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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Here are the world leaders who congratulated Joe Biden

    Justin Trudeau
    Boris Johnson
    Emmanuel Macron
    Angela Merkel
    Micheál Martin
    Recep Tayyip Erdogan
    King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud
    Scott Morrison
    Moon Jae-in
    Yoshihide Suga
    Pope Francis
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    And here are those who did not:

    Putin
    Xi
    Kim

    Quite telling, really
    Xi is onboard. Happy ?


    Are you onboard yet ?

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    Trump can do a lot of damage before he leaves office. I'm hoping he ends his days in prison, along with several members of his corrupt family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    She told me they don’t have any tickets yet and are not sure IF it is going to be held because of Covid.
    i was thinking this when you initially posted about going, but didn't want to rain on the.....errr..inaugural parade.
    hope it happens though...for him and you.



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    It ain't over till the electoral college sings.
    do you think you'll be able to explain the electoral college by that time?
    i don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jools View Post
    Trump can do a lot of damage before he leaves office.
    most reports indicate that trump seems focused on continued grifting ATM...but i'm sure his attention will soon turn to high profile pardons and other spectacles.

    whatever he does with regard to policy, biden will be able to reverse a lot of it on day one...and some departments/agencies will slow walk his directives/executive orders...but there can be no doubt that people like stephen miller are plotting and scheming 24hrs/day.

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    Interesting read. Opinion piece in the Moscow Times.



    No Longer 'Ours': With a Biden White House, the Kremlin Is Facing a Tough New Reality


    The problem for Moscow is not so much the deterioration of relations under Biden: it is the readiness of the new administration to minimize these relations.



    No Longer 'Ours': With a Biden White House, the Kremlin Is Facing a Tough New Reality - The Moscow Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    most reports indicate that trump seems focused on continued grifting ATM...but i'm sure his attention will soon turn to high profile pardons and other spectacles.

    whatever he does with regard to policy, biden will be able to reverse a lot of it on day one...and some departments/agencies will slow walk his directives/executive orders...but there can be no doubt that people like stephen miller are plotting and scheming 24hrs/day.

    Been already established that old Joe will reverse the WHO disassociation as well as jumping back on board of the Paris Climate Accords....among other numerous items that were harshly disbanded by The Orange Sociopathic one.

    It's a start in the right direction.
    I believe Team Biden's priority might be the COVID mess [which is currently spiraling out of hand] and engaging a new relief package, as unemployment numbers are historic.


    Yet, expected - some things won't change at all.
    Same as it ever was.
    One Third of Biden's Pentagon Transition Team Hails From Organizations Financed by the Weapons Industry - In These Times

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    ^Another one ,……



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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Interesting read. Opinion piece in the Moscow Times.



    No Longer 'Ours': With a Biden White House, the Kremlin Is Facing a Tough New Reality


    The problem for Moscow is not so much the deterioration of relations under Biden: it is the readiness of the new administration to minimize these relations.



    No Longer 'Ours': With a Biden White House, the Kremlin Is Facing a Tough New Reality - The Moscow Times
    Quote from that article

    Personal chemistry is important, especially for Putin, who prefers an “operationally tactile style” of presidential diplomacy. In the case of Trump this allowed him, since the U.S. president was not “well-read” on key issues on the agenda and overly susceptible to flattery, to unobtrusively influence the position of the American administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post




    do you think you'll be able to explain the electoral college by that time?
    i don't.
    I'm beginning to think I understand it better than you. It's not as if there's been any shortage of explanations/turorials online lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I'm beginning to think
    that's a step in the right direction, sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    that's a step in the right direction, sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    i was thinking this when you initially posted about going, but didn't want to rain on the.....errr..inaugural parade.
    hope it happens though...for him and you.
    When I first posted about the visit I knew it might be a long shot (Biden did say,…….see you at the inauguration). But it will be a historic (once in a lifetime) event (first female VP) and something we both would like to be a part of.

    I do hope like many others the swearing-in will take place. If it doesn’t, so be it. Safety Frist. I’ll just cancel my reservations (with some penalty).: President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration: Date, tickets and everything we know so far - CNET - When Is Joe Biden'''s Inauguration Day? - The New York Times



    Just made dinner reservations (Penn Quarter area) this morning at one of the restaurants we’ll be visiting during our two night stay. Can’t make reservations at the other restaurant (along the DC Wharf) because it is too far out. Maybe next month.
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Just made dinner reservations
    Well you are a brave man. I have gone out once since March and I live in Seattle and I would not even consider flying right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Well you are a brave man. I have gone out once since March and I live in Seattle and I would not even consider flying right now.
    Chickenshit.
    Wear a mask, socially distance as much as possible and don't touch anything you absolutely don't have to.
    But yeah, making reservations for a superspreader event is not too smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jools View Post
    Trump can do a lot of damage before he leaves office. I'm hoping he ends his days in prison, along with several members of his corrupt family.
    Well no, not really, he can't. He doesn't have the house and even if he did sign an EO it can go in the bin on January 20th. And I daresay if he tried to do anything controversial, most agencies would merely pay lip service and drag it out, or it would get buried in the courts.

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    Most of us Americans will be sleeping that much easier this evening………





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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Well you are a brave man. I have gone out once since March and I live in Seattle and I would not even consider flying right now.
    We all have our own level of comfort.

    I do push it a bit at times but will always wear a mask when in public spaces and do my best to keep my distance from people. Difficult to do at times when meeting with some friends/family. But most everyone will follow safe practices.

    About flying. I am going be uncomfortable while on board even if it’s going to be a short flight.

    However as I understand there has been at least one study ( ) that shows flying and covid isn’t a problem: Access Denied
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    With China belatedly congratulating Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on their election victory on Friday, the list of countries still declining to acknowledge Biden's victory is getting very short.

    State of play: Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro, Mexico's Andrés Manuel López Obrador and Russia's Vladimir Putin are among the very few world leaders who say they're waiting for President Trump's legal challenges to play out. North Korea's Kim Jong-un is in a slightly larger group — those who've declined to comment on the results either way.

    How it happened: Congratulatory messages began to flow in almost immediately after U.S. networks called the election for Biden last Saturday.: Nearly the whole world considers Biden president-elect - Axios

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    those who've declined to comment on the results either way.
    Fair enough actually. To much of the world it's just same old same old, until demonstrated different. Which they do not necessarily expect.

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    I'm surprised Duterte is not in that group.

    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    State of play: Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro, Mexico's Andrés Manuel López Obrador and Russia's Vladimir Putin are among the very few world leaders who say they're waiting for President Trump's legal challenges to play out. North Korea's Kim Jong-un is in a slightly larger group — those who've declined to comment on the results either way.

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    North Korea's Kim Jong-un is in a slightly larger group — those who've declined to comment on the results either way.
    How dare he?
    BTW, any record whether Joe (or his boss) congratulated him to his "election"? (But that's not the same, he is not exceptional, is he?)

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    FOK, you twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Fair enough actually. To much of the world it's just same old same old, until demonstrated different. Which they do not necessarily expect.
    Is that the same as "the brasilians, mexicans, chinkies and russians are pissed off"?

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    ^^ Reckon we can add a fair few more to that list- Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Yemen, Syria, Libya, Palestine, Iraq, etc. For many of them, it's a wait and see thing. One thing about this election was that it really wasn't fought on specifics- rather on personality politics and left wing vs right wing bullshit, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Reckon we can add a fair few more to that list- Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Yemen, Syria, Libya, Palestine, Iraq, etc.
    Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel on Sunday acknowledged Joe Biden's victory in the U.S. presidential elections, tweeting that his government recognized "the people of the United States has chosen a new direction".

    "We believe in the possibility of constructive bilateral relations respecting one another's differences," his tweet read, reflecting widespread hopes on the Communist-run island for an improvement in U.S.-Cuban relations under President-elect Biden, without naming him.

    Incumbent U.S. President Donald Trump unraveled much of his predecessor Barack Obama's 2014-2016 detente with Cuba, reverting instead to a decades-old policy of seeking to choke its economy in order to force democratic change.

    The Trump administration tightened restrictions on U.S. travel and remittances to Cuba and sanctioned shipments of Venezuelan oil to the island.

    The administration also made it harder for Cubans to visit their family in Florida by reducing its Havana embassy to skeletal staffing and shutting down the consular section in the wake of mysterious illnesses among its diplomats.

    This has meant Cubans have instead had to travel abroad to get a U.S. visa.

    During the campaign, Biden assured he would promptly reverse policies on Cuba enacted by Trump that "have inflicted harm on the Cuban people and done nothing to advance democracy and human rights."

    And a top Biden foreign policy adviser told Reuters on condition of anonymity last week that the Democrat would "reverse the decisions that are separating families, limitations on family travel and remittances" if he won the White House.

    But the adviser added that while the incoming president wants to "empower" the Cuban people, "we can't turn back the clock to January 2017.": Cuba'''s president acknowledges Biden'''s U.S. election win

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    Seems the sensible thing to do- come out with the requisite diplomatic niceties, and hope for the best! But it is far from clear, at least not to me, what change if any the incoming Biden admin will make to US foreign policy.

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