Thread: President Joe Biden

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

My judgment is debatable.

Your “debatable” judgement vs Lichtman's

I am going to side with Lichtman

Originally Posted by S Landreth

“If the Democrats have any hope of winning in 2024, they have to nominate Joe Biden,” American University professor Allan Lichtman told NotedDC.

By the way how many delegates did that wackjob Yang receive before pulling out?

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Your “debatable” judgement vs Lichtman's

I am going to side with Lichtman



By the way how many delegates did that wackjob Yang receive before pulling out?

I agree that trump would lose 2024. If he runs. or is allowed to run after an indictment.
What I am concerned with is a second term of 82 year who by the time his term is over will be 86.
The average lifespan of a US male is 77.2 years, as such, even now he is well over his self life.
The math don't lie .
Who I supported and why,does not change any of the above facts

Far outside of my knowledge and experience, so I ask.

Is Hillary Clinton really that bad, or is she at least partly the victim of character assasination? I know that the anti Hillary campaign was relentless.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Far outside of my knowledge and experience, so I ask.

Is Hillary Clinton really that bad, or is she at least partly the victim of character assasination? I know that the anti Hillary campaign was relentless.

She was/is not very well liked, and a terrible campaigner IMO and the opinion of many others.
Her "deplorables" comment was a fatal mistake that alienated many.
Director Comey's statement to the press on the FBI's investigation of Secretary Clinton's a week before the election did not help. Everyone knows she was coming int the game with a lot of baggage, but the coronation had occurred eight years ago.
As I said , when Obama won the nomination and wanted the support of the Clinton political machine , i exchange for that support a deal was negotiated where Hillary got a cabinet position in the Obama administration to pad up her CV, and the run after Obama's term. Don't tell me VP Biden did not want to run after the end of Obama's term as most VPs do but changed his mind after trump's term. The slot belonged to Biden but was given to Hillary.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Put some weight behind your continued statement. Biden is too old.

You have an audience of about 5 here at TD on a good day.

I'm sure that there are way more than 5 on TD, who would agree with BB on Biden being too old for another run.

I would say an overwhelming majority

Folks, it’s also now cheaper to generate electricity from wind and solar than it is from coal and oil. Literally cheaper. Not a joke.

I was just — and so we can accommodate that transition. I was in Massachusetts about a month ago on the site of the largest old coal plant in America. Guess what? It cost them too much money. They can’t count. No one is building new coal plants because they can’t rely on it, even if they have all the coal guaranteed for the rest of their existence of the plant. So it’s going to become a wind generation.

And all they’re doing is — it’s going to save them a hell of a lot of money, and they’re using the same transmission line that transmitted the coal-fired electric on. We’re going to be shutting these plants down all across America and having wind and solar.

Originally Posted by helge

I'm sure that there are way more than 5 on TD, who would agree with BB on Biden being too old for another run.

I would say an overwhelming majority

They may be non-American and/or are still a little upset their candidate did not win the nomination and are hoping for a comeback

Originally Posted by S Landreth

They may be non-American and/or are still a little upset their candidate did not win the nomination and are hoping for a comeback

Maybe/yes/ I don't know.

Doesn't change the age and capabilities of Joe Biden though.


I could argue that you must be overly devoted to the democrat party or blind.

But it's your opinion, which I can respect.

^and we go back to the post that brought us where we are today........

Originally Posted by S Landreth

• NotedDC — White House is Biden’s to lose in 2024, analyst says

“If the Democrats have any hope of winning in 2024, they have to nominate Joe Biden,” American University professor Allan Lichtman told NotedDC.

Ok

Peace

Can Biden really win the next election? He did a good job in the last one but, imo, he will be too old for the next, sady. I think he's been a good leader, such a refreshing change to the last halfwit.

But yes, too old . . . sadly.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Can Biden really win the next election? He did a good job in the last one but, imo, he will be too old for the next, sady. I think he's been a good leader, such a refreshing change to the last halfwit.

But yes, too old . . . sadly.

I agree with all that. I can't see enough young people being bothered to vote for such an old dodderer.

Despite the poor attitude and ridiculous posturing of Trump, he still has a shedload of support from dumb Americans. This is very worrying.

Biden may have a useful team around him, but he does lack the gravitas essential in the modern world. He lacks a personality strong enough to call out Trump and his supporters.

Whatever political nous and personal qualities Biden might have, is drowned out by his aging posture. When an obvious fraud like Trump can energize idiot support, there is a problem. I would hate to see the country suffer for it.

Originally Posted by helge

Maybe/yes/I don't know.

First few (see above)……

From three non-Americans with no real skin in the game when the original post clearly states………

Originally Posted by S Landreth

• NotedDC — White House is Biden’s to lose in 2024, analyst says

“If the Democrats have any hope of winning in 2024, they have to nominate Joe Biden,” American University professor Allan Lichtman told NotedDC.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Far outside of my knowledge and experience, so I ask.

Is Hillary Clinton really that bad, or is she at least partly the victim of character assasination? I know that the anti Hillary campaign was relentless.

It was a combination of a lengthy campaign of character assassination coupled with her team's arrogance in assuming she could win states without even bothering to make the effort to campaign in them.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

From three non-Americans with no real skin in the game when the original post clearly states………

“If the Democrats have any hope of winning in 2024, they have to nominate Joe Biden,” American University professor Allan Lichtman told NotedDC.

Indeed, but many of us here have a very good grasp of US politics, it's not innate to citizens of the US . . . as for having 'skin in the game' the outcome of US elections directly and indirectly affects many of us as well.

Lichtman's opinion, because that is what it is, is as valid as anyone else well-read

• ‘Two-minute drill’: Time is running out to break the Pentagon’s nominee logjam, Senate Dems say

Senate Democrats want to finish up confirmations of senior Pentagon nominees who have been stuck in limbo for months — but there may not be enough time to get the job done.

More than a dozen of President Joe Biden’s civilian nominees await action when the Senate returns after the Nov. 8 midterm elections that could swing control of the chamber.

The list includes those who would oversee weapons purchases and industrial policy as the Pentagon and defense contractors are scrambling to build missiles, drones and ammunition to send to Ukraine and replace depleted inventories for the U.S. and NATO allies.

Confirmations of Biden’s Pentagon picks have ground to a halt in recent months amid resistance from some Republicans, and no nominees have been confirmed since July. Once the Senate returns next week, the need to confirm those officials will compete with other priorities regardless of the election’s outcome, including passing defense policy, striking an agreement to fund the government, and confirming the president’s judicial nominees.

Any nominees who aren’t confirmed by the end of this Congress are sent back to the White House to be renominated and start the process over.

The possibility of the Senate flipping to Republicans adds urgency to getting Pentagon nominees confirmed by the end of the year. Senate Armed Services Chair Jack Reed (D-R.I.) said confirming all pending Pentagon nominees “turns on the election.”

“If there’s a Democratic Senate in the next term, then we have a little more flexibility to move off of judges and move to other departments,” Reed said last month at a Council on Foreign Relations event. “If we lose the majority, which is 50-50 at the moment, then I think there will be an all-out push to get as many judges as possible confirmed and that will interfere with the ability to get DoD people in.”

While 43 of Biden’s Pentagon nominees have been confirmed over his first two years in office, 11 picks still await a final vote by the full Senate. Four of those nominees have been waiting for confirmation votes since March.

Originally Posted by panama hat

as for having 'skin in the game' the outcome of US elections directly and indirectly affects many of us as well.

Lichtman's opinion, because that is what it is, is as valid as anyone else well-read

To a certain extent all large economies have an effect, however a trump 2^nd term would be devastating for us here in the US.

Biden’s age makes no difference. What makes the difference is that he’s the only one who can defeat trump. That’s coming from a professional who carries a bit more weight than someone who is well-read on US politics but maybe not on presidential predictions.

I’m still siding with Professor Lichtman for obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

What makes the difference is that he’s the only one who can defeat trump. That’s coming from a professional who carries a bit more weight than someone who is well-read on US politics but maybe not on presidential predictions.

That's just silly.

There are a number of people who the Republicans have yet to character assassinate who could choose to run.

Who expected Obama to win? Clinton didn't.

answer to your question

Professor Lichtman

• Biden calls Israel’s Netanyahu to congratulate him on election

President Biden spoke by phone on Monday with former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is set to return to power in Israel, and congratulated him on his country’s elections, the White House confirmed.

Biden spoke with Netanyahu “to congratulate him on his party’s victory and commend Israel’s free and fair elections,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said.

The president reaffirmed the strength of the bilateral partnership and underscored his unwavering support for Israel’s security, Jean-Pierre said, adding that the White House will be monitoring the government formation process.

“We look forward to continuing to work with the Israeli government on our shared interests and values,” Jean-Pierre said.

Netanyahu teamed up with far-right parties to form a conservative coalition and win the election last week. He beat his main opponent, Prime Minister Yair Lapid, a centrist who conceded on Thursday.

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• Biden acknowledges Dems keeping Congress is ‘a very high expectation’

President Biden acknowledged Monday that Democrats keeping control of Congress is “a very high expectation” amid final midterm predictions that show Republicans with an increased likelihood of taking over the House and Senate.

At two Democratic National Committee virtual receptions the day before the election, Biden said he remained optimistic about the prospect of Democrats keeping control of Congress while making a push for voter turnout.

“One more night to do everything we can to win it and to keep it going. Look, if we’re able to hold on, we’re going to be in incredible shape. Imagine what we can do in a second term if we maintain control. I know that sounds like a very high expectation, but I think — anyway, I’m optimistic,” Biden said.

At another reception on Monday, Biden again warned of the dangers of electing Trump-backed “MAGA Republicans,” calling them “some of the darkest forces” in U.S. history.

“Again, not power for power’s sake but power for the good of the country. You know, I know it’s not easy. We’re up against some of the darkest forces we’ve ever seen in our history. These MAGA Republicans are a different breed of cat. This is not your father’s Republican Party. It’s a different deal,” he said.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is set to return to power in Israel

Sad day.

Biden: My intention is to run in 2024

Originally Posted by S Landreth

answer to your question

Professor Lichtman

I mentioned Clinton because I was talking about the primary.

Joe Biden moves to bury the hatchet with GOP

President Biden on Thursday extended a small olive branch to Republicans after condemning a large swath of the GOP as “ultra-MAGA” extremists and casting the pivotal midterms as a battle for the “soul of the nation.”

In an address to Democratic National Committee organizers in Washington, Mr. Biden conceded that America’s democracy remains intact even as Republicans glide toward probable control of the House.

“It was the first national election since Jan. 6, and there were a lot of concerns about whether democracy would meet the test,” he said. “It did. It did.”

He thanked “all of these mainstream Republicans” who made it possible. “They fought like we usually fight, and we accepted it. Everybody accepted it,” he said.

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That was from the Washington Times

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