling public transportation agencies nationwide.

    Elsewhere in the Bay Area, estimates show the package would provide $47 million to the project electrifying Caltrain service, Metropolitan Transportation Commission spokesman Randy Rentschler said. Other programs to increase BART’s capacity through the Transbay Tube and build Muni’s central subway — ones that actually are in Pelosi’s district — would get $77 million and $23 million, respectively.

    Those projects weren’t hand-picked by Pelosi or anyone else, Rentschler said. Instead, they’re getting the money because they had previously been approved for federal funding, in many cases under the Trump administration.

    Anyone up in arms over the $141 million for the San Jose BART extension should note that the project is slated to receive more than 10 times that much — over $1.7 billion — in federal funding, via a grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation that has been in the works for years. The department’s Federal Transit Administration has already given the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority, which is building the extension, $225 million toward that allocation.

    VTA spokeswoman Bernice Alaniz said the $141 million included in the COVID bill is separate from the Department of Transportation grant, and is “intended to help with the local share for the project,” which may be affected by the uncertain pandemic economy. Three-quarters of the project’s cost is coming from local sources, such as sales taxes and bridge toll hikes that were approved by voters.

    “It’s not as though this project or these projects fell out of thin air,” Rentschler said. The goal, he said, is “to put money into these projects so the projects don’t slow down.”

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02/...elosis-subway/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    This article proves that you just got sucked into the bullshit zone of right wing propaganda...

    “Nancy Pelosi’s subway.” That’s what Congressional Republicans have christened the project extending BART service through downtown San Jose, which is set to receive an estimated $141 million from the COVID stimulus package the House is expected to pass Friday.

    The South Bay BART extension isn’t even in Pelosi’s district.

    But Republicans have made the connection as they argue Democrats are loading the $1.9 trillion relief package with pork: House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy referred to the project as “Nancy Pelosi’s subway” at a press conference he called to criticize it Friday, and Senate Republicans called it “Nancy Pelosi’s Silicon Valley subway” in a tweet Wednesday.

    Call it the political equivalent of a 49ers TV broadcast that shows the Golden Gate Bridge, when the game is being played in Santa Clara. Zoe Lofgren and Ro Khanna, who represent the South Bay turf where the four new stations will go, aren’t nearly as big of villains to Republicans as the House Speaker.

    The jabs harken back to another stimulus debate, when conservative media falsely claimed that $30 million in a 2009 relief package during the Great Recession was earmarked for protecting “Pelosi’s mouse,” referring to the endangered Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse in San Francisco Bay.

    In a more geographically accurate criticism of the BART funding, a spokesman for Republicans on the Senate Banking Committee told Fox Business, which first reported on the allocation, that the funding was an earmark helping “Big Tech.”

    Republicans have also highlighted local concerns about the rising cost and slipping schedule of the $6.9 billion BART extension, which will run from the newly opened Berryessa Station on the north side of San Jose through downtown and back up to Santa Clara. The extension is the largest infrastructure project in Santa Clara County’s history — the $141 million allocation in the stimulus would represent just 2% of its total cost — and is expected to open by 2030.

    But the BART extension is far from the only project on the list. The package includes money for infrastructure improvements all over the country and gives a total of $30.5 billion to struggling public transportation agencies nationwide.

    Elsewhere in the Bay Area, estimates show the package would provide $47 million to the project electrifying Caltrain service, Metropolitan Transportation Commission spokesman Randy Rentschler said. Other programs to increase BART’s capacity through the Transbay Tube and build Muni’s central subway — ones that actually are in Pelosi’s district — would get $77 million and $23 million, respectively.

    Those projects weren’t hand-picked by Pelosi or anyone else, Rentschler said. Instead, they’re getting the money because they had previously been approved for federal funding, in many cases under the Trump administration.

    Anyone up in arms over the $141 million for the San Jose BART extension should note that the project is slated to receive more than 10 times that much — over $1.7 billion — in federal funding, via a grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation that has been in the works for years. The department’s Federal Transit Administration has already given the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority, which is building the extension, $225 million toward that allocation.

    VTA spokeswoman Bernice Alaniz said the $141 million included in the COVID bill is separate from the Department of Transportation grant, and is “intended to help with the local share for the project,” which may be affected by the uncertain pandemic economy. Three-quarters of the project’s cost is coming from local sources, such as sales taxes and bridge toll hikes that were approved by voters.

    “It’s not as though this project or these projects fell out of thin air,” Rentschler said. The goal, he said, is “to put money into these projects so the projects don’t slow down.”

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02/...elosis-subway/

    So what do these projects have to do with COVID relief?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    So what do these projects have to do with COVID relief?
    It is a stimulus bill as I said before. It is providing COVID-19 relief and stimulating the economy at the same time. As was mentioned in the article public transportation agencies across the nation are struggling right now because people are not commuting but working from home. Revenue is down across the board due to COVID and many have been laid off, so they need help that is COVID relief plain and simple.

    It is really pretty simple to understand if you are not buried in the right wing fever swamps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    It is really pretty simple to understand if you are not buried in the right wing fever swamps.
    He is buried in the right wing fever swamp, drinking Kool Aid and crying. As it seems he will be for the next 8 years. 50,000,000 does of vaccine delivered even with no plan to begin with.

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    Apparently, despite a lot of big talk, Republicans AREN'T interested in rebuilding infrastructure after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    It is a stimulus bill as I said before. It is providing COVID-19 relief and stimulating the economy at the same time. As was mentioned in the article public transportation agencies across the nation are struggling right now because people are not commuting but working from home. Revenue is down across the board due to COVID and many have been laid off, so they need help that is COVID relief plain and simple.

    It is really pretty simple to understand if you are not buried in the right wing fever swamps.
    Yes the US does need stimulus in the jobs market so what does your hero Joe do eliminate thousands of jobs with the stroke of his pen go figure eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    so what does your hero Joe do eliminate thousands of jobs with the stroke of his pen go figure eh
    Jobs, Jobs, Jobs - Key to gaining bipartisan support for action on climate change?




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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    you are mostly to thick
    Oh, the irony.


    Has repeater accepted that Trump lost and Biden is HIS president yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You really are an epic level moron.

    Did Joe put thousands out of work by stopping key stone or didn’t he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Oh, the irony.


    Has repeater accepted that Trump lost and Biden is HIS president yet?
    I had no problem accepting the fact that Biden won the election.

    Do you have a problem accepting the fact that not all conservative Republicans are of the conspiracy group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    More Breitbart bullshit. You are an imbecile who swallows the bullshit without question. The stupid orange wanker YOU voted for destroyed the economy and jobs with his ineptitude.

    Did Biden put thousands out of work by stopping the key stone project or not,simple question yes or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Jobs, Jobs, Jobs - Key to gaining bipartisan support for action on climate change?





    Adding those jobs will be great but are these jobs displaced key stone workers can readily walk into and start drawing a paycheck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He eliminated a load of TEMPORARY jobs you fucking moron. Once the pipeline was completed it would be run by a handful of people.

    They lose a few months work and they will be supported by the STIMULUS bill that your greedy Republicans kept blocking.

    And plans to develop renewable energy will create jobs as well.

    Is this the best your tiny senile brain can come up with?
    You might want to ask the displaced workers how they feel about that.

    So you think a one time stimulus check and a bit of unemployment will make up for their paychecks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Adding those jobs will be great but are these jobs displaced key stone workers can readily walk into and start drawing a paycheck?
    They were given a 2 ½ month notice

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    Keystone jobs were only going to be 4-8 months long and the negatives in the long run far out weigh the positives.

    Here are 5 reasons why building the Keystone pipeline is bad for the economy — and workers.

    1. Building the Keystone pipeline and opening up the Tar Sands will negatively impact national and local economies: Burning the recoverable tar sands oil will increase the earth’s temperature by a minimum of 2 degree Celsius, which NYU Law School’s Environmental Law Center estimates could permanently cut the US GDP by 2.5%. At the same time state and local economies are already buckling under the real-time economic effects of our nation’s dependence on fossil fuels. In the past two years, the vast majority of U.S. counties ““ 67 percent ““ were affected by at least one of the eleven $1 billion dollar extreme weather events. Superstorm Sandy alone caused an estimated $80 billion in damage. The drought that affected 80% of US farmland last summer destroyed a quarter of the US corn crop and did at least $20 billion damage to the economy.

    2. The same fossil fuel interests pushing the Keystone pipeline have been cutting, not creating, jobs: Despite generating $546 billion in profits between 2005 and 2010, ExxonMobil, Chevron, Shell, and BP reduced their U.S. workforce by 11,200 employees over that period. In 2010 alone, the top five oil companies slashed their global workforce by 4,400 employees “” the same year executives paid themselves nearly $220 million. But at least those working in the industry as a whole get paid high wages, right? Turns out that 40 percent of U.S oil-industry jobs consist of minimum-wage work at gas stations. Instead of bankrolling an industry that is laying off workers and threatening our economic future, isn’t it time to take the billions in subsidies going to oil companies and invest instead in a sector that both creates jobs and protects the planet?

    3. Unemployment will rise: According to Mark Zandi, the Chief Economist of Moody’s Analytics: “Superstorm Sandy wreaked havoc on the job market in November, slicing an estimated 86,000 jobs from payrolls.”¯ In the wake of Hurricane Irene, the number of workers filing unemployment claims in Vermont went from 731 before Irene to 1,331 two weeks afterwards. Hurricane Katrina wiped out 129,000 jobs in the New Orleans region “” nearly 20 percent. For the U.S. economy as a whole, 2011 cost US taxpayers $52 billion.

    4. Poor and working people will be disproportionately affected: KXL and projects like it result in disproportionately negative impact on already struggling working families. According to a recent report by the Center for American Progress called “Heavy Weather: How Climate Destruction Harms Middle- and Lower-Income Americans, lower-and middle income households are disproportionately affected by the most expensive extreme weather events. Sixteen states were afflicted by five or more extreme weather events in 2011-12. Households in disaster-declared counties in these states earn $48,137, or seven percent below the U.S. median income.

    5. Building the sustainable economy, not the Keystone pipeline, will create far more jobs: Our nation is in desperate need of jobs. Approving the Keystone pipeline locks our nation into a trajectory of guaranteed job loss and threatens the stability of the US economy. Why keep the “job-killing”¯ course, when the alternative-energy path is already out-performing other sectors of the economy. For example, the solar industry continues to be an engine of job growth — creating jobs six times faster than the overall job market. Research by the Solar Foundation shows a 13 percent growth in high-skilled solar jobs spanning installations, sales, marketing, manufacturing and software development — bringing total direct jobs to 119,000 in the sector. And according to the Political Economy Research Institute at the University of Massachusetts”“Amherst, investment in a green infrastructure program would create nearly four times as many jobs as an equal investment in oil and gas.

    A study by Synapse Energy Economics developed a Transition Scenario for the electric power industry based on reducing energy consumption, phasing out high-emission power plants, and building new, lower-emission energy facilities. The study estimated the number of “job years”¯ “” one new worker employed for one year “” that would be created by the Transition Scenario over a decade:


    • 444,000 job-years for construction workers, equivalent to 44,400 construction workers working full time for the entire decade.
    • 90,000 job-years for operations and maintenance workers, equivalent to about 9,000 full time workers employed over the decade.
    • 3.1 million indirect jobs for people designing, manufacturing, and delivering materials and jobs in local economies around the country induced by spending by workers hired in the Transition Scenario.

    Organized labor is right to demand that public policy pay attention to our desperate need for jobs. But the Keystone XL pipeline will only make our jobs crisis worse by making our climate crisis worse. Plus, there are lots of pipelines that need fixing. Construction workers can be put to work rebuilding our crumbling natural gas transmission pipeline system — this will create good union jobs and cut carbon emissions. And these same workers can rebuild our crumbling water infrastructure. If labor is going to fight for jobs, let’s fight for jobs that build the future we want for ourselves and our children, not ones that will destroy that future.
    https://www.labor4sustainability.org...r-the-economy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Do you have a problem accepting the fact that not all conservative Republicans are of the conspiracy group.
    Oh yes, I have a few friends who aren't conspiracy nuts . . . unlike you

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